M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

@ Kakarroto, cel​aph, ghug, HB, lfischl, rdrivera, Macca, Maniac, Jamie, foodcoats, worcej: Why did you ignore my survey request?

Because you're just asking for a readlist and ranking exercise to poke holes at instead of just asking questions at people directly. Also, these lists are mostly used by low-effort people, which we shouldn't simply support, to copy and not make genuine reads.

I put my effort into focusing on the people I actually think are scum and people who are showing town behaviors. There is a list of nulls, like HB, Kakk, fisch, and food, that are irrelevant to list in an order. Otherwise, I was pretty explicit on others where I stand.

[BobMcBob]

Why?

snowy, i explained
bona, i explained
bozo, i think i may have explained, it was pretty similar to vecnas thoughts
you were tacked on mainly for bona interactions although thats moot now obviously
food can take the next slot now

What bona interactions are you referencing?

i swear i just spent 5 minutes trying to find the posts where bona interacted with bozo
it was the ones where he was defending you
not particularly strong, but i needed a fourth one on my scumteam list and i was tossing up between you and food

[worcej]

"Opportunistic" and "lacking merit" are two meaningless terms scum like to use when fabricating reads.

I guess I am always scum then, because I use those terms all the time.

FWIW - Tunneling is your scum game and you're all in at grabbing anything I do and labeling it as scum.

[snowy801]

Bob you don't need to solve the game immediately, all on your lonesome.

Pretty classic mistake I see a lot of newbies make. It turns into you getting attached to your solutions, and eventually throwing.

Also you guys must think HB is the dumbest brick on the planet if you're willing to attribute this 'slip' as a town tell. I mean sure, think it isn't a scum fabrication if you want, but geez.

[Jamiet99uk]

@ Kakarroto, cel​aph, ghug, HB, lfischl, rdrivera, Macca, Maniac, Jamie, foodcoats, worcej: Why did you ignore my survey request?

Because you're just asking for a readlist and ranking exercise to poke holes at instead of just asking questions at people directly. Also, these lists are mostly used by low-effort people, which we shouldn't simply support, to copy and not make genuine reads.

I put my effort into focusing on the people I actually think are scum and people who are showing town behaviors. There is a list of nulls, like HB, Kakk, fisch, and food, that are irrelevant to list in an order. Otherwise, I was pretty explicit on others where I stand.

@Worcej: You call Foodcoats a null. Bozo had Foodcoats as his #2 scumread. What do you make of that?

[worcej]

There was not much participation in my survey request. The mafia have a good reason to avoid going on record with a full reads ranking, but too many town ignored my request and let the mafia off the hook.

Here was my list:

1. bozo
2. Kakarroto
3. BobMcBob
4. cel​aph
5. Bonatogether
6. Vecna
7. ghug
8. HB
9. lfischl
10. damo
11. rdrivera
12. Macca
13. snowy
​14. Maniac
15. Jamie
16. foodcoats
17. worcej

Numbers 14, 15, and 17 all started scum reading me after I posted this list, I don't think that was a coincidence.

i would say worcej would scumread you regardless, it had nothing to do with your list
jamies reason for disliking your list feels like a very jamie reason, i see no problem there
and maniac had a decent reason, which had nothing to do with your list
its a valiant attempt to pre-emptively discredit the main people scumreading you, but it really doesnt count for much

FWIW - Bob is paying attention.

[BobMcBob]

Bob you don't need to solve the game immediately, all on your lonesome.

Pretty classic mistake I see a lot of newbies make. It turns into you getting attached to your solutions, and eventually throwing.

Also you guys must think HB is the dumbest brick on the planet if you're willing to attribute this 'slip' as a town tell. I mean sure, think it isn't a scum fabrication if you want, but geez.

i think you misinterpret the purpose of my day 1 scumteam
its basically a self-important top x reads list
also hbs slip must be either a town who doesnt know the setup super well, or a scum pretending not to
otherwise its a scum who really doesnt know the setup
and the town option seems the most likely here
i dont see how that makes hb dumb

[worcej]

@ Kakarroto, cel​aph, ghug, HB, lfischl, rdrivera, Macca, Maniac, Jamie, foodcoats, worcej: Why did you ignore my survey request?

Because you're just asking for a readlist and ranking exercise to poke holes at instead of just asking questions at people directly. Also, these lists are mostly used by low-effort people, which we shouldn't simply support, to copy and not make genuine reads.

