M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[BunnyGo]

Just got some devasting news. I will be away for a while. I'm sorry.

I hope there’s a good resolution.

[Fluminator]

Is it normal to get covid twice in one month?

[Doom427]

That’s a good place to start. I agree. But assuming something is true doesn’t make it so.

What do you think the scum chat is like now?

Serious answer:

Figure out whether or not they want to shoot Doctor, and go through Bozo's past text to see if they can plant any solid misrepresentations of who's scum and who's not.

Of course, town players are all doing the same thing right now, but looking for the truth. We just can't use a chat for that, cause Mafia are seeing it too

It’s a running gag here that people post jokey “in the scum chat”.

Ok, I like your thoughts.

If one or more of them isn’t currently being suspected much. Say Durga is on the team. What is their plan?

Hmm... Who to shoot to guarantee Durga is town? Shoot Durga, and hope WorceJ is so in tune, he defends her, and she's town clear?

I think Mafia with someone not suspected is on the team, they have to... go super hard on the WorceJ/Bona are actually scum strategy? So they need to make moves that heavily imply they're on the team, and hope WorceJ doesn't pull out another save. Making sure we end up having to worry about that at endgame is a good play there. If they feel confident one of them will make it to then, they need town to waste moves mis-daykilling

[BunnyGo]

Is it normal to get covid twice in one month?

Yes. the patient probably never recovered fully.

[Doom427]

Just got some devasting news. I will be away for a while. I'm sorry.

Wishing you the best

[ghug]

Just got some devasting news. I will be away for a while. I'm sorry.

Real life comes first. I hope things work out alright.

[rdrivera2005]

Well, you thugs decided to hammer Bozo. Not the best move but it was probably inevitable.

[Durga]

Don't shoot me I have nothing to do with my life

[ghug]

Don't shoot me I have nothing to do with my life

Did you quit your job?

[BunnyGo]

Serious answer:

Figure out whether or not they want to shoot Doctor, and go through Bozo's past text to see if they can plant any solid misrepresentations of who's scum and who's not.

Of course, town players are all doing the same thing right now, but looking for the truth. We just can't use a chat for that, cause Mafia are seeing it too

It’s a running gag here that people post jokey “in the scum chat”.

Ok, I like your thoughts.

If one or more of them isn’t currently being suspected much. Say Durga is on the team. What is their plan?

Hmm... Who to shoot to guarantee Durga is town? Shoot Durga, and hope WorceJ is so in tune, he defends her, and she's town clear?

I think Mafia with someone not suspected is on the team, they have to... go super hard on the WorceJ/Bona are actually scum strategy? So they need to make moves that heavily imply they're on the team, and hope WorceJ doesn't pull out another save. Making sure we end up having to worry about that at endgame is a good play there. If they feel confident one of them will make it to then, they need town to waste moves mis-daykilling

Ok good.

Can they leave worcej and chaqa alive if both are PRs?

Also remember that scum actually know the game state. The only thing they don’t know is who is JOAT and who is Oracle. And they don’t want to kill the Oracle.

[Durga]

Don't shoot me I have nothing to do with my life

Did you quit your job?

Well, no.

[ghug]

Don't shoot me I have nothing to do with my life

Did you quit your job?

Well, no.

I've always heard the law is an excellent profession for work/life balance.

[President Eden]

Did you quit your job?

Well, no.

I've always heard the law is an excellent profession for work/life balance.

It's called a stellar profession because it takes millions of years for people to burn out.

[Doom427]

It’s a running gag here that people post jokey “in the scum chat”.

Ok, I like your thoughts.

If one or more of them isn’t currently being suspected much. Say Durga is on the team. What is their plan?

Hmm... Who to shoot to guarantee Durga is town? Shoot Durga, and hope WorceJ is so in tune, he defends her, and she's town clear?

I think Mafia with someone not suspected is on the team, they have to... go super hard on the WorceJ/Bona are actually scum strategy? So they need to make moves that heavily imply they're on the team, and hope WorceJ doesn't pull out another save. Making sure we end up having to worry about that at endgame is a good play there. If they feel confident one of them will make it to then, they need town to waste moves mis-daykilling

Ok good.

Can they leave worcej and chaqa alive if both are PRs?

Also remember that scum actually know the game state. The only thing they don’t know is who is JOAT and who is Oracle. And they don’t want to kill the Oracle.

I mean, I don't want to spend too much time pouring all my effort to imagining what Mafia should do and posting it publicly, but-Chaqa is bad if he grabs a scum, while WorceJ is bad if he protects a kill. WorceJ alive gives you a lack of tempo, Chaqa gives you a big risk of death. JOAT is gonna run out of powers at this point, so role blocks won't matter anymore pretty soon. In that Case, Mafia's play had to be only one thing, if Chaqa and WorceJ are both PR

[BunnyGo]

Hmm... Who to shoot to guarantee Durga is town? Shoot Durga, and hope WorceJ is so in tune, he defends her, and she's town clear?

I think Mafia with someone not suspected is on the team, they have to... go super hard on the WorceJ/Bona are actually scum strategy? So they need to make moves that heavily imply they're on the team, and hope WorceJ doesn't pull out another save. Making sure we end up having to worry about that at endgame is a good play there. If they feel confident one of them will make it to then, they need town to waste moves mis-daykilling

Ok good.

Can they leave worcej and chaqa alive if both are PRs?

