M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Durga]

Anyway I might town read kgray now

[BunnyGo]

Regardless, it doesnt matter.

If all the PR's are real, this type of approach is likely also the only way to a win for scum.

Shoot any people that could somewhat be seen as a potential PR. Create distrust. Make sure not all corpses can be dug up and we just grow more paranoid over time. Never kill the PR's and we'll turn on them eventually.

This is a good point, and runs counter to the concept someone mentioned earlier that this looks like a noob scum team

Who said that I want to town read them for it

Bunny

It’s only a deep play for scum if they forget about the JOAT and Oracle…

Otherwise it’s a near-insta lose.

[Fluminator]

##Vote Tom
sure, let's see where this goes

[ghug]

Can someone explain why everyone and their mothers thought lfischl was the JOAT

It is kinda weird the inno'd a clear and gravedug damo

Bona wasn't a town clear EoD1...

Yeah, it's more that your specific actions have the hallmarks of a fakeclaim.

[snowy801]

##vote Tom Bomb

[Fluminator]

I don't think we worry about the undercover deep threats that succeeded a 4d chess move to be a PR until 7 players are left.

[kgray]

Can someone explain why everyone and their mothers thought lfischl was the JOAT

It is kinda weird the inno'd a clear and gravedug damo

Bona wasn't a town clear EoD1...

Yeah, it's more that your specific actions have the hallmarks of a fakeclaim.

I mean I agree that it's "convenient" but the comment about bona being town or god-tier is pretty damn convincing.

[Doom427]

Or, maybe im completely overthinking it and the scumteam figured theyd just kill a person noone is currently suspicious of since theyre fine with the current in-fighting.

Or had whatever other random reason for these selections.

PE did A LOT of fighting and spent a good chunk of the night pushing Scum!Chaqa. If they're both town, it's great to keep pushing it, if PE is scum it gives ammo for this (joke?) End vote, and if Chaqa is scum, well, he could be a power role? I guess the only thing I think is pretty unlikely is Chaqa/PE scum team?

[snowy801]

On the other hand wouldn't scum!Tom have claimed something EoD2

I don't really mind this since Tom's more or less forcing us to flip him eventually but that's always on the back of my mind

[Fluminator]

I don't think we worry about the undercover deep threats that succeeded a 4d chess move to be a PR until 7 players are left.

BUT, I do think if we make it to 7 players, we should take another look. Since nothing is impossible. It's just bizarre how much focus is on this scenario and I feel like scum might be hyping it up.

That gives us 5 miskills until then to catch 3 scum though.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Can someone explain why everyone and their mothers thought lfischl was the JOAT

It is kinda weird the inno'd a clear and gravedug damo

Bona wasn't a town clear EoD1...

Oh right sorry wasn't thinking

What made you choose him?

High levels of engagement with me, lots of useful posts in general but a nagging feeling about him I wanted to resolve. In addition kgray seemed to take issue with Bona starting a wagon on her and there was some suggestion there was a Bona-Durga alignment tie around that time. There may have been other linkages to Bona at that time by other players and I figured if I could get a read on Bona that could give me some information not just about him but on others as well based on how they reacted around him.

[Vecna]

This is a good point, and runs counter to the concept someone mentioned earlier that this looks like a noob scum team

Who said that I want to town read them for it

There is -at least- 1 person in a very specific sub-set of this playerlist on the scumteam, yes.

I wont embarass myself trying to narrow it down who would and would not make that cut in my mind, but it points towards a certain playstyle that gave this quite a lot of thought.

Reach for the stars Vecna, you'll can always use it in the future as evidence if you're right and if not who's even going to remember it

I mean, my first instinct was going to be that it would be in the group of <PE/Chaqa/Vecna/Snowy>

But this is just stacking assumption on top of assumption, and really doesnt result in any actually usefull deductions.

[Fluminator]

On the other hand wouldn't scum!Tom have claimed something EoD2

I don't really mind this since Tom's more or less forcing us to flip him eventually but that's always on the back of my mind

I thought about this too. I initially townread him for it, but thinking more I thought it was less compelling. I need to think more again though.

