M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

I am also wondering if mafia have a very slim idea of who the 3P might be. If they have made two kills on town, and I’ve gotten blocked the other two nights, then they likely have no idea.

In which case the third party just keeps doing what they’ve been doing by scanning each day.

Sorry, I know that is all probably obvious, but I need to say it out loud and read it to just get around it.

I assume 3p has already scanned and stolen from potential scum food and 3p. Hereon the 3p isn't much use with the swapping.

Maniac

[Hamilton Brian]

No, scratch that. I tracked kgray and they didn't go anywhere. Would Item Copier or Hooker not travel?

If not kgray then Bozo.

bozo is scum cleared due to cop.

Missed that. That was Rivera's claim, right?

[snowy801]

No, scratch that. I tracked kgray and they didn't go anywhere. Would Item Copier or Hooker not travel?

If not kgray then Bozo.

bozo is scum cleared due to cop.

Missed that. That was Rivera's claim, right?

Nay, damo scanned bozo. I trust damo with my life!

[damo666]

I am also wondering if mafia have a very slim idea of who the 3P might be. If they have made two kills on town, and I’ve gotten blocked the other two nights, then they likely have no idea.

In which case the third party just keeps doing what they’ve been doing by scanning each day.

Sorry, I know that is all probably obvious, but I need to say it out loud and read it to just get around it.

I assume 3p has already scanned and stolen from potential scum food and Maniac. Hereon the 3p scan isn't much use with the swapping.

correction

[kgray]

im actually getting concerned that macca has seemingly no opinion on anything anymore this game and is just trying to sheep me.

Vastly vastly different from the effort their last 2 towngames had.

We shouldve pooked that bear when we had its honey

Do you think that Macca is scum?

Skimming and was gonna wait time post until I caught up but just wanted to flag this post. It’s real yucky.

[kgray]

I'd like everyone's best guesses at 3P and 2 scums. No waffles, no maybe any of these people could be it.

One 3P, 2 scum names. Please.

I already have Vecna, damo, bozo's, though feel free to repeat/change.

Scum: food, Jamie
3P: maniac

[kgray]

Plan's okay, from a pure probabilistic point of view. I think it doesn't account for reads at all, which is somewhat silly on D5.

My personal proposition is that we are in fact unlikely to be in a circumstance where literally the scum team threw the chicken and Pico at Vecna, and they're one correct guess of winning tonight.

Which means we have more time to figure out 3P without missing, and therefore the usage (or lack thereof) of Hot Salsa will much better inform our decision tomorrow.

I do not believe foodcoats nor Vecna to be 3P or mafia.

This all being said, I don't want to "commit" to a plan quite so early, as it limits player initiative and dulls the information we can gain from their arguments and proposals.

If you think neither Vecna nor Food are scum of any kind then who is third man with Maniac and Jamie?

If Bozo is 3p he is nowhere near winning so not an issue. Who else? Brian? If scum is Maniac Brian then Jamie prob 3p. I don't like killing Jamie today jic Vecna is 3p.

Kgray can be scum.

Say it with me.

Kgray can be scum.

Is it omgus that this just seems like you’re grasping at straws to find someone to push?

[kgray]

I am also wondering if mafia have a very slim idea of who the 3P might be. If they have made two kills on town, and I’ve gotten blocked the other two nights, then they likely have no idea.

In which case the third party just keeps doing what they’ve been doing by scanning each day.

Sorry, I know that is all probably obvious, but I need to say it out loud and read it to just get around it.

I dont often say this but....scumslip?

Explain please?

[snowy801]

If they have made two kills on town, and I’ve gotten blocked the other two nights

I dont often say this but....scumslip?

Explain please?

"I've gotten blocked"

As in, my attempts to kill were blocked.

[kgray]

I am also wondering if mafia have a very slim idea of who the 3P might be. If they have made two kills on town, and I’ve gotten blocked the other two nights, then they likely have no idea.

In which case the third party just keeps doing what they’ve been doing by scanning each day.

Sorry, I know that is all probably obvious, but I need to say it out loud and read it to just get around it.

I dont often say this but....scumslip?

Explain please?

Oh, never mind. Is that a scum slip though? If he really was RB’d then that’s his real town perspective...?

[snowy801]

Oh, never mind. Is that a scum slip though? If he really was RB’d then that’s his real town perspective...?

