Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Chaqa]

If I am town, my town read is genuine, and ghug can be somewhat believed to be town.

Here is the problem. If you are town your read of Ghug means nothing (means you think he is town, but considering you think I am scum, I don't have any faith on your reads).

My townread on ghug is stronger than my scumread on you.

It could be Bob/Maniac.

[rdrivera2005]

Also, if scumteam is me and Bob, why I didn't just vote you with Ghug? A lot easier, don't you think?

Two town wagons is better than one?

Well, at this point we have at least two town wagons for sure.

Ghug, do you still think scumteam is Chaqa-Maniac?

[ghug]

Also, if scumteam is me and Bob, why I didn't just vote you with Ghug? A lot easier, don't you think?

Two town wagons is better than one?

Well, at this point we have at least two town wagons for sure.

Ghug, do you still think scumteam is Chaqa-Maniac?

Yes. Chaqa's doing a better job than you in this discussion, though. There's no shortage of doubt.

[rdrivera2005]

Two town wagons is better than one?

Well, at this point we have at least two town wagons for sure.

Ghug, do you still think scumteam is Chaqa-Maniac?

Yes. Chaqa's doing a better job than you in this discussion, though. There's no shortage of doubt.

Care to explain why?

I just don´t understand Chaqa´s logic.

[Maniac]

<snip>

My hunch atm is still Bob-Rivera, and it's pretty appropriate they're voting ghug, because they need to convince Maniac to vote ghug out and win.

No one has to convince me to vote Ghug. My problem with voting Ghug is that you won’t. So say I vote with Bob and Rdriveria and you and Ghug vote my top town read rdriveria. Bob wakes up and votes with you and if I’m right about Rdriveria being town we lose.

The only way we go into tomorrow is for town to vote together.

I think town is Rdriveria, Chaqa and me (obviously). It seems me and rdriveria thinks Ghug/Bob are scum team and you think Bob/Rdriveria are scum team. For today that doesn’t matter. What matters is getting three town on 1 scum. Bob isn’t my top scum read, but I think we can compromise and get him killed and if he is scum some of us go through to last day with more info.

In short. @chaqa and @Rdriveria. If you think Bob is part of the scum team then
Please, please, please join me on him now. Don’t
Let Bob decide this by waking up with 5 seconds to go and switching.

I’m staying on Bob,

[ghug]

Well, at this point we have at least two town wagons for sure.

Ghug, do you still think scumteam is Chaqa-Maniac?

Yes. Chaqa's doing a better job than you in this discussion, though. There's no shortage of doubt.

Care to explain why?

I just don´t understand Chaqa´s logic.

It seems most likely Bob or I will die today. I don't see a ton of reason for scum Chaqa to push to defend me like this and also not push Bob. His logic is weird, but it makes sense if you buy how convinced he is that he can read me correctly.

You're also not approaching this with the pressure and anxiety that I know I'm feeling right now. The kill going the wrong way here is only game over for town, so a more laid back approach strikes me as scummy.

[rdrivera2005]

Yes. Chaqa's doing a better job than you in this discussion, though. There's no shortage of doubt.

Care to explain why?

I just don´t understand Chaqa´s logic.

It seems most likely Bob or I will die today. I don't see a ton of reason for scum Chaqa to push to defend me like this and also not push Bob. His logic is weird, but it makes sense if you buy how convinced he is that he can read me correctly.

You're also not approaching this with the pressure and anxiety that I know I'm feeling right now. The kill going the wrong way here is only game over for town, so a more laid back approach strikes me as scummy.

Where do you think I am laying back? I keep flip flopping betwee you and Chaqa being scum. It took me a day to vote because I didn´t know what to do and I am really outguessing myself all the time (even with Maniac that is my top town read).

Chaqa has this bizarre certainty that you are town that I just can´t understand any town having it right now.

[rdrivera2005]

<snip>

My hunch atm is still Bob-Rivera, and it's pretty appropriate they're voting ghug, because they need to convince Maniac to vote ghug out and win.

No one has to convince me to vote Ghug. My problem with voting Ghug is that you won’t. So say I vote with Bob and Rdriveria and you and Ghug vote my top town read rdriveria. Bob wakes up and votes with you and if I’m right about Rdriveria being town we lose.

The only way we go into tomorrow is for town to vote together.

I think town is Rdriveria, Chaqa and me (obviously). It seems me and rdriveria thinks Ghug/Bob are scum team and you think Bob/Rdriveria are scum team. For today that doesn’t matter. What matters is getting three town on 1 scum. Bob isn’t my top scum read, but I think we can compromise and get him killed and if he is scum some of us go through to last day with more info.

In short. @chaqa and @Rdriveria. If you think Bob is part of the scum team then
Please, please, please join me on him now. Don’t
Let Bob decide this by waking up with 5 seconds to go and switching.

I’m staying on Bob,

You are forcing my hand on this Maniac.

We need Ghug to also agree on this, in case he is town and Chaqa is scum.

[Chaqa]

I very much want to vote Rivera today over Bob.

But I will vote Bob over ghug.

Or ghug or Naniac over myself

[ghug]

Care to explain why?

I just don´t understand Chaqa´s logic.

It seems most likely Bob or I will die today. I don't see a ton of reason for scum Chaqa to push to defend me like this and also not push Bob. His logic is weird, but it makes sense if you buy how convinced he is that he can read me correctly.

You're also not approaching this with the pressure and anxiety that I know I'm feeling right now. The kill going the wrong way here is only game over for town, so a more laid back approach strikes me as scummy.

