Nope, I didn't like your assertion on me, the reaction to Bob and also to Kak. This are three things that I didn't like.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:36 pmLurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:27 pmWhy do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:43 pmYou seem to be tryharding and your unexplained vote on me was annoying.
Rdrivera seems to be lurking hard so I'm also leaning scum on him.
Kak's entrance felt very reminiscent of his entrance last time when he was scum, so, maybe?
You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.
##vote Jamiet
Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?
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Okay thanks for clarifying. Just the way you suddenly seemed quite sure about all three made me think you might have a reason to connect them. No worries.Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:11 pmSorry, that phrasing is a little brusque. I should have just said, I am not asserting a connection between Worcej and Vecna.Foxcastle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:10 pmWho said I needed to?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:09 pm
Worcej is lurking, it's true.
How do you connect Worcej to Vecna, however?
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Be more specific please. These are vague, un-specific statements.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:14 pmNope, I didn't like your assertion on me, the reaction to Bob and also to Kak. This are three things that I didn't like.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:36 pmLurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.
Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?
What about my reactions to Kak and Bob did you "dislike"?
What was scummy about my interaction with either of those people?
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I don't have a good answer that I like here. Reading Jamie's ISO it feels like there is very little there that is either scummy or towny. I was going to disagree with a number of the votes on him, but now that I've thought about it my immediate examples come from scum Jamie games so I'll pose them as questions instead.Kakarroto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:22 pm@ghug if you could remove one player right now from the game (vig shot, poison, etc. ...), who would it be? Please also tell me why.
@everyone I would like these questions answered from everyone participating right now, so if you are so kind, please tell me this.
@Maniac, I feel like Jamie has pushed towards killing lurkers in a number of games. Do you think he has a bias towards doing so as scum?
@worcej, given the context between Jamie and ghug do you think that Jamie would act differently as town in this situation?
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@Lfischl - why are you so absent, yet again?
Take part or sub out.
Take part or sub out.
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As I posted elsewhere, I have a theory that the best way to find scum is it to look in my weak town reads.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:14 pmOkay thanks for clarifying. Just the way you suddenly seemed quite sure about all three made me think you might have a reason to connect them. No worries.
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Does scumarroto post nothing this blatantly? Or this a genuine boredarroto?Kakarroto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:34 pmAlright, since it's so silent right now, I've worked on another theory, I call it the Tymora theory.
I just took my Tymora blessed d20 and rolled from the first entry number to the last, every 13+ roll being a reroll, first come first serve from a predetermined role list (reroll if someone has already the numer). Here the result:
1. Bob McBob - 2 (doc)
2. Bona - 2, 17, 11 (maf)
4. Vecna - 19, 20, 5 (town)
3. Ghug - 2, 17, 15, 3 (town)
5. JamieT - 12 (maf)
6. worcej - 18, 5, 8 (town)
7. Maniac McManiac (He, Him, His, Handsome) - 4 (town)
8. Rdrivera2005 - 15, 8, 7 (town)
9. Kakarroto - 2, 9 (town)
10. lfischl - 7, 13, 19, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 19, 9, 2, 7, 9, 16, 3, 2, 1 (det)
11. celaph (he/him) - 15, 9, 18, 15, 5, 19, 16, 3, 5, 7, 7, 19, 9, 3, 8, 19, 3, 3, 16, 12, 16, 15, 4, 10 (maf)
12. Foxcastle - takes left numer 6 (town)
1. detective x
2. doctor x
3. town x
4. town x
5. town x
6. town
7. town x
8. town x
9. town x
10. mafia x
11. mafia x
12. mafia x
I'm surprised I didn't roll a 6, but alright. If that theory is correct, it would be mafia team bona - jamie - celaph.
Hmmmm
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Not Jamiet/celaph?ghug wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:12 pmJamie/Vecna scumteam confirmed.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:09 pmWorcej is lurking, it's true.
How do you connect Worcej to Vecna, however?
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@Ghug: If you are town, then I appeal to you. You are voting me partly because you and I seem to be bad at communicating with each other, and this annoys you. This is not a pro-town mindset for you, but in a large game maybe it would be forgivable. However, in this game, we only have 9 townies. Therefore we cannot afford multiple mis-killings. So, voting me when a big part of your reason for doing so is "Jamie is annoying, I'd rather get him out of the way" is helping scum and hindering town.
You're better than this.
You're better than this.
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kekghug wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:12 pmJamie/Vecna scumteam confirmed.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:09 pmWorcej is lurking, it's true.
How do you connect Worcej to Vecna, however?
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Do you feel like lfischl is playing differently than normal? I certainly wouldn't describe his play as impressive, but it felt very lfischl-y to me.
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because his recent posts have been un-celaphlike in their unthoughtfulness
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I'm going to go space trucking for an hour or so because I have some missions that are about to expire. I shall return before EoD. Don't hang me, I am town.
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is this scummy?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:21 pm@Ghug: If you are town, then I appeal to you. You are voting me partly because you and I seem to be bad at communicating with each other, and this annoys you. This is not a pro-town mindset for you, but in a large game maybe it would be forgivable. However, in this game, we only have 9 townies. Therefore we cannot afford multiple mis-killings. So, voting me when a big part of your reason for doing so is "Jamie is annoying, I'd rather get him out of the way" is helping scum and hindering town.
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why are you ignoring me?
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I think it's mostly NAI for JamieBonatogether wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:25 pmis this scummy?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:21 pm@Ghug: If you are town, then I appeal to you. You are voting me partly because you and I seem to be bad at communicating with each other, and this annoys you. This is not a pro-town mindset for you, but in a large game maybe it would be forgivable. However, in this game, we only have 9 townies. Therefore we cannot afford multiple mis-killings. So, voting me when a big part of your reason for doing so is "Jamie is annoying, I'd rather get him out of the way" is helping scum and hindering town.
You're better than this.
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I'd say a combination of this and because his comments and questions are often surface level, direct, and not insightful giving him the appearance of not trying to solve.
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I'm not seeing the celaph thing, and the way Vecna interacted with Jamie on page 1 reads like annoyance at a teammate.
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Rdr's (albeit rather limited) posts this game feel like a productive town rdr.rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:33 pmGhug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.Kakarroto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:40 pmAs someone who said last game 'good job buddying me' to me after my mafiaflip and with this post, who would you say would've buddied you in this game (or is there no one)? Is there any duo right now who, you would say, seems to be buddying? Or someone who tries to buddy someone?rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:13 am
I don't think I ever saw someone guide a scum teammate. What happens sometimes is scum buddying a town. Kgray does it extremely well, for example. Anyway, not usual for Ghug at any alignment, so it's probably what Vecna is pointing here.
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