M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

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Re: M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

#7621 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:02 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:32 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:42 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:32 pm


I'm pretty sure he is scum, yes, but there's a chance (however small) you and worcej are scum trying to throw doc!Bozo out, and it's not a risk we need to take.

I don't think that is what is happening, but I'm not willing to risk it yet.
Then why does bozo claim to have protected bunny? This implies, on assumption that this the edge case of bona/worcej scumteam, that JOAT did the protection or that mafia held the nk. In the first case, JOAT can claim to set up either a 2 PRs for 2 scum or 1 PR and 1 VT for 2 scum. The second case is unproveable but sets up a 2 vs 1 of PR for scum, an objectively bad deal for scum that logarithically locks scum out of the game.
stop showing off math-nerd 8-)
exponentially? additively?

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#7622 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:02 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:00 pm
This is probably the first mafia game I've ever played where I feel like someone is trying to make me feel guilty and a bad person for pushing someone as scum.
The only response.
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#7623 Post by President Eden » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:02 pm

I was gonna respond to Jamie but in digging I realized bozo had a ton to say about the Cop situation, and I want to look at that first
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#7624 Post by Chaqa » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:03 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:53 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:51 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:49 pm


were you reading my scum games, or did my take on end-hammering Bozo cause this?
The latter, I've been working since I learned about your scum games so haven't checked them yet.

Awfully weird you both want to waste a potential oracle shot, and waste a day of meaningful daykill pressure,
Oh. Flum is back to being a hard null read, maybe even scum
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#7625 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:03 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:33 pm
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Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:26 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:07 pm


I didn't say it clearly makes me town???? I said Tom is ignoring that possibility and just saying I could be scum for doing it which is lazy and forced.
You've brought it up multiple times in defense of yourself, claiming that you'd never push bozo like you did if you were scum. Why does voting him when he was already a strongly leading wagon carry they much weight?
I mean I don't think I would have bused bozo like that in this game. You are free to disagree. But I was talking to bona about that, because bona had a different perspective in that I was actually talking with him about wanting to get bozo at EOD. You saying I'm implying that I'm clearly town here, with Tom, when I wasn't at all saying that, just looks like you're making up reasons to scumread or irritate me.
It's clearly not impossible for scum to think I was cop with a guilty on bozo, since worcej thought that.
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#7626 Post by President Eden » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:04 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:32 pm
Looking at damo's D1, I think his strong town read of PE points to him being the cop. Obviously damo would not want to make it obvious to the mafia that he was the cop, which I think explains the things being pointed to where he does not make it obvious. However, I think the point of damo's PE crumbs as cop would be to identify his clear if he was revealed as the cop, and there is no way anyone besides PE could be interpreted as his clear. Also, his strong town read of PE, starting with his very first post, do not make much sense otherwise, unless he was trying to draw the NK (which is not something I think I have ever seen damo do).

However, I do not think Chaqa should be DKed while it is still possible to resolve the cop question with the JOAT or oracle, in case he really is the cop.
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#7627 Post by Chaqa » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm

I'm bored
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#7628 Post by Durga » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm

If I was bozo and saw my NK was saved and knew they would get notified I would have claimed I saved my NK
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#7629 Post by Chaqa » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm

##CallGM:

Does this game require a majority of end votes on the same player, or simply a majority of players voting to end will cause the day to end with the current vote count?
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#7630 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:59 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:57 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:54 pm
@Jamie:

How do you feel about India locking in their victory by “failing” and covid test so that England didn’t have a chance to not blow a game with a huge lead?
This is something about cricket, I assume?

I haven't really been following the cricket lately.
Ah. The series had a lot of drama.

Ok. How do you feel about the people who interacted with bozos “no kill day 1” idea?
I didn't think it was a very good idea but since I was late turning up for D1, it appeared to have died as a concept before I was even here.
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#7631 Post by Vecna » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm
If I was bozo and saw my NK was saved and knew they would get notified I would have claimed I saved my NK
Yeah, I was also really surprised by that not happening
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#7633 Post by Chaqa » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:07 pm

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm
If I was bozo and saw my NK was saved and knew they would get notified I would have claimed I saved my NK
That doesn't make sense
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#7635 Post by ghug » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:08 pm

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm
If I was bozo and saw my NK was saved and knew they would get notified I would have claimed I saved my NK
I think he decided he was gonna lose the claim and thought we'd be more likely to waste an oracle if being wrong about him implicated two people.
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#7636 Post by Fluminator » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:08 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:02 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:00 pm
This is probably the first mafia game I've ever played where I feel like someone is trying to make me feel guilty and a bad person for pushing someone as scum.
The only response.
Lol, I mainly just feel really confused
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#7637 Post by Chaqa » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:09 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:07 pm
Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm
If I was bozo and saw my NK was saved and knew they would get notified I would have claimed I saved my NK
That doesn't make sense
To expand:

He would have to claim either:
1. He protected Bona
2. He protected a teammate, who would have to cover for him

That second would essentially be a very bad 2-for-2.

The first, why would doc!Bozo ever protect Bona, the one who pushed him out?

Bozo had to claim he didn't make a save
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#7638 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:06 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:59 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:57 pm


This is something about cricket, I assume?

I haven't really been following the cricket lately.
Ah. The series had a lot of drama.

Ok. How do you feel about the people who interacted with bozos “no kill day 1” idea?
I didn't think it was a very good idea but since I was late turning up for D1, it appeared to have died as a concept before I was even here.
If you do a search for people talking about bozo* it’s most of the day 1 results.
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#7639 Post by Vecna » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:09 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:07 pm
Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:05 pm
If I was bozo and saw my NK was saved and knew they would get notified I would have claimed I saved my NK
That doesn't make sense
yes it does?

Youre in a cc with town doc. you see no kill went through. the doc claims a save on your kill target. You claim that you saved the same guy, and that worcej just responded fast to their kill failing.

ofcourse the first person claiming is always gonna come out stronger since they risk being outted by the JOAT, but just claiming that 2 scum outted themselves to win a CC battle they were already winning.....
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