M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

In one of the previous games they were scum together, this also happened in scum chat:

Jamiet: Sorry Ghug, I caught you in a lie and now I have to tunnel you for it incessantly
Ghug: Damnit jamiet, go easy on me
D2: Ghug has been killed, people townread jamiet. Then he gets caught

It feels like one of these again

Pretty accurate.

[Vecna]

i really dislike jamies opening here
he seems to think he had a slam dunk on ghug as 3p because ghug jokingly fakeclaimed chicken earlier in the game?
seriously, how do you just see that and roll with it for 30 hours without questioning it once?
there just seems to be a super fake dynamic between ghug and jamie and i suspect at least one scum in there tbh

I love how Bob is using a slightly different avenue, but is reaching the same conclusions

[Vecna]

So let's put it out there to town. Bob does bring up a good point; I do tend to like the questions that Snowy asks in the games we have been in together. That I misread him most of the time is mostly on me.

Is Snowy being good town so far? If yes, why? If not, why not?

Hell, I'll subject myself to it as well. Am I being good town so far? If yes, why? If not, why not?

I hear a faint voice in my head telling me I am looking at all the wrong people.

OK; keep calm, keep respectful, try to put my best foot forward.

Real, or knowing he has to do this to fit the town playstyle?

I really keep feeling its not as convincing as it has been in the past

[Vecna]

worcej! rdr! vecna! damo!
you have more experience with ghug and jamie than i do
would you say the dynamic between them is unusually exaggerated, or are they normally this angry about next to nothing?
does anything strike you as off about it?

Just to be completely frank; Theyre always weird

[BobMcBob]

i mean if vecnas seeing it too i see very little reason to hold off on a vote here
##vote jamie
im really vibing with vecna here
and the fact that he has notably different reasons for reaching the same result makes me feel better about it
either that or hes super good at pocketing me

[Vecna]

I think you're doing fine, Brian. You were just a bit eh, how do you say, absent on day 1. Keep doing what you're doing.

I do think you should try to identify whatever impulse let you to place two nonposters (Macca, Kaka) as town and two others (Maniac, lfischl) as scum.

@lfischl personally I think neither, but the bozo suspicion seems to persist with curious viscosity. Then again, so did bona's, so I'm not sure how much I should read into that.

Snowy feels so strange this game as well. Id have expected him to pick up a much more of a leader role by now, but he's just sitting there appeasing people instead of trying to figure out allignments. He's not aggresively putting his opinion out there, just because 'he knows better and has figured the game out'. And just doing weird gimmicks to try and prod certain people (which I like, but dont really feel are allignment indicative in any way).

[BobMcBob]

So let's put it out there to town. Bob does bring up a good point; I do tend to like the questions that Snowy asks in the games we have been in together. That I misread him most of the time is mostly on me.

Is Snowy being good town so far? If yes, why? If not, why not?

Hell, I'll subject myself to it as well. Am I being good town so far? If yes, why? If not, why not?

I hear a faint voice in my head telling me I am looking at all the wrong people.

OK; keep calm, keep respectful, try to put my best foot forward.

Real, or knowing he has to do this to fit the town playstyle?

I really keep feeling its not as convincing as it has been in the past

its funny, im actually finding hb pretty towny this game
i also have a bad habit of scumreading town!hb if memory serves

[BobMcBob]

let me just say i really hope this is not just scum!vecna pocketing me
because if he is, hes doing a super good job

[Jamiet99uk]

i really dislike jamies opening here
he seems to think he had a slam dunk on ghug as 3p because ghug jokingly fakeclaimed chicken earlier in the game?
seriously, how do you just see that and roll with it for 30 hours without questioning it once?
there just seems to be a super fake dynamic between ghug and jamie and i suspect at least one scum in there tbh

The answer to this question was that if I was right, I didn't want to immediately hand 3P Ghug exactly what he wanted.

[Jamiet99uk]

worcej! rdr! vecna! damo!
you have more experience with ghug and jamie than i do
would you say the dynamic between them is unusually exaggerated, or are they normally this angry about next to nothing?
does anything strike you as off about it?

