M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Wait there were already three votes on bona?

##VOTE Maniac

[foodcoats]

oh, I was unaware of that little bit of pre-game banter. Not sure if it changes too much since he was all justifying it n stuff.

I was not aware of that either, but I still question foodcoats claiming he was "lost".

I’d had a few beers at the time.

[snowy801]

Has anyone considered that it might be Jamiet?

Yes

Really? You weren't just pissed off at him?
What made you scum read him?

[foodcoats]

I don’t find the ghug wagon compelling, but the Bona wagon is interesting from a meta perspective. I’ve only played with Bona once and I don’t see him very scummy here, though. But on balance I think there’s a higher chance Bona would be scum than ghug just on pure randomness and meta tells.

[worcej]

Has anyone considered that it might be Jamiet?

This is one of my issues of bozo’s case on me. He has based it on a possible connection between myself and him yet appears to have abandoned any effort on Jamie.

What made my shitpost actually scummy over any other shitpost? Why is this connection not addressed any further if this was a foundation to any sort of read on me?

[snowy801]

Do we have any concerns that any of our bottom posters will continue to remain so?

13 Hamilton Brian
8 foodcoats
8 Macca
6 Kakarotto
3 Maniac
2 lfischl
1 rdrivera

From recent experience I would probably not be concerned about HB, foodcoats, (and maybe very generously) rdrivera who is low but at least plays.

I recall Maniac being a prolific poster in the past.

Macca, lfischl, Kakarotto, maybe more

Thoughts?

[ghug]

Has anyone considered that it might be Jamiet?

Yes

Really? You weren't just pissed off at him?
What made you scum read him?

Mostly that he completely disappeared after doing nothing useful. It's not a particularly strong read, but he's certainly a possibility.

[celaph]

Wait now I have to know, what is this supposed scum slip you're assuming? Because I can't see it, assuming you understand Macca correctly.

Assuming this is addressed at me. I think the thought is that you didn't know that we had to kill 3p despite it mentioning that we have to kill Chaqa in the role PM.

I struggled with it for all the reasons I mentioned before and on further reflection I think you were also highlighting that the rules didn't say that we couldn't wait until after Chaqa won to kill them.

It's the best I can see, but also why I wanted Macca to call out the post themselves as I may be way off.

[snowy801]

I don’t find the ghug wagon compelling, but the Bona wagon is interesting from a meta perspective. I’ve only played with Bona once and I don’t see him very scummy here, though. But on balance I think there’s a higher chance Bona would be scum than ghug just on pure randomness and meta tells.

What would you say are ghug's meta tells? Do you perceive any here? Or have you noted anyone else observing any such in this game?

[snowy801]

Wait now I have to know, what is this supposed scum slip you're assuming? Because I can't see it, assuming you understand Macca correctly.

Assuming this is addressed at me. I think the thought is that you didn't know that we had to kill 3p despite it mentioning that we have to kill Chaqa in the role PM.

I struggled with it for all the reasons I mentioned before and on further reflection I think you were also highlighting that the rules didn't say that we couldn't wait until after Chaqa won to kill them.

It's the best I can see, but also why I wanted Macca to call out the post themselves as I may be way off.

Oh, it does say that.
In my defense I read the role PM before finishing reading the setup due to Chaqa (the GM)'s extreme procrastination.

[celaph]

caught for the wrong reasons?

Not caught.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but this wording feels scummy. Does town really say that they were not caught?

[snowy801]

caught for the wrong reasons?

Not caught.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but this wording feels scummy. Does town really say that they were not caught?

I dunno, damo's my best guess right now. But I'm hesitant, which usually indicates that they're town, in which case I'm really out of luck.

That's why I'm considering advocating for a lurker policy, but even then I'm not even sure who I'd go for.

[celaph]

@celaph I noted this earlier, but on p13 you have 4 consecutive posts (in my opinion) strongly defending Bob from... not much aggression, honestly.

What would you say made you feel you needed to go out of your way to bat for Bob here, if you did?

Just getting to this now so not sure if you found my previous answer satisfactory, but I'm happy to expand on things if you want.

[celaph]

Had a small aneurysm trying to parse celaph's post. No idea if you were addressing my previous post so again:

@celaph I noted this earlier, but on p13 you have 4 consecutive posts (in my opinion) strongly defending Bob from... not much aggression, honestly.

What would you say made you feel you needed to go out of your way to bat for Bob here, if you did?

My apologies Snowy. At least currently I'm just replying to things as I've gotten to them without looking at what is happening as I post.

[snowy801]

Uh, I figured that was the answer but if you want to elaborate you don't have to wait on me, all up to you.

[celaph]

Not caught.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but this wording feels scummy. Does town really say that they were not caught?

I dunno, damo's my best guess right now. But I'm hesitant, which usually indicates that they're town, in which case I'm really out of luck.

That's why I'm considering advocating for a lurker policy, but even then I'm not even sure who I'd go for.

I'll join you on ##vote Damo.

Of the lurkers I don't want to kill rdr, Macca, and Kak. The latter two I've spoken about and the former purely for meta reasons.

The Maniac wagon I feel incredibly meh about. I struggle to see mafia letting town pick the scum lurker out of the batch.

[rdrivera2005]

What about worcej's message made Thinkarroto see a ghug worcej pairing?

well there was that game where ghug and worcej were together maf and they were cozy friendly squeeky nice with each other, that felt the same way and also I tried to make my idea go ... but yeah, now with the read up it doesn't look as cozy between the two of them as I first read into it.

I'm trying to not be a pot-stirrer unless I am passionately opposed to something someone is doing.

Who wants to make some clown soup with me?

I don't feel the same scum vibe from Bozo I got last game. Not a solid town read but I don't want to kill him D1.

[celaph]

Uh, I figured that was the answer but if you want to elaborate you don't have to wait on me, all up to you.

Nah, I'm lazy and should get back to work for now. Wasn't sure if there was confusion that I should clear up.

[Hamilton Brian]

I feel like my early gut is always wrong in this game. If I feel like Snowy, Bona, and Bozo are my strongest towns...then the reverse reality would actually be true.

[rdrivera2005]

Hi fellow townies and some bad guys.

I just missed the game start and have a busy day so don't expect much. Will try to fulfill at least the basic requirements and a cast a vote.

Hi rdr.

Don't forget, this game has a 5 post per day minimum requirement.

I am well aware of it, even the GM remembered me of this.

Why are you so interested on me?