Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[ghug]

If you look at like 14/15 of his most recent posts he talks about me

And he's still harping on the Bob vote and my lack of response, which tells me he's not really trying to understand the game, only trying to pass an agenda

I just think it's so obvious to the point I'm starting to think it's too obvious, but that's no reason to *not* scumread someone I don't think

I think you're blinded by OMGUS, which sadly means you're probably town too.

[ghug]

I tend to agree with you here. I think one of Vecna or Ghug is scum, just not sure which one. I don´t think it´s both.

Also, can you run me through this logic? How can either of us be scum solo, but not with the other?

What type of unique distancing took place that makes this the logical conclusion that it cant be both?

Like I said, my read on you is strongly dependent on Bozo being scum. Both you and Ghug defended him in a way that I don´t like. Ghug is worst because he told an outright lie (Bozo didn´t tunnel as scum), but you disagreed with this statement but still keep the town read on him. I don´t believe both scum defend a third one so openly. That´s why I don´t think you and Ghug are scum together. Maybe there is a case for you both being scum if Bozo is town, but then I have to reconsider all my reads.

Eh, it's not that only town bozo tunnels as much as that tunneling is completely what town bozo does. Scum bozo imitates it, but generally with less vigor. I can't tell if his cheekiness this game is trying to mask that lack of vigor or if he just met someone who makes him happy or something.

[Chaqa]

At this point I'd like to point out JBH's severe disengagement from this game, which I purport (hi Jamie) deviates significantly from last game

That being said the posts he did make doesn't really strike me as scummy

I really am having trouble stringing together three scum in this game. Maybe it is ghug idk

If ghug is scum then there is probably a day 1 busser (Chaqa springs to mind). ghug Chaqa JBH ?

It would certainly not be beyond Chaqa and ghug to aggressively bus each other and do some scum theatre as they have. ghug made a really good point about how strong Chaqa has come out here. The other game where Chaqa got D1'd it was because he was pretty limp and he was town. And in other games where he's come out strong, he's been scum.

Pretty reasonable that it might be ghug, Chaqa and one other.

Last time I got D1'd I was not able to be super active. Look to the last town game before that one where I got Day 1'd despite being super active and "coming out strong".

[Chaqa]

I'm kinda thinking this might be a very seasoned scumteam.

RDR
Damo
Ghug
Vecna

top candidates

with maybe a Hamilton or Johnny in there

Snowy seems town to me. Vecna probably not one of the scum.

Ghug could be jester.

So... RDR, Damo, maybe Bozo today.

im thoroughly confused

About?

[Chaqa]

Interesting that we had four votes on Damo and all four have moved.

Food, Hamilton, Rivera, and Snowy.

Damo followed food onto ghug.

Seems possible to me Damo-Food are teammates. Both helped bear down on Bob.

Food has seemed pretty disingenuous too.

##Vote damo

[ghug]

(which is not to say that damo should be left off the hook)

I want to at this point explicitly call for reads lists. A lot of people agreed with Hamilton earlier, but nobody actually did it. Please and thank you

You can keep it short if you'd like

Town: HB, damo, Chaqa, maybe Rd
Null: Bozo, food, snowy can be back here now
Scum: Vecna, Horsey

[foodcoats]

If ghug is scum then there is probably a day 1 busser (Chaqa springs to mind). ghug Chaqa JBH ?

It would certainly not be beyond Chaqa and ghug to aggressively bus each other and do some scum theatre as they have. ghug made a really good point about how strong Chaqa has come out here. The other game where Chaqa got D1'd it was because he was pretty limp and he was town. And in other games where he's come out strong, he's been scum.

Pretty reasonable that it might be ghug, Chaqa and one other.

Last time I got D1'd I was not able to be super active. Look to the last town game before that one where I got Day 1'd despite being super active and "coming out strong".

Okay.

Right now I am thinking that ghug is probably actually truly the Jester. He doesn't seem very focused on anything this game, and there was the whole claim/retraction when he realized it would get him killed.

I wonder if ghug is actually a terrible vote for that reason.

If you had to choose from rdr, HB, or Vecna, who would you vote for?

[Chaqa]

It would certainly not be beyond Chaqa and ghug to aggressively bus each other and do some scum theatre as they have. ghug made a really good point about how strong Chaqa has come out here. The other game where Chaqa got D1'd it was because he was pretty limp and he was town. And in other games where he's come out strong, he's been scum.

Pretty reasonable that it might be ghug, Chaqa and one other.

Last time I got D1'd I was not able to be super active. Look to the last town game before that one where I got Day 1'd despite being super active and "coming out strong".

Okay.

Right now I am thinking that ghug is probably actually truly the Jester. He doesn't seem very focused on anything this game, and there was the whole claim/retraction when he realized it would get him killed.

I wonder if ghug is actually a terrible vote for that reason.

If you had to choose from rdr, HB, or Vecna, who would you vote for?

I reject all three of those as possibilities at this time.

[ghug]

Snowy seems town to me. Vecna probably not one of the scum.

Ghug could be jester.

So... RDR, Damo, maybe Bozo today.

Now you don't want to kill the jester?

[snowy801]

(which is not to say that damo should be left off the hook)

I want to at this point explicitly call for reads lists. A lot of people agreed with Hamilton earlier, but nobody actually did it. Please and thank you

You can keep it short if you'd like

Town: HB, damo, Chaqa, maybe Rd
Null: Bozo, food, snowy can be back here now
Scum: Vecna, Horsey

Why Vecna? I'm willing to buy, please sell me the product.

[Chaqa]

I think I'm limiting my vote today to Damo, Bozo, Ghug, Johnny.

