M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Fluminator]

See, even there. You're pretending I'm not calm and writing in a motive that's not there.

[Bonatogether]

I don't see the point if deterring the inevitable. We have to kill scum to win. May as well start day 1.

PE is town.

##vote Chaqa

why do you think PE is town? He always feels like this

To help jog Bona's memory...

Oh yeah. I didn't catch onto that at all as a cop soft.

[ghug]

Ok, having caught up:

Seeing the number of people who thought damo was cop with an Eden scan, I think it's likely mafia was hunting for the cop there, which de facto means Chaqa isn't. There's also the fact that claiming the most valuable PR to avoid daykill means you're more likely to be scum, and everything he did that made us want to daykill him. The nighttime reaction means nothing; any actual PR with half a brain does that, and thus so does a fake claimant. Flum's quotes have me feeling good about damo not actually being the cop, so overall not a bad position to be in.

All that said, I don't think we should kill Chaqa today. We could be wrong, he eats roleblocks while he's alive, and it'll make the day more interesting. The fact that kgray wants to do this is suspicious. I'm not that surprised by anyone else who's suggesting it. Kgray was less eager to kill Chaqa yesterday than she wanted it to seem, and the jasnah vote was weird. I also don't feel in my bones that she is town, which has been a reliable heuristic in the past (one that I haven't listened to). ##VOTE kgray

Like what is that first paragraph? You're saying nothing. And there's no way flum's damo posts are more convincing than bozo's.

There's literally nothing suspicious about me wanting to kill Chaqa (why tf am I under some different metric than everyone else anyway?) and there was nothing weird about me voting jasnah.

The first paragraph is stating my views on mechanical matters, which are not remotely settled. It's not saying nothing. And yes, I do find Flum's quotes convincing enough to make me believe damo's not the cop.

I'd expect you to not want to kill Chaqa here. It's pretty simple.

[ghug]

Ok, having caught up:

Seeing the number of people who thought damo was cop with an Eden scan, I think it's likely mafia was hunting for the cop there, which de facto means Chaqa isn't. There's also the fact that claiming the most valuable PR to avoid daykill means you're more likely to be scum, and everything he did that made us want to daykill him. The nighttime reaction means nothing; any actual PR with half a brain does that, and thus so does a fake claimant. Flum's quotes have me feeling good about damo not actually being the cop, so overall not a bad position to be in.

All that said, I don't think we should kill Chaqa today. We could be wrong, he eats roleblocks while he's alive, and it'll make the day more interesting. The fact that kgray wants to do this is suspicious. I'm not that surprised by anyone else who's suggesting it. Kgray was less eager to kill Chaqa yesterday than she wanted it to seem, and the jasnah vote was weird. I also don't feel in my bones that she is town, which has been a reliable heuristic in the past (one that I haven't listened to). ##VOTE kgray

If mafia are hunting for cop with a damo kill, why does that necessarily mean Chaqa isn't cop? Unless you know he's scum?

If Chaqa's the real cop, they take his claim at face value and either gamble on killing him or hunt for other PRs. I guess they theoretically could have believed the retraction, but that seems highly unlikely.

[kgray]

See, even there. You're pretending I'm not calm and writing in a motive that's not there.

K I can't do this with you Flum. I'm not trying to attribute false motives, I'm just trying to figure out yours. You claim I normally bleed town and don't think I'm that good at scum, yet you're scumreading me. But you're not even pushing me or voting me. Combined with what I saw as a blatant lack of interest and hunting D1 compared to previous games, I am pretty suspicious.

[kgray]

I'd expect you to not want to kill Chaqa here. It's pretty simple.

Why?

[Jamiet99uk]

I agree with President Eden that we should ##Vote Lfischl

[Fluminator]

Ok, having caught up:

Seeing the number of people who thought damo was cop with an Eden scan, I think it's likely mafia was hunting for the cop there, which de facto means Chaqa isn't. There's also the fact that claiming the most valuable PR to avoid daykill means you're more likely to be scum, and everything he did that made us want to daykill him. The nighttime reaction means nothing; any actual PR with half a brain does that, and thus so does a fake claimant. Flum's quotes have me feeling good about damo not actually being the cop, so overall not a bad position to be in.

All that said, I don't think we should kill Chaqa today. We could be wrong, he eats roleblocks while he's alive, and it'll make the day more interesting. The fact that kgray wants to do this is suspicious. I'm not that surprised by anyone else who's suggesting it. Kgray was less eager to kill Chaqa yesterday than she wanted it to seem, and the jasnah vote was weird. I also don't feel in my bones that she is town, which has been a reliable heuristic in the past (one that I haven't listened to). ##VOTE kgray

If mafia are hunting for cop with a damo kill, why does that necessarily mean Chaqa isn't cop? Unless you know he's scum?

