Mini-Mafia Game - Interesting Facts Edition GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[Vecna]

Do you find the fact itself odd or do you find it odd that Johnny chose this particular fact? If the latter, is there anything you would deduce about Johnny’s alignment based on him raising this fact?

I find it odd anyone would state this fact specifically for Wisconsin, but I do not find it alignment indicative.

Well, to use the logic I am used to seeing here....

University of Wisconsin has a sports team, whose mascot is a badger, and the Mongolian word for badger rhymes with mafioso. If I was mafia, I would never refer to Wisconsin, as it is an obvious giveaway to the Mongolian speakers, and therefore I must be town.

As a native mongolian speaker I can confirm this post reeks of Ghug

[Vecna]

I misconstrue nothing. In general, posts like yours and foodcoats' are annoying. You assume that everything other people say is incorrect, which is a bad habit you should all grow out of.

I knew you made that post, yet my comment remains true

I didn’t assume you were incorrect. I was looking for clarification. Thank you for providing it.

Your comment remains true, but it is unclear what your position on it is, because you say that lurking is not a crime (which I take to mean not scummy) but that you will push to have HB daykilled for this.

Does that act of lurking make you scumread HB?

It would be silly to necessarily do so, when I do it all the time as town, but I certainly do it more as scum. That being said, I despise the connotations of the phrase "not alignment indicative (NAI)" because it's such a cop out phrase. All things are alignment indicative; most things are just insufficiently so to merit comment. I know that this is the idea most people are expressing when they say NAI, but often I just hear "I can't be bothered to stake a position in it" and I hate it.

And yes I see now that you were only seeking clarification, apologies.

this is pretty 180'ish from your god QT comments last game that everyone thinks they can read everything into anything.

It also avoids the question

[BobMcBob]

jbh seems fun
dargo has been fine
chaqa is a bit eh, but i dont mind him
damo entry is very damo, but the lack of math is slightly disturbing
rdr is towncore
worcej probably scum

[Vecna]

Also, we all should know better . Sometimes a person, for instance HB, will go have a quick read and decide,”I’ve got nothing to add right now or I don’t have the energy to try to comprehend; I’ll wait until later.”

Like this post

[Vecna]

Assuming snowy would not fake claim VT as town, he has eliminated 2 possible roles, leaving 10 roles, 6 that are town and 4 that are not.

Interesting. I don’t think that’s necessarily correct, but it certainly could be.

Regarding your theory that darg and ghug are bussing snowy, is there anything in the way they or snowy have acted in particular that makes you think this? Or is it just a gut feeling?

My theory is based on their collective inclination to bus early as scum (including snowy, who is voting for dargorygel).

This definitely applied to Ghug in the past. Do you think he'd continue doing this though with how often he's been called out for it?

[Vecna]

No, but that's certainly no reason not to vote for him.

Well, of course: I don’t want to vote for the Jester. And I brought up this conversation because you suggested darg might be the third party. But perhaps that was… in… jest?

Generally I don't worry overmuch about accidentally jestering day 1. Good on them if they did, but I think pure min/max it's better to try to properly vote out scum than carefully avoid type II errors, and ending up voting out town.

Killing jester day1 might actually be not such a terrible side effect. Eliminate that pesky wifom "oh he's not actually scum, he just wanna die" train of logic thats undoubtedly to follow. And give the pr's gamesolve time.

[BobMcBob]

actually to be fair, hb is possibly the easiest town player to scumread on this site, so i dont really feel comfortable pushing much there this early
although for now i should probably ##unvote

its good to be back with players i actually know lol

[Vecna]

I find it odd anyone would state this fact specifically for Wisconsin, but I do not find it alignment indicative.

Well, to use the logic I am used to seeing here....

University of Wisconsin has a sports team, whose mascot is a badger, and the Mongolian word for badger rhymes with mafioso. If I was mafia, I would never refer to Wisconsin, as it is an obvious giveaway to the Mongolian speakers, and therefore I must be town.

Can't argue with that, bozo.

Just wait until he uncovers the secret message in that post by throwing it through exactly 4 loops of google translate

[Vecna]

Wait so if I claim jester, nobody will ever kill me, right?

Yes

K just lemme check my role PM to make sure that worcej got rid of the rule where the jester couldn't claim jester.

