Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[BobMcBob]

##vote worcej

The reasoning on Jamie's wagon is incredibly uninspiring and makes me think people are fine just killing Jamie regardless. Fox seems to be doing his best to make me want to kill him, but something in me wants to hold off on him atm.

interesting post, not quite sure what to make of this

[BobMcBob]

ghug
Fox
Kak
Maniac
Celaph
Bona
Bob
Rd
Worcej
Vecna
Jamie

is this one of those lists from last game that bozo was a fan of?

[BobMcBob]

Kak is so scummy here and I don't know why others aren't seeing it.

that wouldve looked a lot worse if worcej was scum
as it stands it doesnt look too bad now
i think

[BobMcBob]

##vote BobMcBob

now lfischl either gets modkilled or he votes worcej

hmmm?
also why would there be a modkill with 3 subs on the board?

[BobMcBob]

i scumread celaph

yeah i was wondering if eod would change my pesrpective but nah
celaph looks pretty bad
alwhough i wonder if celaph would defend his teammate that blatantly

[ghug]

ghug
Fox
Kak
Maniac
Celaph
Bona
Bob
Rd
Worcej
Vecna
Jamie

is this one of those lists from last game that bozo was a fan of?

I dunno. It just helps me to put everyone down in order because I can adjust my expectations if I'm overtownreading or overscumreading.

[BobMcBob]

Fox, Jaime, Maniac, look good as early lfischl pushers

only those 3?
really?
im sad now

[BobMcBob]

especially as a late jumper to lfischl

You shouldn't be scum reading me for my late vote. Anyone who can read can see I didn't believe in it. If you want to scum read me for something, scum

yeah but combined with all your mentions of lfischl earlier it looks like a pretty scummy vote

[BobMcBob]

especially as a late jumper to lfischl

You shouldn't be scum reading me for my late vote. Anyone who can read can see I didn't believe in it. If you want to scum read me for something, scum

*Scum read me for defending him all day.

okay i can do that

[BobMcBob]

I just noticed we made detective's job much harder, can only find one mafia anymore. Ah well, that just means keep quiet until one positive match.

i dont... think thats actaully a bad thing kak

[BobMcBob]

I will claim that lfischl wagon was town driven and any scum on it are entirely in the last 5 or 10 minutes

Why do you think this? Day one scum kills almost always involve a big bus.

do you think it was BobMcBob?

i get the impression kak really likes this theory...

[BobMcBob]

Why do you think this? Day one scum kills almost always involve a big bus.

do you think it was BobMcBob?

Maybe. Celaph's vote means nothing, but I think Bona agrees with that. I think you, Fox (partially for independent townread reasons), and Maniac have earned a little while at least.

so in that case nobody would be the busser?
or you dont really think anyone was bussing?

[BobMcBob]

The only thing I really lament is, that we got not much information from lfischl.

there may be something to draw from what he said about ghug/jamie
does he make that dichotomy between two town, or town and a teammate?
i dont know
but i dont think we can get anything else out of lfischls posts
its better to search other peoples interactions with him or thoughts on him

[BobMcBob]

i don't care

voting is voting

if you were the tiebreaker, think of that towncred you'd get

ergo, that was a scummy vote (or at least not-town)

This keeps eating at me. What are you trying to say here? Saying it's a scummy vote because breaking the tie in lfischl's favor would appear townie is tautological, because a town celaph wouldn't know that to be the case. Celaph's point is that his vote wasn't ever going to get him any towncred, and thus should be NAI, not that his vote is townie.

On assumption celaph is town, he doesn't deserve anything for his vote. This is unverifiable immediately, so we must keep it in mind but not use it too much.

However, breaking the tie in this situation often will get the breaker towncred. Scum!celaph most likely knows this and therefore, we must consider scum!celaph voting scum!lfischl as for towncredit. If this were to be the case, then celaph would have fooled us. This is bad, and deserves caution. Therefore, this vote must be considered not-town.

Taking these two together (nothing, and not-town), on balance that was a not-town vote, which, given usual patterns of celaph's behavior, is scummy.

this is such a weird way of analysing the post
or maybe just the phrasing is throwing me off

[BobMcBob]

Yeah appealing for brownie points in this way is not a good strategy though.

i really doubt that was the goal there...

You seem convinced that Bona is town.

Interesting.

i think bona just says that stuff for fun

[BobMcBob]

Lurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.

Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?

you know as well as anyone else here that this is normal for rdr
why scumread him for it this time?

Just a D1 lean. Information is limited on D1.

What do you make of EoD, Bob?

What do you think of Kak's accusation that you were bussing?

its strange having so few people on a flip, not used to minis
i think kak wouldve looked bad for his eod if the flip had been different, but it looks fine now
celaph vote was very unimpressive
your vote doesnt look great
maniac and foxcastle look pretty good but it still couldve been a bus there
ghugs vote is fine i think

as for kaks accusation, i have no idea where its coming from or why he is so enthusiastic about it
i would like to see the logic behind it

[ghug]

do you think it was BobMcBob?

Maybe. Celaph's vote means nothing, but I think Bona agrees with that. I think you, Fox (partially for independent townread reasons), and Maniac have earned a little while at least.

so in that case nobody would be the busser?
or you dont really think anyone was bussing?

I'm a little doubtful having actually looked over the wagons. I kinda think you're all town, but odds are I'm wrong on at least one. Best bet is you.

[ghug]

i really doubt that was the goal there...

You seem convinced that Bona is town.

Interesting.

i think bona just says that stuff for fun

This is another example of Jamie making out comments to be strongly-held reads in an attempt to discredit the commenters.

[BobMcBob]

Maybe. Celaph's vote means nothing, but I think Bona agrees with that. I think you, Fox (partially for independent townread reasons), and Maniac have earned a little while at least.

so in that case nobody would be the busser?
or you dont really think anyone was bussing?

I'm a little doubtful having actually looked over the wagons. I kinda think you're all town, but odds are I'm wrong on at least one. Best bet is you.

what are your thoughts on celaph?
too scummy to be scum?

[ghug]

so in that case nobody would be the busser?
or you dont really think anyone was bussing?

I'm a little doubtful having actually looked over the wagons. I kinda think you're all town, but odds are I'm wrong on at least one. Best bet is you.

what are your thoughts on celaph?
too scummy to be scum?

As to the matter of lfischl, probably, though I think this isn't that far off how I'd expect it to look if he tried to defend a teammate and failed. I don't see anything scummy in the rest of his play, though.