[President Eden]

TLDR:
- I thought lfischl was Oracle
- I believe TFB
- This only proves the Cop is still alive
- I accept it's logical not to kill Chaqa now
- I don't care, I think he's mafia, explained below
- I'm not budging but y'all can kill someone else, it's cool

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Can someone explain why everyone and their mothers thought lfischl was the JOAT

It is kinda weird the inno'd a clear and gravedug damo

Well, I thought he was the Oracle, actually, based on a couple of posts on day 1 that took specific interest in how the role worked. He obviously isn't.

I don't think he's the Cop, either, because I suspect lfischl would have been way more involved and excited for the game than he seemed to be, especially given that he could cc someone. I don't think he would have kept it quiet and died with it.

So unless Boat is mafia, which I don't believe, the real Cop - whoever it is - is still alive.

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I recognize that it's likely strategically correct to wait for a Cop cc. If y'all want to do that, that's fine. I trust the real Cop to play this their way and make us proud. They don't specifically need to claim EON4 or on any given point. Selfishly, I would appreciate that they go for it sooner rather than later, but I don't have the info to know whether that's right or wrong, so do what's best.

I completely agree with kgray. There is no way you're convincing me that, after we killed bozo yesterday, mafia is doing anything but roleblocking the outed Doc and killing the outed Cop, especially after losing a WIFOM battle the previous night and giving us an extra misfire - just to go hunting PRs among the lurkers. No fucking way. That's not even arrogant, that's just reckless.

damo being VT does not confirm Chaqa to be the Cop. It only confirms damo is not the Cop. It does make it entirely reasonable to wait to kill him.

That said, in addition to my EON post, and to kgray's point, Chaqa's deeming kgray's theory a "scumslip" is, in my mind, pretty close to a scumslip itself. kgray's theory was not only internally consistent even without actual knowledge of the RB, but made perfect sense as a retort to the RB claim. I would have been suspicious of worcej for trying to argue it as a scumslip except that he's confirmed Doc. At least worcej plausibly could have missed the RB claim. But Chaqa literally just posted that he was RBed. kgray's post is a completely natural reaction to it. Even if she herself didn't actually see it, if you had just claimed RB, it would not make any sense to think that someone calling BS on the night's events was "scumslipping" by implying they knew what you just said. It's an unnatural reaction that to me fits far more with mafia trying to run with worcej making a logical error. worcej has the excuse of not literally being the person who gave the info. Chaqa does not.

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Chaqa delenda est

[kgray]

Bona wasn't a town clear EoD1...

Oh right sorry wasn't thinking

What made you choose him?

High levels of engagement with me, lots of useful posts in general but a nagging feeling about him I wanted to resolve. In addition kgray seemed to take issue with Bona starting a wagon on her and there was some suggestion there was a Bona-Durga alignment tie around that time. There may have been other linkages to Bona at that time by other players and I figured if I could get a read on Bona that could give me some information not just about him but on others as well based on how they reacted around him.

idk boat man this is a lot of over-explanation....

[TheFlyingBoat]

Can someone explain why everyone and their mothers thought lfischl was the JOAT

It is kinda weird the inno'd a clear and gravedug damo

Bona wasn't a town clear EoD1...

Yeah, it's more that your specific actions have the hallmarks of a fakeclaim.

Care to expound, mon frere?

[snowy801]

I think I buy Joat!Boat honestly

I never did figure out how to shift PRs from scum esp when I'm not doing rereads

[TheFlyingBoat]

Oh right sorry wasn't thinking

What made you choose him?

High levels of engagement with me, lots of useful posts in general but a nagging feeling about him I wanted to resolve. In addition kgray seemed to take issue with Bona starting a wagon on her and there was some suggestion there was a Bona-Durga alignment tie around that time. There may have been other linkages to Bona at that time by other players and I figured if I could get a read on Bona that could give me some information not just about him but on others as well based on how they reacted around him.

idk boat man this is a lot of over-explanation....

[President Eden]

I believe TheFlyingJOAT

[President Eden]

Also I apologize if a couple of my posts came off heated, I was driving while I posted my start of day reacts and did not leave my customary emojis

Chaqa you're my bruv but you're mafia this game I'm sure of it