M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#9641 Post by ghug » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:27 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:25 am
ghug wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:02 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:59 am
I don't understand that at all. I think if snowy was around they would have voted to save themselves as either alignment.

The only thing I actually find suspicious about snowy is their statment about secretly hoping to die and not self voting for hypocritical reasons. That seemed maybe a little forced and fake.
He was around, though.
Oh. I guess I find that towny then? I understand whoever saying that if snowy was scum they might feel like they would inevitably die and thus not care as much if it happened this turn, but I don't really buy that with an oracle still in play. Even if scum snowy thinks they are doomed, I think they would want to delay it as much as possible so that they do not become an oracle target.

So I would lean town on that action I guess.
My position as a candidate in the POE pool is telling me that people are growing overconfident and complacent, and I'm ready to fight to save myself because it's going to be necessary to prevent town from miskilling too many of us. I'm surprised that you wouldn't reach the same conclusion in the same position.
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#9642 Post by Chaqa » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:29 am

I want to vote out Rivera and Snowy first before any of Ghug/Kgray/Tom.
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#9643 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:36 am

ghug - maybe defended is a poor word choice. But you were clearly wrong about bozo and came off his wagon at a suspicious time. We've gone through several instances where I've pointed out that I think you are unlikely to have conviction around the arguments you are making. Admittedly, the bozo defense is likely because I'm going off of memory of the day rather than going back and rereading extensively.

I don't think I'm being lazy. Sure its not a hot take, but I do think bussing is likely *less* common in this game. I don't find it super likely multiple scum bussed bozo to death D2. So from a numbers standpoint there is likely at least one scum amongst the non-clears and non bozo pushers. I'll take probability over some meta nonsense all day.

WIth regards to rdr - pretty much agree with you here. You and rdr have equally poor voting records with respect to our scum info. You have been much more active and have done things I have found suspicious. I barely know anything rdr has said, so I don't really find it suspicious [albeit I hate his last post about being ok with dying, so there is that]
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#9644 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:39 am

ghug wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:27 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:25 am
ghug wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:02 am


He was around, though.
Oh. I guess I find that towny then? I understand whoever saying that if snowy was scum they might feel like they would inevitably die and thus not care as much if it happened this turn, but I don't really buy that with an oracle still in play. Even if scum snowy thinks they are doomed, I think they would want to delay it as much as possible so that they do not become an oracle target.

So I would lean town on that action I guess.
My position as a candidate in the POE pool is telling me that people are growing overconfident and complacent, and I'm ready to fight to save myself because it's going to be necessary to prevent town from miskilling too many of us. I'm surprised that you wouldn't reach the same conclusion in the same position.
You are implying that snowy would be more frustrated and more likely to fight to stay alive as town than scum here?
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#9645 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:43 am

ghug - what do you make of Sabi trying to tie the vote?
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#9646 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:44 am

ghug wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:25 am
BunnyGo wrote:
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ghug wrote:
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You're going to fresh-bake a boule for breakfast tomorrow?
I did twice this past week...it's getting cold here, and I like bread.
I've been doing baguettes the past couple weeks. Don't quite have them down yet, but they've progressed to pretty good.
Baguettes are finicky. I really like this recipe. But I've never got the final shaping/cutting to a happy place.
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#9647 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:46 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:29 am
I want to vote out Rivera and Snowy first before any of Ghug/Kgray/Tom.
Swap rivera and ghug and I'm with you.
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#9648 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:48 am

Bunny - Did EOD change your view of snowy at all?
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#9649 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:51 am

BesharamSabi wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:11 pm
My attempt for a no kill failed 😔 oh whale can't wait for this incident to be used for my scum read later by my two soul mates,,,, worcej and Bunny 😍
I mean... no killing is incredibly scummy at this point...
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#9650 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:52 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:12 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:11 pm
My attempt for a no kill failed 😔 oh whale can't wait for this incident to be used for my scum read later by my two soul mates,,,, worcej and Bunny 😍
I get that you don't really want to be playing anymore, but please don't try to do things that are harmful to town in the hope that we'll kill you.
This.

