Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[BobMcBob]

it's a proven fact no one here can read lfischl

Is that because there's basically nothing to read?

I'd say a combination of this and because his comments and questions are often surface level, direct, and not insightful giving him the appearance of not trying to solve.

weird post
why point this out?
why do an actual analysis on this chain of posts?

[BobMcBob]

It's probably worcej, celaph, and Vecna, actually.

##VOTE WORCEJ for lurking.

Are Vecna and I still on here for the weak townread argument you made earlier?

Nervous that I have some evidence, eh?

lol this is great

[BobMcBob]

What about those posts bothers you, Bona?

it's un-celaph to make those comments

I feel very meh about almost everyone at the moment and I haven't seen anyone really make a good argument. Hence my focus on pushing back against people's suspicions.

very odd way to play
this does seem a bit less usual for celaph i guess
although there was a lot of dead air to be fair

[BobMcBob]

##vote Kak for the fluff he was filler he was putting out.

@kak, you said that you were fishing for reactions yet a number of your posts so obviously contained no information that it makes me wonder what reaction you were expecting for besides being dismissed/ignored. What conclusions have you drawn from them?

I'm also partial to Maniac and Worcej wagons given their lack of content. lfischl also falls into this category, but his posts felt very normal and so I'm less inclined to vote for him.

maniac for lack of content?
really?
and not lfischl?

i disagree with kak reasoning but its at least fine and i could see someone thinking that

[worcej]

Super glad you guys weren’t incredibly silly and flash wagoned me and instead got a goon

hate this post

Only because I am glad you chose not to flash wagon me?

What would you have learned from my flip?

Do you think me lurking on D1, which was over a weekend (when I am almost always a not posting much), is a scumtell for me?

[Bonatogether]

Super glad you guys weren’t incredibly silly and flash wagoned me and instead got a goon

hate this post

Only because I am glad you chose not to flash wagon me?

What would you have learned from my flip?

Do you think me lurking on D1, which was over a weekend (when I am almost always a not posting much), is a scumtell for me?

idk what this means

your role

i wasn't paying attention to you d1 but the post is

[ghug]

i don't care

voting is voting

if you were the tiebreaker, think of that towncred you'd get

ergo, that was a scummy vote (or at least not-town)

This keeps eating at me. What are you trying to say here? Saying it's a scummy vote because breaking the tie in lfischl's favor would appear townie is tautological, because a town celaph wouldn't know that to be the case. Celaph's point is that his vote wasn't ever going to get him any towncred, and thus should be NAI, not that his vote is townie.

On assumption celaph is town, he doesn't deserve anything for his vote. This is unverifiable immediately, so we must keep it in mind but not use it too much.

However, breaking the tie in this situation often will get the breaker towncred. Scum!celaph most likely knows this and therefore, we must consider scum!celaph voting scum!lfischl as for towncredit. If this were to be the case, then celaph would have fooled us. This is bad, and deserves caution. Therefore, this vote must be considered not-town.

Taking these two together (nothing, and not-town), on balance that was a not-town vote, which, given usual patterns of celaph's behavior, is scummy.

He didn't break the tie though? And voting for scum is town-indicative, as you're arguing elsewhere?

He doesn't get cred because he piled on to prevent a tie, so his vote wasn't meaningful.

[ghug]

Ghug and Jamie super scum.

Dumb worcej town worcej.

[BobMcBob]

I don't like how Bob went quiet when the pressure waned.

zzzzz

[ghug]

I don't like how Bob went quiet when the pressure waned.

zzzzz

Yeah, I keep forgetting that I've been in a different timezone all weekend.

[ghug]

Does anyone want to tell the class why I'm obvtown or do I get to be a D3 wagon?

[ghug]

Hmm maybe I'm not obvtown, never mind.

[BobMcBob]

Hmm maybe I'm not obvtown, never mind.

yeah i think youre overselling yourself
especially if i wasnt obvtown enough last game

[BobMcBob]

@Kak, go look at lfischl's M67 where he was town. It strikes me as similarly unimpressive to his play today.

it strikes me as odd how many times celaph pointed out lfischls inactivity as normal
and wanted to kill specifically in the non-lfischl lurkers

[ghug]

Hmm maybe I'm not obvtown, never mind.

yeah i think youre overselling yourself
especially if i wasnt obvtown enough last game

You were pretty obvtown last game.

I'll leave my thoughts here as an exercise to the reader.

[BobMcBob]

Hmm ... if Bob is actually mafia with lfischl here, he might also try to do a low key bus. In that case, would it be correct to go for Bob? Or lfischl?

if were both mafia either is correct
why did you think that was likely though?
and why did you think it likely enough to consider me over lfischl?

[BobMcBob]

Hmm maybe I'm not obvtown, never mind.

yeah i think youre overselling yourself
especially if i wasnt obvtown enough last game

You were pretty obvtown last game.

I'll leave my thoughts here as an exercise to the reader.

tell that to the 5 people with me in their d3 poe with no explanation

[ghug]

ghug
Fox
Kak
Maniac
Celaph
Bona
Bob
Rd
Worcej
Vecna
Jamie

[ghug]

yeah i think youre overselling yourself
especially if i wasnt obvtown enough last game

You were pretty obvtown last game.

I'll leave my thoughts here as an exercise to the reader.

tell that to the 5 people with me in their d3 poe with no explanation

People were struggling with the setup, I think? I dunno. There's a reason they tried to kill me and failed and then shot me. You'll learn at some point that obvtown is overrated.

[BobMcBob]

Phew, that is actually hard. I'm having the creeps right now from lfischl. Worcej isn't here, ok, something sunday and family (see last game), alright, but no word of it is kinda strange. And then ... hmm ... I'm kinda lost. Maybe celaph? Maybe jamie? Maybe bob? From the reactions per se, I'm not sure, but did bob try to buddy me? And maniac was kinda strange too, but that might be just strange strange. Or weird strange.

So probably lfischl, worcej and, with the current low energy situation, probably bob and cel/jamie are just the t vs t situation mafia would want to have? Sorry if I sound unsure but I guess I can't get a better feeling of the situation right now.

Unless Jamie is scum, this hesitancy strikes me as town from Kak. ##unvote

I also get the sense that he's not likely to be scum with Fox here.

yeah i agree with this