M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#10061 Post by snowy801 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:56 pm

President Eden wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:55 am
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:51 am
Given recent revelations I feel like I should think twice about Eden's rising desperation

I guess I'll find some time tomorrow
To the extent that I might be described as "desperate" (I assume in reference to the Cop) it is only because I think Chaqa made some, to put it gently, extremely performative comments about his time in the Discord server -- the most charitable interpretation of what he said that actually lines up with reality is that he was genuinely frustrated with this game and he was concerned that it might have flared up elsewhere, though the way he put it was much more aggressive and bad faith than that -- and I would rather believe the performativeness was a mafia ploy to get me off his case instead of my teammate deciding that it was better to weaponize our personal project, of which I am quite proud (and I'm sure he is as well), to get me to shut up than genuinely engage with me on the level. I laughed at it at first because I thought it was flagrant but well-designed mafia acting that no one else would be able to see through (except Bona maybe), but as I've started to accept that he's actually town I'm just pissed off about it.

Logically it's quite obvious that short of Vecna cc'ing (and having a really strong cover story for it, I don't see how Vecna could credibly cc here) Chaqa is just the Cop. Maybe it should have been obvious earlier. But the way you handle that isn't to guilt trip and shame your teammates into not asking questions. It's a team game, and if you want the egos to be set aside and work as a team, you don't fucking dredge up personal matters to get an in-game edge.
snowy801 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:46 am
Maybe it's just me but I'm pretty depressed at the probability that Chaqa actually plays cop like this. HB saying he's taking a break is one thing

I guess good job with the scan I guess
I'm annoyed with the needless pettiness and vindictiveness of his play, but I do think he's right that the criticism of his mechanical play is unfair. You can't really be dealt a worse hand as a Cop than being forced to claim Day 1 with a factional roleblock and no flips, and the mafia's... unorthodox night actions haven't really helped (until last night anyway). Once he claims to keep from dying Day 1 there's not a lot he can really do with the role in this setup. Getting an inno and a guilty when you've spent basically the whole game in roleblock lockdown is a solid outing for a Cop.
Well no I'm not questioning the mechanics of it all (I haven't been a PR since I got back (or even at all maybe) so I don't know how hard it is to not just be wagoned on D1)

It's that worcej could obvtown given half an hour and a boiling unfettered anger management issue. Chaqa had near 2 weeks and did what, been snide at the fact that he acted scummy d1 because he didn't know how to hide that he was a PR

This is what happens when you play this game for too long I think, you lose perspective entirely.

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#10062 Post by snowy801 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:04 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:32 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:43 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:41 am


Welcome to middle age...

But I usually get up around 5 for work.
eesh
It’ll happen to you…

It’ll happen to you…

You won’t sleep the night

But naps will make right

It’ll happen to you…
Scariest thing I ever read in my life

(it's already happening send help)

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#10063 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:05 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:24 pm
They were willing to risk worcej getting a Docsave off night 2 to deny Chaqa a scan, but decided to let him have one for the lulz tonight? Okay lol
Definitely a weird flex by the scum team.

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#10064 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:05 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:04 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:32 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:43 am


eesh
It’ll happen to you…

It’ll happen to you…

You won’t sleep the night

But naps will make right

It’ll happen to you…
Scariest thing I ever read in my life

(it's already happening send help)
Don't worry, I'm middle age and I hate myself when my alarm goes off at 5:50 AM

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#10065 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:06 pm

I don't think I was being being scummy Day 1. I was pushing to DK Jasnah because I was sure she was fake-claiming Miller. Seven other people were also voting for jasnah, but the rest of ya'll got it stuck in your head I was scum for pushing it.

If that situation came up again I would absolutely push for jasnah to be voted out again because it was logically the correct thing to do.

re:Oracle

Tom is an OK choice, obviously.

Bozo should stay in the mix if worcej or Bona doesn't die to a NK soon-ish.

Jasnah should be the choice if I die to a NK and one of Bona or worcej does.

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#10066 Post by DemonRHK » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:07 pm

Completely Fallible Human Yet GM Vote Count Day Five The First
(Through post 10065)

om Bombadil(10) - Chaqa*, TheFlyingBoat, ghug, Bonatogether, Durga*, President Eden, Doom427, rdrivera2005, snowy801*, worcej*
Chaqa(1) - Tom Bombadil
Vecna(1) - BunnyGo

Currently, TOM BOMBADIL is set to be killed.

31 Hours remain in Day 5.

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#10067 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:08 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:29 pm
Hi all, can someone explain the significance and theories behind flum being brutally murdered.

Also pressing F for Flum 😔

He was a real one.

Also its sus that Chaqa is dipping out for the rest of the day till EOD if he is the supposed cop. Like why would you on purpose dip out (unless something came up in the real world).
If Chaqa is cop, he was the d0 scan.

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#10068 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:08 pm

Snowy, on Day 2 you cast the tying vote between Bozo and Tom.

Did you ever explain why you cast this vote?

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#10069 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:09 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:30 pm
One more post but like

What more do you guys want from me?

I got outed by you all chuckleheads on Day 1.

Then I've spent four fucking day phases justifying my existence to Eden's inquisition, and now I get a guilty because either mafia are incompetent (obviously not since Bozo and Tom are on the team) or they think letting me get a scan off is likely to get me killed.