[Chaqa]

Snowy seems town to me. Vecna probably not one of the scum.

Ghug could be jester.

So... RDR, Damo, maybe Bozo today.

Now you don't want to kill the jester?

It was ideal on Day 1. Now it's now ideal. If you actually are the Jester, you're not winning. The deal is gone.

[ghug]

##VOTE ghug

Lots of mentions of ghug. Ghug converges to many points of possible scummery and/or jestery. I think pound for pound ghug is a good boat to send down the river today.

How do you feel about Vecna parking on you? Do you think it's coming from a good place? or just an easy way to drop an off-wagon that can be used to consolidate later? Or something else?

Good question. He doesn't seem terribly convinced that I am scum, or that anyone else will believe I am scum, either. I think the act of saying... "I want to interrogate... this person!" is inherently townie, so that gives Vecna town points. I think the parking can be done from either alignment... town!Vecna may not have found a new person he wants to vote yet. scum!Vecna might be having trouble moving around because the game feels really townie in general and he doesn't want to give away anything.

Honestly Vecna could be scum here, but he might not be. I said earlier that he wasn't NK'd and that might be suspicious but there's also a Doctor in play, so NKing darg made sense.

So for me Vecna is full on null. He feels townie in his posts but Vecna is obviously good enough to look townie as scum. If there wasn't a great respect for Vecna he might become a wagon. I think if Vecna is scum we won't catch him first, we have to get a partner and find the links. Such is the nature of reputation in the webDip Mafia meta.

Love how much I hate this post.

[ghug]

Snowy seems town to me. Vecna probably not one of the scum.

Ghug could be jester.

So... RDR, Damo, maybe Bozo today.

Now you don't want to kill the jester?

It was ideal on Day 1. Now it's now ideal. If you actually are the Jester, you're not winning. The deal is gone.

Lol, I'm fine with you not voting me, but we still autolose if we hit town today, so I don't understand why your stance has changed.

[Chaqa]

How do you feel about Vecna parking on you? Do you think it's coming from a good place? or just an easy way to drop an off-wagon that can be used to consolidate later? Or something else?

Good question. He doesn't seem terribly convinced that I am scum, or that anyone else will believe I am scum, either. I think the act of saying... "I want to interrogate... this person!" is inherently townie, so that gives Vecna town points. I think the parking can be done from either alignment... town!Vecna may not have found a new person he wants to vote yet. scum!Vecna might be having trouble moving around because the game feels really townie in general and he doesn't want to give away anything.

Honestly Vecna could be scum here, but he might not be. I said earlier that he wasn't NK'd and that might be suspicious but there's also a Doctor in play, so NKing darg made sense.

So for me Vecna is full on null. He feels townie in his posts but Vecna is obviously good enough to look townie as scum. If there wasn't a great respect for Vecna he might become a wagon. I think if Vecna is scum we won't catch him first, we have to get a partner and find the links. Such is the nature of reputation in the webDip Mafia meta.

Love how much I hate this post.

Food is skeezing me out a lot too.

[ghug]

I think we have to kill Vecna.

##VOTE Vecna

[Chaqa]

Now you don't want to kill the jester?

It was ideal on Day 1. Now it's now ideal. If you actually are the Jester, you're not winning. The deal is gone.

Lol, I'm fine with you not voting me, but we still autolose if we hit town today, so I don't understand why your stance has changed.

We don't have a confirmed Jester. The deal was to give the Jester an easy win on Day 1 so we didn't have to worry about it later. The Jester, be it you or someone else, did not take the deal, so unless the Jester claims today and takes the deal, it's pretty irrelevant.

Assuming you are not the Jester (or are not willing to claim and take your win), there's little reason to vote you at the moment. Either mafia will sort you out or the cop will.

[snowy801]

Why. Vecna?

[foodcoats]

How do you feel about Vecna parking on you? Do you think it's coming from a good place? or just an easy way to drop an off-wagon that can be used to consolidate later? Or something else?

Good question. He doesn't seem terribly convinced that I am scum, or that anyone else will believe I am scum, either. I think the act of saying... "I want to interrogate... this person!" is inherently townie, so that gives Vecna town points. I think the parking can be done from either alignment... town!Vecna may not have found a new person he wants to vote yet. scum!Vecna might be having trouble moving around because the game feels really townie in general and he doesn't want to give away anything.

Honestly Vecna could be scum here, but he might not be. I said earlier that he wasn't NK'd and that might be suspicious but there's also a Doctor in play, so NKing darg made sense.

So for me Vecna is full on null. He feels townie in his posts but Vecna is obviously good enough to look townie as scum. If there wasn't a great respect for Vecna he might become a wagon. I think if Vecna is scum we won't catch him first, we have to get a partner and find the links. Such is the nature of reputation in the webDip Mafia meta.

Love how much I hate this post.

*continues trimming hedges*

[damo666]

I'm catching up a bit here but if I have to pick between bozo and ghug, ghug looks far scummier. bozo is tunnelling but in reading his posts today I don't feel they look forced or strange. bozo is just stuck on one single point. I really don't imagine that scum!bozo would be so stuck; it's much more likely in my opinion it's an analytical point he thinks is really solid about snowy that has him locked in. I have been there as town many times.

ghug & 1 of rdr/Chaqa & someone like JBH works.

I am willing to switch to ghug if he becomes a viable wagon.

What do you think of rdr following snowy today, and how he has explained why he is sheeping/aligning with snowy so tightly?

I don't think he has explained it really. As to what I think of it, it's lazy but perhaps rdr has his reasons (which to me would indicate a ghug/Chaqa/? scumteam fwiw).