M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

I changed my mind, I think it would be advantageous for town to mass claim items, because I think we would have a high probability of catching the 3P before he gets his required items. However, I am confident that it would be impossible to get a consensus on this.

Ah. Here it is.

##vote bozo

scummy

To be clear, this is NAI.

I'll make it explicitly clearer - I think constantly forcing games into these mass claim arguments is not fun and if I would've known it would devolve to this situation once again then I would've retracted my signup to the game.

[Vecna]

Actually I’ll sheep snowy instead

##VOTE Vecna

Baah baah

Why snowy? It looks like you are trying to pocket him.

Bona and snowy are two on people that I’ve aggressively miskilled as town.

Also I think they both have good reads in general.

Also I didn’t want to inflate the ghug wagon so sheeped my other shepherd.

What made you believe snowies vote on me was serious, as opposed to just being part of the joke phase? He didnt formalize a read on me whatsoever, yet youre now saying you sheeping him because you think he has good reads?

iffy

[Vecna]

list of fully legit reads, this has never gotten me daykilled before
kakarroto is cool, can we keep him
bona is cool, and also has a decent chance of not being town, but still cool
snowy is not cool, don't like snowy
jamie is cool, in temper at least
bozo seems... like bozo
vecna will shortly proceed to be mad at me because this post is uncool
foodcoats is slightly cool
macca i need a little bit more time on, and more content from, seems very normal so far

I actually like such posts. I like your Bona take (because youre one of the few others that thinks that besides me).

I dont know why you think foodcoats is slightly cool though. Him sheeping the snowy vote on me seemed all kinds of weird. And he didnt do any real posting?

Thank you Vecna for obliquely pointing out that bob is scum for saying I am anything less than the King of Cool.

Hmmm slight reminiscent feeling I have to check up on. Isnt Waffling/jokey food usually scum?

[Vecna]

I keep being surprised by Hamilton Brian's Up/Down in playstyle. The variance in his play as town the last bunch of games has made it really hard to read him.

Here once again it feels like he starts on very low energy (complete 180 again from last game), but he does throw out a bunch of easy townreads. Does he do that because he feels its expected of him?

Yeah, that's my fault. I think it has to do with the quality of living I'm in currently. More stressors around than the last few times I've played. Hence the low energy. I thought me adding a joke for my first post would be a nice change but no one laughed. Sad clown.

Noted, although this reply doesnt really help me read your alignment.

Not that it matters, theres no way were killing you d1, and you've proven you become easy to read down the line really quickly anyway.

[worcej]

I'm unimpressed with everyone so far.

This comes off as genuine.

[Vecna]

I have a theory. I think you're all deep learning bots building on top of the first take anyone puts in the game, and snowball it to exponential explosions.

I suppose there's a certain irony to going to sleep accusing you all of not asking questions, and waking up to the same.

At this time I note Jamiet has left without stating his reason for scum reading ghug. A convenient timing? Time will tell.



Bona! On what grounds would you state that worcej's few initial posting does not already feel scummy? Does any of his comments stand out as towny to you?

Snowy! Why did you question Bona's disagreement, but not Vecna's original comment? Does anything in worcej's comments seem scummy to you?

I actually town read worcej, but there's little value in questioning early scum reads. It usually just amounts to "I don't like something."

There is much greater value in asking about someone's denial of another read. I've been trying to teach (some) of you how to think past surface level thoughts to extract value in people's posts, and it usually boils down to understanding the state of mind from which certain posts can be made.

In this particular, anyone can "feel" a person is scummy or towny, that is natural. But it is important to remember that nobody (but scum) knows with certainty to be true, so you need several additional degrees of confidence (which is still not much) to reject someone else's opinion on a matter, and so early on when there is the least information the thoughts of someone trying to negate another's reads is much more meaningful than someone presenting their own thoughts.

That being said, it's difficult to parse these from people who are just inexplicably confident, but I don't have a problem with what Bona had to say.

Desire to kill lessens significantly

[snowy801]

I'm unimpressed with everyone so far.

This comes off as genuine.

I'm unimpressed with ghug tbh.