Just sub out if you don't want to play. And I mean this with no spite or negative tone FWIW.
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#9651 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:52 am

ghug wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:13 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:12 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:11 pm
My attempt for a no kill failed 😔 oh whale can't wait for this incident to be used for my scum read later by my two soul mates,,,, worcej and Bunny 😍
I get that you don't really want to be playing anymore, but please don't try to do things that are harmful to town in the hope that we'll kill you.
Also pick better soulmates.
Also this...
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#9652 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:53 am

BesharamSabi wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:15 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:12 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:11 pm
My attempt for a no kill failed 😔 oh whale can't wait for this incident to be used for my scum read later by my two soul mates,,,, worcej and Bunny 😍
I get that you don't really want to be playing anymore, but please don't try to do things that are harmful to town in the hope that we'll kill you.
No it was because I don't think either wagons were legit. Like none of the snow is confirm scum it jamie is confirm scum sounded solid. That's why I was like not voting. I am not trying to harm the town, I just didn't believe in the wagons. Not solid like previous wagons.
Intentionally tying and removing the town's ability to process a kill is harmful to town at this point.
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#9653 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:55 am

Fluminator wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:25 pm
It's going to be hard to not have Sabi as a scum pretending to be clueless as a possibility in the back of my mind now.
Maybe you should've listened to me 2 phases ago?
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#9654 Post by Tom Bombadil » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:56 am

I just reread fisch and have no idea why the were the NK. I suppose scum could be hunting for JOAT, but I don't see anything there.

The only thing that sticks out to me is that fisch did seem to have a fairly constant scumread of Eden - so there could be something there to get rid of a potential Eden voter. Especially since an Eden wagon was somewhat likely and fisch kinda just followed other peoples votes.

(but I don't even really buy this argument all that much)
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#9655 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:56 am

BesharamSabi wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:30 pm
I really am not pretending or acting or whatever being clueless. I really am not used to this format and this is quite literally nothing like popcorn or in person mafia so I apologize for not being that aware of stuff.

If I was scum why would I preface my clueless post as ohey this is going to be evidence of my scum read later? Just saying.
Scum!Sabi, if you're scum, has been playing up the 'idk what's going on' for several phases.
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#9656 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:57 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:31 pm
We should just yeet snowy tomorrow anyway
Why are we moving on from ghug?
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#9657 Post by BunnyGo » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:57 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:48 am
Bunny - Did EOD change your view of snowy at all?
It should...but I haven't processed it yet.

I'm really stumped on his play. I can get not squirming under pressure as either alignment. But I don't get not ever trying/pushing/helping. I don't get not trying to vote jamie at the end.

I think I have a decent model of who snowy is, but I don't understand why he'd just do nothing. I'll have to think more about it.
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#9658 Post by worcej » Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:00 am

Durga wrote:
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With Jamie gone how am I going to laugh in this game now
I have all the confidence in the world we'll keep you entertained.
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#9659 Post by snowy801 » Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:01 am

To give more information for you people I guess when I last checked the votes it was like 7-4-4 and I wrote most of that post in the bathroom
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#9660 Post by ghug » Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:10 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:36 am
ghug - maybe defended is a poor word choice. But you were clearly wrong about bozo and came off his wagon at a suspicious time. We've gone through several instances where I've pointed out that I think you are unlikely to have conviction around the arguments you are making. Admittedly, the bozo defense is likely because I'm going off of memory of the day rather than going back and rereading extensively.

I don't think I'm being lazy. Sure its not a hot take, but I do think bussing is likely *less* common in this game. I don't find it super likely multiple scum bussed bozo to death D2. So from a numbers standpoint there is likely at least one scum amongst the non-clears and non bozo pushers. I'll take probability over some meta nonsense all day.

WIth regards to rdr - pretty much agree with you here. You and rdr have equally poor voting records with respect to our scum info. You have been much more active and have done things I have found suspicious. I barely know anything rdr has said, so I don't really find it suspicious [albeit I hate his last post about being ok with dying, so there is that]
I'm out and about, so you don't get a full response here, but the fact that you think I voted for bozo for a time is itself indicative that you're not thinking very deeply about this.

Has your read on jasnah changed, or your read on her with respect to me, or do you just not feel the need to relitigate?
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