M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Jamiet, you are in the wrong here.
Not by a lot - I suspect this entire thing is just a stupid ass miscommunication - but ghug has only spoken what he in good faith believes to be truth, so far as I can tell, and it did not involve you answering questions before asked.

Let's just move on, shall we? ghug seems to be getting his wish.

[Jamiet99uk]

that 3P party push from jamie is just ridiculous, even as a non-native english speaker I'm confident that refers to a 'neutral party between the two of ghug and jamie'.

To the consolidation of votes regarding jamie: so I have the choice of a lurker, one of my bigger mafia reads, one of my highest townreads and a townish one; or go yolo solo.

So realistically, lfishl or jamie. While I do not like lfishls game, I think with what he has shown, jamie has a higher percentage of being mafia. ##vote jamie

furthermore, I want you all to inform, that I have today and tomorrow nightshift, so I'll miss EoD and EoN. I'll prepare myself to go to work right now and have a look back here before I go.

Why am I one of your top scumreads, exactly?

Your posts about your scumread on me really don't make that clear.

[Jamiet99uk]

I bet there are at least two scum on my wagon at this point.

I have no choice but to ##VOTE LFISCHL , but I'm happy to do so because he's lurking and contributing nothing, and there's usually at least one serious lurker on any scum team.

[Vecna]

##vote Kakkarrotto

Here little kitty-kitty

nyaa~♥ *purrs*

Other people i town read: snowy, HB, Vecna, Bob, Ghug.

People I could vote for today Jamie, lfischl, WorceJ, kakarroto (possibly, they were null but snowy has me questioning that read).

from your posts I gathered I got the impression you see me more like a misguided town than anything else, if I'm not wrong of course. Care you explain/deepen your thoughts on (at least my but better all) your vote pool?

purring always gets rewarded with minor townreads. Here, have one

[snowy801]

Last minute - someone sell me again on the Jamiet wagon
I've sort of un-sold myself over the last day, but it appears I must now make a decision.

@ghug
@Vecna

maybe you two have something

[Jamiet99uk]

Kakk's case on me appears to be that I'm allegedly lying about the Chicken.

Since I can prove that this claim is true, that's a fucking awful reason for voting me.

[snowy801]

I also note that at this time, if fish votes Jamiet and I vote fish, the vote will tie. Advance warning for those who want to consider what to do when that happens.

Or we could flash worcej, I'm always down for that

[ghug]

I can only conclude that I didn't immediately register the question in your first post.

Clearly being kept waiting for 10 pages to be acknowledged is a terrible insult to a god-tier player such as yourself and I profusely apologise.

I told myself I would drop it, but you're ignoring the point. Again! The answer you've given to the question isn't an answer, because it cites a response made after the question was asked, whereas when I asked the question I was clearly asking about responses before the question was asked, since those were the only ones that existed.

What?

How am I supposed to respond to a question before it is asked?

You appear to be going nuts at this point, mate.

Yeah, I'm back to "Jamie's trolling".

Thanks. Bye.

[Jamiet99uk]

I told myself I would drop it, but you're ignoring the point. Again! The answer you've given to the question isn't an answer, because it cites a response made after the question was asked, whereas when I asked the question I was clearly asking about responses before the question was asked, since those were the only ones that existed.

What?

How am I supposed to respond to a question before it is asked?

You appear to be going nuts at this point, mate.

Yeah, I'm back to "Jamie's trolling".

Thanks. Bye.

I am not trolling.

You need to communicate better.

[Jamiet99uk]

This is now exactly the memory I have of scum!Hellenic Riot pretending to be angry and pushing mis-kills by aggressively accusing the target of not answering a question when in fact the "question" was either loaded or deliberately obtuse.

[ghug]

Last minute - someone sell me again on the Jamiet wagon
I've sort of un-sold myself over the last day, but it appears I must now make a decision.

