Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Bonatogether]

Ghug could be buddying Bona, but it's now his usual style as scum. People that are usually a bit abrasive don't tend to try to buddy anyone as it would be too obvious.

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

Couldn't I just be failing?

perhaps but I don't think you are

[Bonatogether]

"An enemy can't be manipulating me if I don't agree with him" is not a valid conclusion.

but that's not buddying

We should definitely put aside the question of whether scum-ghug is manipulating you in order to have a semantics debate about the meaning of "buddying"...

What do you think ghug is doing?

normal town!ghug things.

[Bonatogether]

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

Couldn't I just be failing?

Drawing Bona into a semantics debate on the exact and precise meaning of buddying is not making me think you are town!

that's a typical ghug quote. we could just make ghugbot to make sarcastic remarks and it would be indistinguishable from the actual ghug

[Jamiet99uk]

Ah, of course. I had forgotten your well-known personality trait of only answering questions that were specifically stated. I must have been thinking of another Jamiet who regularly extrapolates and whose data dumps regularly include relevant information like whether the person killed was town or scum.

Anyway, I asked because it looked like it could be an effort to hide how often town is right to kill high or low posters, but then when questioned about it, Jamiet deflected pretty hard, so now I'm even more curious about his behavior!

I didn't deflect. I gave you a direct answer.

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

[Foxcastle]

I didn't deflect. I gave you a direct answer.

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

You getting defensive about it is proving my point, really!

[ghug]

ghug can't be buddying me if i don't townread him

Couldn't I just be failing?

Drawing Bona into a semantics debate on the exact and precise meaning of buddying is not making me think you are town!

In fact I was just responding to his post in exactly the way you did.

[Foxcastle]

Couldn't I just be failing?

Drawing Bona into a semantics debate on the exact and precise meaning of buddying is not making me think you are town!

In fact I was just responding to his post in exactly the way you did.

Yes, but only one of us is ghug.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

You getting defensive about it is proving my point, really!

I don't think so.

Do you think that I would normally provide the information to which you refer as town, but as scum I would obfuscate it instead?

Have you actually performed any of the said data analysis?

Are you suggesting that the data holds some damning results that I am deliberately covering up?

[Jamiet99uk]

Drawing Bona into a semantics debate on the exact and precise meaning of buddying is not making me think you are town!

In fact I was just responding to his post in exactly the way you did.

Yes, but only one of us is ghug.

Couldn't he just be flailing?

[ghug]

I didn't deflect. I gave you a direct answer.

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

Where did he say it would prove that you're scum? This feels like a pretty disingenuous mischaracterization.

[ghug]

Drawing Bona into a semantics debate on the exact and precise meaning of buddying is not making me think you are town!

In fact I was just responding to his post in exactly the way you did.

Yes, but only one of us is ghug.

But which of us that is is up for some debate.

[ghug]

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

You getting defensive about it is proving my point, really!

I don't think so.

Do you think that I would normally provide the information to which you refer as town, but as scum I would obfuscate it instead?

Have you actually performed any of the said data analysis?

Are you suggesting that the data holds some damning results that I am deliberately covering up?

I think as town, you'd be a bit more likely to take that next step because you'd find the result interesting.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

Where did he say it would prove that you're scum? This feels like a pretty disingenuous mischaracterization.

He accused me of making an effort to hide information.

Why would I do that as town?

[ghug]

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

Where did he say it would prove that you're scum? This feels like a pretty disingenuous mischaracterization.

He accused me of making an effort to hide information.

Why would I do that as town?

He said it was interesting and continued not voting for you, even in the face of your questionable defensiveness.

[Jamiet99uk]

Where did he say it would prove that you're scum? This feels like a pretty disingenuous mischaracterization.

He accused me of making an effort to hide information.

Why would I do that as town?

He said it was interesting and continued not voting for you, even in the face of your questionable defensiveness.

Not answering my question.

[Foxcastle]

In fact I was just responding to his post in exactly the way you did.

Yes, but only one of us is ghug.

But which of us that is is up for some debate.

Some Eastern sects believe that there is only one soul, that is reincarnated into each life ever lived, that we are all one traveler, that whatever we do to another is actually done both by ourselves to ourselves. So maybe it's not a question of which one of us is ghug, but which ghug is us.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes, but only one of us is ghug.

But which of us that is is up for some debate.

Some Eastern sects believe that there is only one soul, that is reincarnated into each life ever lived, that we are all one traveler, that whatever we do to another is actually done both by ourselves to ourselves. So maybe it's not a question of which one of us is ghug, but which ghug is us.

Sometimes I like to cosplay as Ghug due to my immense admiration for him.

[ghug]

He accused me of making an effort to hide information.

Why would I do that as town?

He said it was interesting and continued not voting for you, even in the face of your questionable defensiveness.

Not answering my question.

Because you're trying to change the subject. I'm answering the question at hand.

Obviously he's accusing you of doing something scummy. Nobody is denying that. My issue is that you're reframing it as a much more intense accusation than it is in an attempt to write it off as absurd. It was something worth noting, and he noted it. Your over the top reaction is also worth noting.

[ghug]

But which of us that is is up for some debate.

Some Eastern sects believe that there is only one soul, that is reincarnated into each life ever lived, that we are all one traveler, that whatever we do to another is actually done both by ourselves to ourselves. So maybe it's not a question of which one of us is ghug, but which ghug is us.

Sometimes I like to cosplay as Ghug due to my immense admiration for him.

Same

[Bonatogether]

In fact I was just responding to his post in exactly the way you did.

Yes, but only one of us is ghug.

Couldn't he just be flailing?

I don't understand what's going on any more