Just to be completely frank; Theyre always weird

He's right.
I'm kinda weird.
Ghug is a complete oddball.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why do people keep purporting that I am "angry"?

Disagreeing with people, finding them scummy, disliking how they play, etc - these are all simply normal things that happen when we play this crazy old game. I'm not "angry" with Ghug or Bozo or anyone else, and I'm not sure why that's being suggested.

[damo666]

The odd thing is, if the Scum also suspected Ghug was 3P, why only roleblock him, and not kill him?

Weird.

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

[damo666]

worcej! rdr! vecna! damo!
you have more experience with ghug and jamie than i do
would you say the dynamic between them is unusually exaggerated, or are they normally this angry about next to nothing?
does anything strike you as off about it?

Just to be completely frank; Theyre always weird

He's right.
I'm kinda weird.
Ghug is a complete oddball.

Oh yes.

[damo666]

As celaph was a Bona voter it would suggest Bona's item did not immediately go to a scum member.

[Jamiet99uk]

The odd thing is, if the Scum also suspected Ghug was 3P, why only roleblock him, and not kill him?

Weird.

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

I just had to double-check this, but you're wrong, Damo.

Scum have a standard Hooker.

It's the Taco person. Here is the role information from page 1:

Agent of Taco Bell (Hooker)
Ability: hooker
Role PM: Although Taco Bell is not a direct competitor, it still maintains an interest in bringing Chipotle down a peg. As an agent of Taco Bell, you know the secrets of tainting food to cause gastrointestinal distress. Each night, you may tamper with someone’s food. This player will fall ill and be unable to use any item or ability (passive abilities still work). Since he has never eaten Taco Bell, Chaqa is not immune to this and can be roleblocked this way. You win when Chaqa has been eliminated and nothing can stop your team from winning.

That's not a JOAT, it's a normal hooker-type role.

However it's very interesting that Damo is claiming RB as well.

[damo666]

@Ghug, if Jamie’s wagon runs away would you be prepared to step off it. On the off chance Scum!Jamie is right and you’re the 3P.

What an odd question.

Surely Ghug already knows whether he is the 3P or not?

Jamie don't be dense. Maniac is asking potential 3p ghug to be off wagon to avoid getting your item.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo normally pays attention to the mechanics so that's a strange error for Damo to make.

[damo666]

The odd thing is, if the Scum also suspected Ghug was 3P, why only roleblock him, and not kill him?

Weird.

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

I just had to double-check this, but you're wrong, Damo.

Scum have a standard Hooker.

It's the Taco person. Here is the role information from page 1:

Agent of Taco Bell (Hooker)
Ability: hooker
Role PM: Although Taco Bell is not a direct competitor, it still maintains an interest in bringing Chipotle down a peg. As an agent of Taco Bell, you know the secrets of tainting food to cause gastrointestinal distress. Each night, you may tamper with someone’s food. This player will fall ill and be unable to use any item or ability (passive abilities still work). Since he has never eaten Taco Bell, Chaqa is not immune to this and can be roleblocked this way. You win when Chaqa has been eliminated and nothing can stop your team from winning.

That's not a JOAT, it's a normal hooker-type role.

However it's very interesting that Damo is claiming RB as well.

I was going off Snowy's chart. Sorry. Is the chart wrong/incomplete? I don't have time to check at mo.

[BobMcBob]

The odd thing is, if the Scum also suspected Ghug was 3P, why only roleblock him, and not kill him?

Weird.

The only scum roleblock is JOAT. Would JOAT RB N1???

The other RB is town/3p only.

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED.

Something is rotten.

@ghug your commentary is required asap

mafia has an infinite roleblocker?
joat cant rb?
where are you getting this info from?

[damo666]

Damo normally pays attention to the mechanics so that's a strange error for Damo to make.

Am on phone. Chaqa's doc impossible to read. Hence using Snowy chart.