If Chaqa's the real cop, they take his claim at face value and either gamble on killing him or hunt for other PRs. I guess they theoretically could have believed the retraction, but that seems highly unlikely.

How would scum know if Chaqa is the real cop?

[Fluminator]

See, even there. You're pretending I'm not calm and writing in a motive that's not there.

K I can't do this with you Flum. I'm not trying to attribute false motives, I'm just trying to figure out yours. You claim I normally bleed town and don't think I'm that good at scum, yet you're scumreading me. But you're not even pushing me or voting me. Combined with what I saw as a blatant lack of interest and hunting D1 compared to previous games, I am pretty suspicious.

I've never said you're not good at scum. You've won all your scum games.

[snowy801]

If mafia are hunting for cop with a damo kill, why does that necessarily mean Chaqa isn't cop? Unless you know he's scum?

If Chaqa's the real cop, they take his claim at face value and either gamble on killing him or hunt for other PRs. I guess they theoretically could have believed the retraction, but that seems highly unlikely.

How would scum know if Chaqa is the real cop?

How highly would you value the probability of town Chaqa fake claiming cop?

[kgray]

See, even there. You're pretending I'm not calm and writing in a motive that's not there.

K I can't do this with you Flum. I'm not trying to attribute false motives, I'm just trying to figure out yours. You claim I normally bleed town and don't think I'm that good at scum, yet you're scumreading me. But you're not even pushing me or voting me. Combined with what I saw as a blatant lack of interest and hunting D1 compared to previous games, I am pretty suspicious.

I've never said you're not good at scum. You've won all your scum games.

Whatever, I'm not getting into this argument. I know you've said something like I'm not that impressive and I refuse to go find it.

[ghug]

I'd expect you to not want to kill Chaqa here. It's pretty simple.

Why?

Because it's bad play. Eden's cocky to a fault and trying to beat his friend. Doom is new and I think behaving reasonably based on the info she's been given. You don't have a good excuse, which makes it look like a bus. I'd scumread plenty of other people for voting Chaqa now, like Tom or rd, so it's not a unique standard, it's just only applying to you right now.

[BunnyGo]

<snip>

3) Do you want me to drop out to play mafia?

And other games, yes. As a former educator of 15 years, I can say it'll serve you well.

[BunnyGo]

I agree with President Eden that we should ##Vote Lfischl

Why?

[ghug]

If mafia are hunting for cop with a damo kill, why does that necessarily mean Chaqa isn't cop? Unless you know he's scum?

If Chaqa's not on their team, they take his claim at face value and either gamble on killing him or hunt for other PRs. I guess they theoretically could have believed the retraction, but that seems highly unlikely.

How would scum know if Chaqa is the real cop?

That better? Feels like it should have been plenty clear given the rest of the statement.

[Bonatogether]

<snip>

3) Do you want me to drop out to play mafia?

And other games, yes. As a former educator of 15 years, I can say it'll serve you well.

I like my classes though

not math though

[kgray]

I'd expect you to not want to kill Chaqa here. It's pretty simple.

Why?

Because it's bad play. Eden's cocky to a fault and trying to beat his friend. Doom is new and I think behaving reasonably based on the info she's been given. You don't have a good excuse, which makes it look like a bus. I'd scumread plenty of other people for voting Chaqa now, like Tom or rd, so it's not a unique standard, it's just only applying to you right now.

I don't have a good excuse for wanting to kill a scumread? What is bad play about wanting to kill who I think is scum?

[ghug]

I agree with President Eden that we should ##Vote Lfischl

Why?

Kill kill kill kill kill the poor lurker

[BunnyGo]

<snip>

3) Do you want me to drop out to play mafia?

And other games, yes. As a former educator of 15 years, I can say it'll serve you well.

I like my classes though

not math though

You probably have a bad teacher and have only been taught the rote stuff. Not that everyone has to be an expert or anything, but the same way everyone should be able to appreciate various literature and art, the same should be true of math.

Enjoy your classes. It's your best chance to sit back and learn about the world.

[ghug]

Why?

Because it's bad play. Eden's cocky to a fault and trying to beat his friend. Doom is new and I think behaving reasonably based on the info she's been given. You don't have a good excuse, which makes it look like a bus. I'd scumread plenty of other people for voting Chaqa now, like Tom or rd, so it's not a unique standard, it's just only applying to you right now.

I don't have a good excuse for wanting to kill a scumread? What is bad play about wanting to kill who I think is scum?

Now you sound like Chaqa yesterday. There's an obvious mechanical benefit to leaving him alive, either because being wrong about him is extra bad or because scum has to eat their roleblock (or roleblock their nightkill, which could then also be exposed by a successful save) every night to keep the ruse alive.