Also remember that scum actually know the game state. The only thing they don’t know is who is JOAT and who is Oracle. And they don’t want to kill the Oracle.

I mean, I don't want to spend too much time pouring all my effort to imagining what Mafia should do and posting it publicly, but-Chaqa is bad if he grabs a scum, while WorceJ is bad if he protects a kill. WorceJ alive gives you a lack of tempo, Chaqa gives you a big risk of death. JOAT is gonna run out of powers at this point, so role blocks won't matter anymore pretty soon. In that Case, Mafia's play had to be only one thing, if Chaqa and WorceJ are both PR

Great. I like how you think.

Now to role play:

Say you’re on the scum team. You had plans last night. You decided to kill Bona. You left the doctor for the WIFOM and chaqa. You’re clever. You even gambled on not blocking doctor for the extra block on Chaqa.

How do you feel when there’s no death and worcej posts that. What do you do?


yes I know this will read for lolz in the GT if worcej is scum and mafia held the kill last night. I’m paying off to that for now.

[President Eden]

I kinda think jasnah was mafia after all. It's really hard to find 3 mafia out of the remaining players.

[Doom427]

Ok good.

Can they leave worcej and chaqa alive if both are PRs?

Also remember that scum actually know the game state. The only thing they don’t know is who is JOAT and who is Oracle. And they don’t want to kill the Oracle.

I mean, I don't want to spend too much time pouring all my effort to imagining what Mafia should do and posting it publicly, but-Chaqa is bad if he grabs a scum, while WorceJ is bad if he protects a kill. WorceJ alive gives you a lack of tempo, Chaqa gives you a big risk of death. JOAT is gonna run out of powers at this point, so role blocks won't matter anymore pretty soon. In that Case, Mafia's play had to be only one thing, if Chaqa and WorceJ are both PR

Great. I like how you think.

Now to role play:

Say you’re on the scum team. You had plans last night. You decided to kill Bona. You left the doctor for the WIFOM and chaqa. You’re clever. You even gambled on not blocking doctor for the extra block on Chaqa.

How do you feel when there’s no death and worcej posts that. What do you do?

Cry probably. WorceJ was talking pretty crazy, so you have to go one of two ways-Throw as much shade as you can WorceJ's claim, or buddy as hard as possible. But you KNOW worceJ got the kill. So you probably go friends and try to kill Bozo. If you're lucky, let Bozo die without ever responding and then later push the "Was Bozo doc?" Question later. Cause then, you don't even have to deal with a on record save choice. Could risk a Mafia saying they actually got saved, come up with some excuse for it, and then hope you trade 1 for 2 at some point later on (That might not work tho. No would believe it, but maybe spur of moment you debate it?)

I feel like you can't defend Bozo at all. You know WorceJ is doc, and got the save.

[Doom427]

Took time scanning around and, yeah, those early responses do give me something. I'll want to check the bot for first votes of the Day, will probably have EoN update to reads cause of that, thanks Bunny! That was a good thing to check for.

[President Eden]

Our favorite circus actor had an interesting progression on jasnah.

He fairly quickly concludes that jasnah's play is bad as either alignment, but settles on jasnah being town, and that the people who want to 50/50 them are suspicious. Notably, the two most vocal advocates to 50/50 are our nigh-confirmed Doctor and our probable Cop.

His viewpoint hardens quickly as he begins criticizing me for unintentionally driving votes off worcej, who he treats like near-certain mafia for wanting to 50/50 jasnah and Bunny:

[bloviating omitted]

Why did you scare everyone off of the worcej wagon? worcej wants to DK jasnah and BunnyGo, even though he immediately believed BunnyGo's miller claim.

And then further solidifies near EOD:

Wtf why is bozo on flum lol

Honestly I'd be ok with a bozo daykill, he's not giving me any townie vibes whatsoever

I voted for Fluminator because he was self voting according to the bot, although I knew my vote would not be official yet, just as Fluminator's self vote would not be official. Fluminator was also the only significant alternative to jasnah at the time.

I and several others wrote the Fluminator vote off as a joke because of how the bot was mixing up Fluminator and FlyingBoat, but there's a very interesting revelation at the end - his motivation is to save jasnah. (It's also worth pointing out that Fluminator is probable VT, even more probable than Chaqa being Cop.)

bozo moves consistent with this premise of saving jasnah at EOD, voting for worcej until the Chaqa wagon overtakes worcej, then voting for Chaqa until the claim, then switching back to worcej, the primary alternative to jasnah, to end the day.

Based on this movement I think it's highly likely that jasnah is mafia and bozo was attempting to save jasnah day 1.

This would further reinforce that BunnyGo is the real Miller (though I don't think anybody doubts it at this point), and also creates a highly interesting day 1, because if jasnah is mafia, we now know with almost 100% certainty that day 1 was also TvS, like day 2. And unlike day 1, there was no smoking gun pointing to jasnah being mafia; public opinion was divided but generally favoring the idea that jasnah was town. This means mafia had far less incentive to bus and more incentive to openly protect jasnah, or at least steer the vote elsewhere. Our nearly-confirmed mafia appears to have been doing exactly this.

I am going to look at this some more tonight and tomorrow to see if we can get a bead on our last two mafia based off this.

[Durga]

Bruh why wouldn't scum want to save jasnah if she was town. She shitposted and left and would have been terrible to keep around for town because there was a huge question mark on her.