M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#11321 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:53 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:04 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:36 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:06 pm


I want you to comment why, given that very few people scumread kgray and most people have almost entirely written off Sabi as scum, you do not feel any compulsion to correct town's path to the right destination.

I don´t really understand what you mean with correct town´s path, but if you meant that I should be pushing hard to get them killed I don´t have much to say. I am not good at pushing cases and I don´t have any solid evidence. Bunny have done a lot better job on pushing Sabi then me. I know I won´t last long and just want to point what I am seeing/feeling. The other option is we are wrong on Chaqa or Worcej/Tom and that´s why I want the Oracle on Bozo so we can be 100% sure on something.


I want you to comment how you perceive the worlds where either the scum is extremely comfortable or desperate, who such signs might point to, and how that matches your current assessment of the last scums being Sabi and kgray.

If scum is too confortable there is some scum between the clears, in this case the Kray/Sabi is just wrong and I think we will probably lose unless Oracle saves us. If they are desperate probably Kgray is either GF or is trying to shake things to survive until the end. And it´s working, no one is considering her to a DK.

I want you to comment on why you even need this prompt at all, when previously you were more than willing to provide such commentary unprovoked.

I have been completelly open on my comments, I am mostly a lot of pages behing each time I acess webdip, so I spent most of the time I have catching up and eventually commenting. I have always been this way and I don´t think you are making an honest representation here, which gives me pause as I think you are town.

Do you think we're doing the right thing, killing Vecna? Why or why not? What do you think each kill, starting from bona, might've been intended to achieve? Do you doubt any of our claimants? How do you feel about ghug's fake claim?

I think Ghug tried to gather a NK or reactions, so I don´t read much on his fake claim. I believe on the claims, scum have to be really lucky to guess Jasnah as cop and having two scum to cc the doc with Joat and Oracle alive is such a bad play I don´t see it happening. So, I guess if they were that lucky they will win (this is the confortable option).
Like I said I think it´s Kray and Sabi, but killing Vecna isn´t a bad option as killing me or Ghug aren´t also bad options. My ideal word would have Vecna x Sabi or me/Ghug x Gray as the wagons.

Do you think we were right about Jamiet?
I don´t think Jamiet was scum. I voted him to save your ass and please don´t make me regret this.

What's on your mind?
I think I have already said whas´t on my mind on this post and the other that I made before. At this point I am playing in a lazy/relaxed way just waiting the inevitable.
Hmmmm, -maybe- Rdrivera isnt scum after all.

maybe
What makes you say this? Nothing about what Rivera said seemed that towny to me.
Because you are scum.

And you are dodging his question about wanting to have Sabi alive at possible milo/kilo.
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#11322 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:55 pm

Honestly Chaqa if Jasnah's not town you're getting my LVP for sure
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#11323 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:57 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:26 pm
I feel like the Oracle has to be in the group of Rivera, Ghug, Doom, and I know Ghug will be too damn stubborn to ever claim because he thinks it's lame, even if it hurts his team.

I wasn't just pushing people to claim Oracle for no reason. The Oracle has to be in the PoE and not claiming at this point is just anti-town.
I already hard claimed VT at least two times. And I agree with you.
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#11324 Post by kgray » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:58 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:53 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:04 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:36 pm


Hmmmm, -maybe- Rdrivera isnt scum after all.

maybe
What makes you say this? Nothing about what Rivera said seemed that towny to me.
Because you are scum.

And you are dodging his question about wanting to have Sabi alive at possible milo/kilo.
Vecna's question? About Sabi? I did not see that.

I am ignoring some of what Bunny says. Is that what you mean?