##vote Jamiet99uk

[worcej]

list of fully legit reads, this has never gotten me daykilled before
kakarroto is cool, can we keep him
bona is cool, and also has a decent chance of not being town, but still cool
snowy is not cool, don't like snowy
jamie is cool, in temper at least
bozo seems... like bozo
vecna will shortly proceed to be mad at me because this post is uncool
foodcoats is slightly cool
macca i need a little bit more time on, and more content from, seems very normal so far

Interesting that the "this has never gotten me daykilled before" was added...

But otherwise, the list seems short and initial vibes more than substance. Keeping you in status.

[Vecna]

When did Ghug become such a thin skinned crybaby?

You quit the last game and the council because you were a thin-skinned crybaby, made a big show of promising to be better, and then came in insulting someone. The fact that that someone is me is only slightly relevant.

Can I be honest that you both seem to be over-reacting and I am leaning more towards theater than actual honest intent?

hmmm

[damo666]

Post requirement fulfilled.

Where is rdr?

Why is nobody else voting Bona?

How do you pronounce ghug and lfischl and xorxes?

Why did you say "Post requirement fulfilled."? Briefly walk me through your thoughts.

Bona is my strongest town read. I've come to discover that rdrivera comes and goes as he pleases.

Because it is. A 5 post requirement is unusual.

Why does Chaqa keep referring to minimum post count as minimum vote count in his vote count updates?

[worcej]

real talk here, maccas openness to a massclaim bodes well-ish

bona is cool, but still a huge wildcard at this point
i like the tone, but that doesnt mean much

im also just really not vibing with snowy
seems a little too tense and asks too many questions without giving much content
i do have a natural inclination to dislike those kinds of players but still, dont like it

i appreciate jamies presence and tone, nothing more
do not have a read there

Still kinda vibey but with a little more.

Why is asking too many questions bad? I've never seen you apply this reasoning to other notorious question askers.

[Vecna]

Post requirement fulfilled.

Where is rdr?

Why is nobody else voting Bona?

How do you pronounce ghug and lfischl and xorxes?

uhoh. This is concerning according to the EMC-metric

[worcej]

you all suck for not being in my timezone btw.

Jamiet and damo have no excuse though. Entertain me!

I enjoy reading you spew to yourself when I am catching up.

[Vecna]

Ah. Here it is.

##vote bozo

scummy

To be clear, this is NAI.

I'll make it explicitly clearer - I think constantly forcing games into these mass claim arguments is not fun and if I would've known it would devolve to this situation once again then I would've retracted my signup to the game.

How was that a mass claim argument?

[damo666]

Ah. Here it is.

##vote bozo

scummy

To be clear, this is NAI.

I'll make it explicitly clearer - I think constantly forcing games into these mass claim arguments is not fun and if I would've known it would devolve to this situation once again then I would've retracted my signup to the game.

It wasn't discussed much and clearly isn't going to happen. It looks like you're using it as an excuse to vote.

[worcej]

Thinkarroto: A possible ghug/worcej pairing again?

Watcharroto: *stares*

What about worcej's message made Thinkarroto see a ghug worcej pairing?

well there was that game where ghug and worcej were together maf and they were cozy friendly squeeky nice with each other, that felt the same way and also I tried to make my idea go ... but yeah, now with the read up it doesn't look as cozy between the two of them as I first read into it.

I'm trying to not be a pot-stirrer unless I am passionately opposed to something someone is doing.

Who wants to make some clown soup with me?

[damo666]

Post requirement fulfilled.

Where is rdr?

Why is nobody else voting Bona?

How do you pronounce ghug and lfischl and xorxes?

uhoh. This is concerning according to the EMC-metric

EMC's metric is pants.

[worcej]

scummy

To be clear, this is NAI.

I'll make it explicitly clearer - I think constantly forcing games into these mass claim arguments is not fun and if I would've known it would devolve to this situation once again then I would've retracted my signup to the game.

It wasn't discussed much and clearly isn't going to happen. It looks like you're using it as an excuse to vote.

I mean, do you want to know my opinions or something?

[Vecna]

I actually think he's close to 100% accurate when hes attempting to read you.

[worcej]

If I had to vote right now I would vote Snowy, but with 8 players in the single digit posts I'll hold off and wait for more content.

So far I like Bob a lot and Vecna a fair amount. Bozo, Macca, and food all get mild endorsements. Null on all the rest.

Elaborate more on why snowy over anything else please