Judging by Eden and Durga's votes they aren't far off.

I demand to stop having myself be shit on because scum is playing poorly and town outed me on Day 1. No one has CC'd. No one will CC. No one CAN CC. I'm the fucking cop and Tom is guilty.
You know, I'm at the point that if Chaqa is actually scum in this game that I'll never, ever, EVER believe him when he posts like this in future games.

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#10070 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:10 pm

That and also I totally get Chaqa's frustration.

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#10071 Post by snowy801 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:14 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:08 pm
Snowy, on Day 2 you cast the tying vote between Bozo and Tom.

Did you ever explain why you cast this vote?
I didn't know it would tie and worcej really didn't leave much time to respond

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#10072 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:16 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:14 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:08 pm
Snowy, on Day 2 you cast the tying vote between Bozo and Tom.

Did you ever explain why you cast this vote?
I didn't know it would tie and worcej really didn't leave much time to respond
That's fair. It was hectic.

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#10073 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:18 pm

worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:09 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:30 pm
One more post but like

What more do you guys want from me?

I got outed by you all chuckleheads on Day 1.

Then I've spent four fucking day phases justifying my existence to Eden's inquisition, and now I get a guilty because either mafia are incompetent (obviously not since Bozo and Tom are on the team) or they think letting me get a scan off is likely to get me killed.

Judging by Eden and Durga's votes they aren't far off.

I demand to stop having myself be shit on because scum is playing poorly and town outed me on Day 1. No one has CC'd. No one will CC. No one CAN CC. I'm the fucking cop and Tom is guilty.
You know, I'm at the point that if Chaqa is actually scum in this game that I'll never, ever, EVER believe him when he posts like this in future games.
The problem is that it is totally within my scum range to play this way. I've kinda put myself up in a weird position where any behavior is possible as any alignment.

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#10074 Post by snowy801 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:20 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:18 pm
worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:09 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:30 pm
One more post but like

What more do you guys want from me?

I got outed by you all chuckleheads on Day 1.

Then I've spent four fucking day phases justifying my existence to Eden's inquisition, and now I get a guilty because either mafia are incompetent (obviously not since Bozo and Tom are on the team) or they think letting me get a scan off is likely to get me killed.

Judging by Eden and Durga's votes they aren't far off.

I demand to stop having myself be shit on because scum is playing poorly and town outed me on Day 1. No one has CC'd. No one will CC. No one CAN CC. I'm the fucking cop and Tom is guilty.
You know, I'm at the point that if Chaqa is actually scum in this game that I'll never, ever, EVER believe him when he posts like this in future games.
The problem is that it is totally within my scum range to play this way. I've kinda put myself up in a weird position where any behavior is possible as any alignment.
Just be like everyone else and start lurking every time you roll scum

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#10075 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:24 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:20 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:18 pm
worcej wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:09 pm
You know, I'm at the point that if Chaqa is actually scum in this game that I'll never, ever, EVER believe him when he posts like this in future games.
The problem is that it is totally within my scum range to play this way. I've kinda put myself up in a weird position where any behavior is possible as any alignment.
Just be like everyone else and start lurking every time you roll scum
lol you obviously weren't around for the heyday of me being the prime example of a lurker regardless of alignment

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#10076 Post by Vecna » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:30 pm

whatd I miss, besides you guys killing jamiet for some reason

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#10077 Post by worcej » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:32 pm

kgray wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:35 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:33 pm
Durga wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:32 pm
i'm voting you because you refused to engage with the thread after dropping information and then claimed you were going to play some stupid video game for two days instead.
because the immediate reaction to me catching our second (or third) mafia is everyone disbelieving that I'm Cop for the millionth time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWJ-JgVS7Q
You cannot seriously be questioning why we would be suspicious that scum let you get a scan off :?
Well... I can honestly actually rationalize this.

My pool of targets is rather small, given that obviously kills are going to come from 'clears'.

If scum's GF is still alive, the pool of scan targets to hit a scum was less likely than me guessing right.

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#10078 Post by snowy801 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:36 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:30 pm
whatd I miss, besides you guys killing jamiet for some reason
Apparently ghug is balding and developing a beer gut

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#10079 Post by Chaqa » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:39 pm

oh yeah I forgot you guys killed Jamie.

He's probably the best Oracle target so far

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#10080 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:39 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:06 pm
I don't think I was being being scummy Day 1. I was pushing to DK Jasnah because I was sure she was fake-claiming Miller. Seven other people were also voting for jasnah, but the rest of ya'll got it stuck in your head I was scum for pushing it.

If that situation came up again I would absolutely push for jasnah to be voted out again because it was logically the correct thing to do.

re:Oracle

Tom is an OK choice, obviously.

Bozo should stay in the mix if worcej or Bona doesn't die to a NK soon-ish.

Jasnah should be the choice if I die to a NK and one of Bona or worcej does.
I think this is terrible advice for the oracle.

Why do we need to scan Tom at all?

Doesn't oracling jasnah clear both you and me? (from 95+% to 100%)

Do you think Bona could be GF? Otherwise...where's the counter claim to TFB?

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