@ghug
@Vecna

maybe you two have something

1. He's now kind of explained everything, but his thought processes and conclusions around the chicken claim still don't make a whole lot of sense from a town perspective
2. He's spent much of the day being deliberately obtuse.
3. Jamie's generally got more fire in pushing his scumreads. He came in with the whole "ghug is 3P" thing, but has honestly been pretty milquetoast in that push, and I'm not impressed with the bozo stuff either.

[Vecna]

I'm not sure, but the vibes are definitely south of good, and he's definitely not a bad scum player.

So you dont think my scumgame suffers because everyone recognizes my townplay, and gets nervous if im still alive day3?

What do you think it would say about ghug, based on this answer? I'm curious what the intend of such a question might be.

Its just banter really, but Ghug keeping on doing his whole suspicion thing just because he thinks im willfully misrepresenting my scumgame or whatever, does warrant some attention.

[ghug]

I also note that at this time, if fish votes Jamiet and I vote fish, the vote will tie. Advance warning for those who want to consider what to do when that happens.

Or we could flash worcej, I'm always down for that

The vote is tied now if Jamie is telling the truth about the chicken, which I believe the is.

[Vecna]

Or we could DK Vecna because he survived until D2.

[snowy801]

I also note that at this time, if fish votes Jamiet and I vote fish, the vote will tie. Advance warning for those who want to consider what to do when that happens.

Or we could flash worcej, I'm always down for that

The vote is tied now if Jamie is telling the truth about the chicken, which I believe the is.

Yes, but as Bob and Macca are sleeping and fish has only one option, I'm just mapping out the picture for people in advance. I've seen what happens when I don't quite recently

[Jamiet99uk]

Last minute - someone sell me again on the Jamiet wagon
I've sort of un-sold myself over the last day, but it appears I must now make a decision.

@ghug
@Vecna

maybe you two have something

1. He's now kind of explained everything, but his thought processes and conclusions around the chicken claim still don't make a whole lot of sense from a town perspective
2. He's spent much of the day being deliberately obtuse.
3. Jamie's generally got more fire in pushing his scumreads. He came in with the whole "ghug is 3P" thing, but has honestly been pretty milquetoast in that push, and I'm not impressed with the bozo stuff either.

With regard to (3) I'm not convinced you're the 3P anymore. I think I've said that but just to clarify.

Bozo is still a scumread for me and I would be totally happy to flip him today but people keep dropping off that wagon

[snowy801]

Or we could DK Vecna because he survived until D2.

Oh Vecna of the vent, share your wisdom
What is the truth of this game

[rdrivera2005]

but do you think Ghug is -playing well- this game?

If he is town, no. If he is scum with Jamiet also no. If he is scum and Jamiet town, maybe, it will depend on the rest of the scumteam, but probably yes. If he is 3P I don´t know, probably yes as I don´t see him as a likely DK soon.

Would you vote for him?
Why or why not?

Do you still think that I am scum?
If so, why?

I could vote for him, but not today, I still think he is more likely 3P then scum.

About you, I still think you are scum, otherwise I won´t be voting you, but I confess I am starting to have doubts.

[Vecna]

Last minute - someone sell me again on the Jamiet wagon
I've sort of un-sold myself over the last day, but it appears I must now make a decision.

@ghug
@Vecna

maybe you two have something

Im back and forth all the time as well. I think ive made some good observations, about jamiet making a bunch of too easy assumptions early during the day regarding the Ghug RB that potentially hints at a scum mindset and that RB indeed being done by a scumteam assuming 3p. The Jamiet/ghug theater argument can work regardless of any allignment distribution.

Its also a bit of a consensus-approach at this point for me. I havent slept in ~40h so im recognizing the fact that nearly everyone im townreading wants this daykill. That probably means it has to happen at some point, either for them to be proven right, or to just have to reassess their shit. On top of that, my main other dodgy suspects have now started nervously trying to dissuade the wagon.

[snowy801]

All fair points

Let's see if fish will deign to grace our lowly selves with their presence