M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Wait hang on, I just had a thought

Should whoever got bona's items claim, if they are town?

Items?
Plural?

[Hamilton Brian]

Wait hang on, I just had a thought

Should whoever got bona's items claim, if they are town?

3P could chime in and declare themselves town by doing so.

[snowy801]

Wait hang on, I just had a thought

Should whoever got bona's items claim, if they are town?

3P could chime in and declare themselves town by doing so.

Yes, but would a 3P draw attention to themselves by saying they got the item, because chances of them randomly getting the wagon is much higher than anyone else?

[Maniac]

My best guess is he noticed he's kept putting his foot in his mouth and is deliberately invoking his cantankerous image to avoid digging a deeper hole, whilst simultaneously trying not to appear like he's running away.

But hey, scene change:

Anyone have any opinions on that Kakarroto guy? How about you, Maniac? Welcome to the game.

Kakarroto is interesting. He voted for me for allegedly responding to their post, and has not moved off me since. No thought development or even checking why they originally voted for me. It's quite odd, but not sure if it's alignment indicative. I do like their humour. It is ironic that he calls out lfischl and Macca for being lurkers when he has so few posts.

[snowy801]

I figure one of the scum motivations for shooting celaph is he's in a pool of people who could have two items.

[bozotheclown]

Ah, I happen to know nobody was saving anyone, as I was the deciding vote. I would not say it is fair to characterize ghug, celaph and Maniac's literal last minute vote to avoid a draw as a "saving throw" either, so while anyone is free to suspect me it borders conspiracy to look further, I think.

What did just pique my interest is that the main counterwagon, Maniac, has been around for at least 15 minutes EoD but only throw on his bona vote literal last second. I am not sure if that bodes well on him sticking to his scum read, or shows the characteristic cowardice of a scum player not looking to draw attention especially given that bona flipped town.

Though in his defense, he does comment "there's only 3 minutes left?" 3 minutes out, but at the same time I question how hard it is to keep track of time near EoD.

Why did you move your vote from damo to Bonatogether after the previous 2 votes were for damo, bring him to a tie for the lead wagon?

[rdrivera2005]

Im not so sure im still scumreading Jamiet as heavily. He's done a few things that lead me to question the read.

Rdrivera's selective pop in, instantly finding my quote and replying to 1 other post.....really doesnt feel like a natural way of catching up. He also doenst have any takes. It better change at some point, but for now im a bit suspicious.

This is bullshit. I was reading, found a post talking about me and answered it. I have been doing this since D1, so I didn't selectively pick your post.

And why you are not scumreading Jamiet anymore? I find his posts even more scummier. Jamiet town indignation feels natural, this game he looks like a bad copy of this, even him telling he is tryng to play differently.

[Maniac]

Wait hang on, I just had a thought

Should whoever got bona's items claim, if they are town?

NO, it makes them a target for a NK as they have an additional item that scum get when they are killed,

[Jamiet99uk]

I figure one of the scum motivations for shooting celaph is he's in a pool of people who could have two items.

Ok, but how come you think Bona had more than one item?

[rdrivera2005]

Why is Rdrivera such a lurker in this game?

Bozo should come out of his brightly painted tent, as well. I still suspect him.

Why you keep insisting on this? I have already answered I am having a busy week, I have a 4 hours meeting ay afternoon every day from Monday to Friday this week and still have to do all my other usual activities at work, which means I am working 10 hours a day at least and have also my other activities like family and playing tennis.
You can believe it or not but keeping pushing this, specially after I start to scumread you seems dodgy.

##vote Jamiet by the way

[Hamilton Brian]

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3P could chime in and declare themselves town by doing so.

Yes, but would a 3P draw attention to themselves by saying they got the item, because chances of them randomly getting the wagon is much higher than anyone else?

Fair point!

[Hamilton Brian]

Wait hang on, I just had a thought

Should whoever got bona's items claim, if they are town?

NO, it makes them a target for a NK as they have an additional item that scum get when they are killed,

Even better point. Would mafia!Maniac respond like this?

[snowy801]

Why did you move your vote from damo to Bonatogether after the previous 2 votes were for damo, bring him to a tie for the lead wagon?

We spent too long at 3-3-3, and I always tend to believe a complacent D1 EoD means TvT.

I was actually going to hop off of Bona and look for alternatives, but nothing appeared and the rest, as they say, was history.

[snowy801]

And why you are not scumreading Jamiet anymore? I find his posts even more scummier. Jamiet town indignation feels natural, this game he looks like a bad copy of this, even him telling he is tryng to play differently.

To be fair, Jamiet claimed he would try to play differently before he drew his card.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why is Rdrivera such a lurker in this game?

Bozo should come out of his brightly painted tent, as well. I still suspect him.

Why you keep insisting on this? I have already answered I am having a busy week, I have a 4 hours meeting ay afternoon every day from Monday to Friday this week and still have to do all my other usual activities at work, which means I am working 10 hours a day at least and have also my other activities like family and playing tennis.
You can believe it or not but keeping pushing this, specially after I start to scumread you seems dodgy.

##vote Jamiet by the way

Weak.

[snowy801]

Will not lie, I honestly agree that is kind of weak.

Maybe it's not fair, but I've come to expect better of you rdrivera.

[ghug]

Ah, I happen to know nobody was saving anyone, as I was the deciding vote. I would not say it is fair to characterize ghug, celaph and Maniac's literal last minute vote to avoid a draw as a "saving throw" either, so while anyone is free to suspect me it borders conspiracy to look further, I think.

What did just pique my interest is that the main counterwagon, Maniac, has been around for at least 15 minutes EoD but only throw on his bona vote literal last second. I am not sure if that bodes well on him sticking to his scum read, or shows the characteristic cowardice of a scum player not looking to draw attention especially given that bona flipped town.

Though in his defense, he does comment "there's only 3 minutes left?" 3 minutes out, but at the same time I question how hard it is to keep track of time near EoD.

Couple thoughts here:
1. I wouldn't give last second voters a total pass. Consolidating on the town wagon prevents a YOLO swing without looking terrible.
2. The day was shorter than usual and EoD was at a weird time for webDip.
3. Maniac's been known to do weird things like self vote to ensure his own death at deadlines.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Snowy: Could you answer the question about why you suggested Bona had more than one item?

[ghug]

@jee-hug

What was your thought process when you made your opening post and fake-claimed chicken? Why did you do that?

I scanned through the setup info given directly in the thread and picked the first mention of meat.

So, you had determined right away that you were going to start the game with a fair item claim?

Why?

Seemed like fun.

[snowy801]

My best guess is he noticed he's kept putting his foot in his mouth and is deliberately invoking his cantankerous image to avoid digging a deeper hole, whilst simultaneously trying not to appear like he's running away.

But hey, scene change:

Anyone have any opinions on that Kakarroto guy? How about you, Maniac? Welcome to the game.

Kakarroto is interesting. He voted for me for allegedly responding to their post, and has not moved off me since. No thought development or even checking why they originally voted for me. It's quite odd, but not sure if it's alignment indicative. I do like their humour. It is ironic that he calls out lfischl and Macca for being lurkers when he has so few posts.

How do you feel about Kaka popping his head near EoD and saying "glad people are following me" on you as though he had a solid reason to keep voting you, even if his original vote was (so far as I can tell) a joke?

How do you further feel him saying "let's pick up where we left off" start of day today, instead of you know, literally taking anything else that happened in the game into account?

How do you last feel about Kaka dismissing the first four people who were on Bona's wagon as possibly being scummy as part of his "let's scum-analyze anyone who voted Bona" initiative?