Where do you think I am laying back? I keep flip flopping betwee you and Chaqa being scum. It took me a day to vote because I didn´t know what to do and I am really outguessing myself all the time (even with Maniac that is my top town read).

Chaqa has this bizarre certainty that you are town that I just can´t understand any town having it right now.

I agree with the last bit.

[ghug]

<snip>

My hunch atm is still Bob-Rivera, and it's pretty appropriate they're voting ghug, because they need to convince Maniac to vote ghug out and win.

No one has to convince me to vote Ghug. My problem with voting Ghug is that you won’t. So say I vote with Bob and Rdriveria and you and Ghug vote my top town read rdriveria. Bob wakes up and votes with you and if I’m right about Rdriveria being town we lose.

The only way we go into tomorrow is for town to vote together.

I think town is Rdriveria, Chaqa and me (obviously). It seems me and rdriveria thinks Ghug/Bob are scum team and you think Bob/Rdriveria are scum team. For today that doesn’t matter. What matters is getting three town on 1 scum. Bob isn’t my top scum read, but I think we can compromise and get him killed and if he is scum some of us go through to last day with more info.

In short. @chaqa and @Rdriveria. If you think Bob is part of the scum team then
Please, please, please join me on him now. Don’t
Let Bob decide this by waking up with 5 seconds to go and switching.

I’m staying on Bob,

You are forcing my hand on this Maniac.

We need Ghug to also agree on this, in case he is town and Chaqa is scum.

Maniac > Chaqa > Bob > Rd > ghug

I feel like Bob emerging as the consensus candidates means he's town, though.

[Chaqa]

It seems most likely Bob or I will die today. I don't see a ton of reason for scum Chaqa to push to defend me like this and also not push Bob. His logic is weird, but it makes sense if you buy how convinced he is that he can read me correctly.

You're also not approaching this with the pressure and anxiety that I know I'm feeling right now. The kill going the wrong way here is only game over for town, so a more laid back approach strikes me as scummy.

Where do you think I am laying back? I keep flip flopping betwee you and Chaqa being scum. It took me a day to vote because I didn´t know what to do and I am really outguessing myself all the time (even with Maniac that is my top town read).

Chaqa has this bizarre certainty that you are town that I just can´t understand any town having it right now.

I agree with the last bit.

Do I need to go back and find every game I've read you correctly?

It's literally eevry game.

[rdrivera2005]

No one has to convince me to vote Ghug. My problem with voting Ghug is that you won’t. So say I vote with Bob and Rdriveria and you and Ghug vote my top town read rdriveria. Bob wakes up and votes with you and if I’m right about Rdriveria being town we lose.

The only way we go into tomorrow is for town to vote together.

I think town is Rdriveria, Chaqa and me (obviously). It seems me and rdriveria thinks Ghug/Bob are scum team and you think Bob/Rdriveria are scum team. For today that doesn’t matter. What matters is getting three town on 1 scum. Bob isn’t my top scum read, but I think we can compromise and get him killed and if he is scum some of us go through to last day with more info.

In short. @chaqa and @Rdriveria. If you think Bob is part of the scum team then
Please, please, please join me on him now. Don’t
Let Bob decide this by waking up with 5 seconds to go and switching.

I’m staying on Bob,

You are forcing my hand on this Maniac.

We need Ghug to also agree on this, in case he is town and Chaqa is scum.

Maniac > Chaqa > Bob > Rd > ghug

I feel like Bob emerging as the consensus candidates means he's town, though.

I have this same feeling, but I just can´t see what to do instead of a consensus.

[ghug]

You are forcing my hand on this Maniac.

We need Ghug to also agree on this, in case he is town and Chaqa is scum.

Maniac > Chaqa > Bob > Rd > ghug

I feel like Bob emerging as the consensus candidates means he's town, though.

I have this same feeling, but I just can´t see what to do instead of a consensus.

You could stop misreading me.

[rdrivera2005]

Maniac > Chaqa > Bob > Rd > ghug

I feel like Bob emerging as the consensus candidates means he's town, though.

I have this same feeling, but I just can´t see what to do instead of a consensus.

You could stop misreading me.

What this have to do with a consensus? You are not going to be killed today even if I am misreading you because of Chaqa (and Maniac).
I feel I am trapped.

[ghug]

I have this same feeling, but I just can´t see what to do instead of a consensus.

You could stop misreading me.

What this have to do with a consensus? You are not going to be killed today even if I am misreading you because of Chaqa (and Maniac).
I feel I am trapped.

Right, we could develop a new consensus on one of them, but that's not going to happen as long as you think it's me.

[rdrivera2005]

You could stop misreading me.

What this have to do with a consensus? You are not going to be killed today even if I am misreading you because of Chaqa (and Maniac).
I feel I am trapped.

Right, we could develop a new consensus on one of them, but that's not going to happen as long as you think it's me.

Even if we develop a new consensus, maybe on Chaqa, Maniac made it clear he won´t change his mind and I don´t think Chaqa will vote himself.
So, any alternative that isn´t Bob seems to open a big chance scum could just jump last minute to get a town kill or a tie.

[rdrivera2005]

I will ##vote Bob right now just in case.
I am having a bad feeeling about this EOD.

[ghug]

I will ##vote Bob right now just in case.
I am having a bad feeeling about this EOD.

Me too.

[ghug]

##VOTE Bob I guess, but I'm around if anyone wants to change.