Ghug being very jovial and not making a single comment on anything written thus far.

Total jester, too obvious

[Vecna]

Three things I hate… First, voting on the basis of someone “being present’ but not posting. Or ANY time of RL drippage into the game. It feels like scum looking for an easy catch, to me. Or maybe not an EASY catch, but something non committal that looks like you ‘caught’ something.

Second, doing things like continuing to bring up a conversation thread while saying that we should NOT bring up that conversation thread. i.e. Jester play styles.

Third, acting like it is Day 4 when it is Day 1. There is a world of difference between saying, ‘that looks odd.’ And “HOKEY SCHMETE THEY ARE CLEARLY SCUM” after one or two posts. Maybe it is pressure? But I think it is optimistic foolish setting oneself up as a hero already.

I warned before the game that these first days I won’t be present. And we have no joke phase. This is like half way through our usual Day 1.

So here are my thoughts so far. snowy seemed at first, light and quirky. When I joke voted him he OMGUSed. I don’t remember snowy doing that. Is it AI? I dunno… but I don’t like his reaction, or his jester conversation.

HB is acting like someone busy in RL trying to play this game.

BOZO is back! I am not sure I followed his math. But I usually don’t.

Foodcoats seems like he wants to argue. I disagree with snowy that foody is being simply negative. He’s prying and seeking reaction. I hope he gets some.

Not a lot to read, yet. Tomorrow is another day.

##vote Dargorygel

[Vecna]

And ghug posted while I was writing.
ghug's new trick is to be town.

This feels way too easy

[BobMcBob]

also i think it may be wise to just leave jester wifom out of this game almost entirely and just chop the people we think are scum
its not like we lose if we hit the jester, its actually better than mischopping town

interesting fact: many other mafia sites use wolfy and villagery and its unwieldy as heck (e.g. villagerier) and i hate it

[Vecna]

Not sure why the leading wagon for snowy. How so ghug, Darg, Bozo? I know, I know...I will go back, but I am just trying to do some synthesizing.

HB is also feeling particularly fluffy

[Vecna]

My theory is based on their collective inclination to bus early as scum (including snowy, who is voting for dargorygel).

I gave an inclination to bus early as scum?

Historically speaking. I remember someone saying it was a good idea to vote for whoever you were voting for D1, because as town you are good at picking up on scum D1, and if you are scum, you are probably bussing. Or did you say that about yourself?

Since when dont you have encyclopedic knowledge about these specifics?

[Vecna]

I believe there to be at least 2 scum in the group:

Johnny
Hamilton
Vecna
Dargo

I will explain why later in the day phase.

Chaqa taking early strong stances? Well, well...

[Vecna]

I believe there to be at least 2 scum in the group:

Johnny
Hamilton
Vecna
Dargo

I will explain why later in the day phase.

Chaqa scum

I'm down to ##vote chaqa

This almost feels like a very solid reason to townread chaqa

[Vecna]

Also, since snowy claims to be a VT, there is a 6/10 chance he is a VT and 4/10 he is not town.

this is indeed a very interesting observation
40% is almost 50%, which in turn is almost more likely than not
so its almost almost likely that snowy is scum
##vote snowy

yikes

[snowy801]

Killing jester day1 might actually be not such a terrible side effect. Eliminate that pesky wifom "oh he's not actually scum, he just wanna die" train of logic thats undoubtedly to follow. And give the pr's gamesolve time.

I took this comment and re-read the rules.

...if Jester winning does not prevent the rest from winning, literally why does the Jester role exist? For fun?

[BobMcBob]

Killing jester day1 might actually be not such a terrible side effect. Eliminate that pesky wifom "oh he's not actually scum, he just wanna die" train of logic thats undoubtedly to follow. And give the pr's gamesolve time.

I took this comment and re-read the rules.

...if Jester winning does not prevent the rest from winning, literally why does the Jester role exist? For fun?

playing as the jester is a unique challenge
also the jester introduces a few extra mindgames into scumhunting
snowy not jester from this

[Vecna]

I expect to be up until 7am making up for the incompetence of our 3rd party developers to make sure our new system is functional come opening

There is no chill here, only suffering

I'll be spending tomorrow unable to walk, but at least I don't have to work.

Just because snowy is sharing his nighttime activities doesnt mean this veil has to come off