Obviously killing scum is better than killing town. So I don't think it's better to kill off townies that people are accusing of being 'unhelpful' or whatever than to kill off scum. And I don't think Sabi is scum, so I don't want to kill them off. Pretty simple stuff.
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#11325 Post by Chaqa » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:58 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:55 pm
Honestly Chaqa if Jasnah's not town you're getting my LVP for sure
Fuck you man

Go back and reread Day 1, I was not wrong about jasnah and flipping her early and you all simped for no reason and outed me and nearly outed worcej
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#11326 Post by ghug » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:59 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:52 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:48 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:21 pm


I caught Tom and I called our Bozo basically the same time Bona did.

What have you done for town all game besides be a distraction?
Wow, imagine being a literal cop and catching the guy we were going to vote out anyway. Round of applause everyone, phenomenal performance
Imagine being town and outing the Cop Day 1 trying to save jasnah
Imagine being cop and advocating killing someone for fake reasons day one so you can get a scan off.
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#11327 Post by kgray » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:00 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:58 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:55 pm
Honestly Chaqa if Jasnah's not town you're getting my LVP for sure
Fuck you man

Go back and reread Day 1, I was not wrong about jasnah and flipping her early and you all simped for no reason and outed me and nearly outed worcej
Does town!ghug ever go after you early? I feel like that's something ghug does as scum but I'm only thinking of 2 games (where he was scum) so idk if that's valid.
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#11328 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:01 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:37 pm
I kinda want to help Chaqa make snowy a wagon but also Rivera voting for Sabi really makes me feel like Rivera is the better option.
I feel this so forced. How many times have you seen me to push for wagoni g people I think is a liability for town.

You even said Sabi is an easy miskill (which I don't agree considering how many people are defending them) later but want to keep they around. The easy miskill at this point is me, do you see anyone defending me?
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#11329 Post by snowy801 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:01 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:58 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:55 pm
Honestly Chaqa if Jasnah's not town you're getting my LVP for sure
Fuck you man

Go back and reread Day 1, I was not wrong about jasnah and flipping her early and you all simped for no reason and outed me and nearly outed worcej
No fuck you

You keep pretending like your almost flipping day 1 was some inherent flaw in town play when you were playing like literal shit and being called out for it

And then you proceeded to play like garbage for the proceeding actual 2 weeks without pause, spending what bare minimum effort you deigned to expend on this game calling other people shit without a modicum of self awareness

Like honestly I have never once seen a worse townclear in my life and I completely sympathize with everyone who says to vote you out day 1
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#11330 Post by ghug » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:02 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:54 pm
Also. I wanted to push jasnah out so we’d have no chance of revealing any PRs today and let me have a quiet day or two to scan people.
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 pm
Durga wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:55 pm
Yuck well anyone wanna do worcej?
##Vote worcej
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 pm
No point flipping jasnah now
#throwback
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#11331 Post by Chaqa » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:02 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:59 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:52 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:48 pm


Wow, imagine being a literal cop and catching the guy we were going to vote out anyway. Round of applause everyone, phenomenal performance
Imagine being town and outing the Cop Day 1 trying to save jasnah
Imagine being cop and advocating killing someone for fake reasons day one so you can get a scan off.
That is not what happened.
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#11332 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:02 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:20 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:41 pm
So I've gone from actually suspecting Snowy, to pretending to suspect Snowy, back to actually suspecting Snowy. It's a funny life sometimes.

Sabi, if you're Oracle, you should claim now.

In the meantime ##Vote Sabi
I really don't think it's Sabi and I don't think we should encourage their wagon because they're an easy target for scum.
easy target for scum means vca is useable, especially if we keep this in mind throughout

##vote sabi
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#11333 Post by Chaqa » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:04 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:02 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:54 pm
Also. I wanted to push jasnah out so we’d have no chance of revealing any PRs today and let me have a quiet day or two to scan people.
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 pm
Durga wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:55 pm
Yuck well anyone wanna do worcej?
##Vote worcej
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 pm
No point flipping jasnah now
#throwback
For all the talk of NuAnCe you sure do love to miss the nuance when it’s me.