At no point was Hamilton Brian ever roleblocked.

N1: damo (Vecna), ghug (scum)
N2: worTom (Vecna), Snowy (scum)
N3: snowy (scum)
N4: nobody (presumably Bob)

[kgray]

I am also wondering if mafia have a very slim idea of who the 3P might be. If they have made two kills on town, and I’ve gotten blocked the other two nights, then they likely have no idea.

In which case the third party just keeps doing what they’ve been doing by scanning each day.

Sorry, I know that is all probably obvious, but I need to say it out loud and read it to just get around it.

I assume 3p has already scanned and stolen from potential scum food and 3p. Hereon the 3p isn't much use with the swapping.

Ugh; stupid text to speech on the phone. Should have read "they've gotten blocked."

Lol never mind again. This is pretty yikes from Hamilton. And I could totally see Tom knowing he’d be the DK and trying to wifom Hamilton into not!mafia status

[kgray]

Oh, never mind. Is that a scum slip though? If he really was RB’d then that’s his real town perspective...?

At no point was Hamilton Brian ever roleblocked.

N1: damo (Vecna), ghug (scum)
N2: worTom (Vecna), Snowy (scum)
N3: snowy (scum)
N4: nobody (presumably Bob)

Yeah, okay. I wasn’t sure if Vecna had RB’d him.

But Vecna RB’d Tom when there was no NK, not Hamilton... so I’m still not sure if this is a scumslip.

[kgray]

Well this is probably mostly confbias because the pool is so small, and I’m basically trusting everything damo and snowy say, but I think Jamie’s probably scum (annoyed that he can’t defend against snowy’s gut reads - it’s frustrating when you can’t defend yourself as scum. Also the eod where he almost died wasn’t very town!jamie imo) and I’m sus of food pushing my slot because scum obviously can’t push the clears, and me not being around much makes me an easy target.

I’m a bit sus of Macca too, they’re saying they’re just “bad” as town but generally they have their own reads even if they’re just gut reads. I’m not seeing much of that, and I think they’d give items to bob as either alignment.

[kgray]

I also think Vecna pretty much has to be town and although I’ve said that before and lost for it, at least this time there’s mech reasons to back that conclusion up.

[kgray]

I’ll ##vote Jamie for now, but I’ll sheep damo’s plan if that’s what we go with. Or I’ll just sheep damo or snowy.

[kgray]

Brian you aren’t being as chatty as normal. What’s up with that? Where are your long, pondering, questioning posts as you try to figure out what’s going on?

[snowy801]

I also think Vecna pretty much has to be town and although I’ve said that before and lost for it, at least this time there’s mech reasons to back that conclusion up.

Hey kgray, how do you feel about the prospect of hot salsa'ing Vecna rather than food/Maniac for the purpose of gaining an extra clear for end game? Or is it better to shoot for a 3P target and eliminate where there is most doubt, you think?

[foodcoats]

If you think neither Vecna nor Food are scum of any kind then who is third man with Maniac and Jamie?

If Bozo is 3p he is nowhere near winning so not an issue. Who else? Brian? If scum is Maniac Brian then Jamie prob 3p. I don't like killing Jamie today jic Vecna is 3p.

Kgray can be scum.

Say it with me.

Kgray can be scum.

Is it omgus that this just seems like you’re grasping at straws to find someone to push?

No, I have explained elsewhere how your position can be in a scum POE. I also don’t think lfischl or brainbomb did anything particularly townie.

[foodcoats]

Well this is probably mostly confbias because the pool is so small, and I’m basically trusting everything damo and snowy say, but I think Jamie’s probably scum (annoyed that he can’t defend against snowy’s gut reads - it’s frustrating when you can’t defend yourself as scum. Also the eod where he almost died wasn’t very town!jamie imo) and I’m sus of food pushing my slot because scum obviously can’t push the clears, and me not being around much makes me an easy target.

I’m a bit sus of Macca too, they’re saying they’re just “bad” as town but generally they have their own reads even if they’re just gut reads. I’m not seeing much of that, and I think they’d give items to bob as either alignment.

I’m not pushing you, there is basically no way you’d be killed today. I’m emphatic that we don’t clear your position based on Vecna’s faulty logic that the item cop would have been active N3 and therefore tracked. The copier died D2 and therefore I think the item cop would hang out and not use their power N3 - or at least, it is entirely possible.