I put my effort into focusing on the people I actually think are scum and people who are showing town behaviors. There is a list of nulls, like HB, Kakk, fisch, and food, that are irrelevant to list in an order. Otherwise, I was pretty explicit on others where I stand.

@Worcej: You call Foodcoats a null. Bozo had Foodcoats as his #2 scumread. What do you make of that?

I have zero understanding why bozo has food as a scumread, so I cannot comment there.

For me, I think food is posting at a lurker level (not entirely uncommon for him) and I could follow his maniac voting and his town reads on certain players, notably snowy now, make sense to me. He's null because it's not as committal into the game as I'd like to see yet.

[snowy801]

Bob you don't need to solve the game immediately, all on your lonesome.

Pretty classic mistake I see a lot of newbies make. It turns into you getting attached to your solutions, and eventually throwing.

Also you guys must think HB is the dumbest brick on the planet if you're willing to attribute this 'slip' as a town tell. I mean sure, think it isn't a scum fabrication if you want, but geez.

i think you misinterpret the purpose of my day 1 scumteam
its basically a self-important top x reads list
also hbs slip must be either a town who doesnt know the setup super well, or a scum pretending not to
otherwise its a scum who really doesnt know the setup
and the town option seems the most likely here
i dont see how that makes hb dumb

I warn you nonetheless to not restrict yourself to four possible names. Becoming attached to solutions is a well studied inclination. Whether it be 3 or 6, that flexibility of mind will aid you in the long run.

[worcej]

worcej, why were you death tunneling bozo so hard from the soonest possible opportunity?

I don't think I am?

You could say I am OMGUS'ing bozo and I wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on against it, but I believe he is trying to generate content that he can easily use against people (those lists) and has continued to find more ways to scum me since I made a joke post at Jamie.

I mean, in general, what scum hunting is he doing? How is he engaging with people?

[worcej]

Some thoughts on recent topics:

Bozo - playing his usual game, I think the attacks on him are unjustified. Probably by misguided town rather than malicious scum.

Ghug/Jamie theatrics. No it wasn't.

Jamie being 'off'. Just him working away from home I think.

Lurkers - deffo some scum there.

I disagree with half of this.

[BobMcBob]

worcej, why were you death tunneling bozo so hard from the soonest possible opportunity?

I don't think I am?

You could say I am OMGUS'ing bozo and I wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on against it, but I believe he is trying to generate content that he can easily use against people (those lists) and has continued to find more ways to scum me since I made a joke post at Jamie.

I mean, in general, what scum hunting is he doing? How is he engaging with people?

through lists
via the medium of lists

ftr i agree that bozo looks bad here, but i find it strange that you come in looking for something to vote bozo on, enthusiastically jump on it, refuse to move even after your original point is moot and then immediately find other stuff to fill the gap
seems like tunneling

like sure maybe its just an unfortunate combination of you coming at bozo all guns blazing on nothing and then bozo subsequently being actually scummy, but still

[damo666]

Some thoughts on recent topics:

Bozo - playing his usual game, I think the attacks on him are unjustified. Probably by misguided town rather than malicious scum.

Ghug/Jamie theatrics. No it wasn't.

Jamie being 'off'. Just him working away from home I think.

Lurkers - deffo some scum there.

I disagree with half of this.

The first 2?

[worcej]

I propose a new Bozo style game.

Answer the following: If I were scum who would I NK tonight?

I'll kick off.

If I were scum I would NK Bob.

Interesting...

If I were scum I'd NK snowy.

[snowy801]

No I'm bad. And scummy. Terrible kill, easily misvoted off later.

[Maniac]

If I was scum or d NK Macca just to stop him spamming the thread

[Maniac]

Or d = I’d*

[snowy801]

Taking Chipotle burrito bowl build recommendations

[BobMcBob]

okay, time for me to go soon, so here we go with a big post
like stated earlier, im feeling good about vecna and celaph especially
hb too im feeling pretty good on
bozo im not a fan of
snowy im still not a fan of but im less sold on them now
ghug seems fake, very possibly not town
jamie seems reasonable
damo and worcej i like a reasonable amount, both are showing some decent thought, or thought that i expect from them at least
maniac and food are both really low presence and not too hot
not awful, but not good either
lfischl, rdr and macca all currently exist, but only technically
i like macca a bit but their excuse gives me a little pause
kak is still cool but other than that there isnt enough to make an actual judgement on
i believe thats everyone

[BobMcBob]

Taking Chipotle burrito bowl build recommendations

chicken