I can want to push someone for being actively involved in an fake claim as well as to prevent any PRs from being outed. It all meshes pretty well.
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#11334 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:07 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:37 pm
@bona find another scumbo please
time to revisit the meta post 8-)
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#11335 Post by kgray » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:07 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:01 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:37 pm
I kinda want to help Chaqa make snowy a wagon but also Rivera voting for Sabi really makes me feel like Rivera is the better option.
I feel this so forced. How many times have you seen me to push for wagoni g people I think is a liability for town.

You even said Sabi is an easy miskill (which I don't agree considering how many people are defending them) later but want to keep they around. The easy miskill at this point is me, do you see anyone defending me?
Yeah I have seen you do that. At least once you were 3P, so mostly interested in not dying, so that doesn't exactly give you huge townie points. But that wasn't even what I was implying about your vote - you've said you think Sabi is scum, but now you are saying it's just because they're a liability?

I think Sabi is an easy target for scum, and I didn't say anything about them being setup for a miskill later in the game. I'm talking about now.

And it's definitely occurred to me that you could be the easy miskill. But I think Sabi is more likely to be town than you, and it's harder to see most other people as scum than you too.
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#11336 Post by Chaqa » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:07 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:58 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:55 pm
Honestly Chaqa if Jasnah's not town you're getting my LVP for sure
Fuck you man

Go back and reread Day 1, I was not wrong about jasnah and flipping her early and you all simped for no reason and outed me and nearly outed worcej
No fuck you

You keep pretending like your almost flipping day 1 was some inherent flaw in town play when you were playing like literal shit and being called out for it

And then you proceeded to play like garbage for the proceeding actual 2 weeks without pause, spending what bare minimum effort you deigned to expend on this game calling other people shit without a modicum of self awareness

Like honestly I have never once seen a worse townclear in my life and I completely sympathize with everyone who says to vote you out day 1
People were offering up dozens of reasons why I was scum and had to be scum and all this dumb stuff.

We had someone fakeclaiming a PR in a no reveal game, voting jasnah out was the most logical play and everyone acting like it wasn’t is deluding themselves.

And all those reasons I “had to be scum” are not true since, you know, town.
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#11337 Post by kgray » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:08 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:01 pm
Like honestly I have never once seen a worse townclear in my life and I completely sympathize with everyone who says to vote you out day 1
idk I think this is being unfair to Bunny
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#11338 Post by kgray » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:09 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:02 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:20 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:41 pm
So I've gone from actually suspecting Snowy, to pretending to suspect Snowy, back to actually suspecting Snowy. It's a funny life sometimes.

Sabi, if you're Oracle, you should claim now.

In the meantime ##Vote Sabi
I really don't think it's Sabi and I don't think we should encourage their wagon because they're an easy target for scum.
easy target for scum means vca is useable, especially if we keep this in mind throughout

##vote sabi
Sorry you just want to kill them so we get better VCA later? Do you think they're scum?
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#11339 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:09 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:47 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:18 pm
OK, a thought about when (and if) we voluntarily kill the oracle for information:

We still have (probably) at least 4 miskills, maybe 5 (I think worst case is 3 if bozo was doctor). The longer we delay, the less information we need. For example:

If I die, no serious need to oracle Jasnah.

If worcej dies, no need to oracle bozo (except if curious about him being GF for non-guilty scans)

Etc. Etc.

So, I suggest we continue delaying any oracle reveal/death for a while longer to force the scum team to EITHER show us stuff by their choices, OR continue not revealing at which point we can oracle what we need.
scum will never kills the players you list for that reason
That’s their loss then…

But we should delay the choice and put it to them.

In bridge we’d call this a squeeze. Whatever they choose will end up harming them because we get to choose 2nd. If they leave our clears, we can afford an Oracle “miskill” to clear it up for us. If they don’t. We don’t need to kill the Oracle and can just have them as a clear.
does town have the collective willpower to not start voting them out?
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#11340 Post by Chaqa » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:09 pm

This game is exhausting
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