M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

[ghug]

If Chaqa is town then the scum team must be from {braincel, emc, ghug, rdr, worcej}.

Of these ghug has been on the kill every day (which if anything I take as a town indicator) and worcej has been off kill every day. The other 3 have been on the kill once only.

Intra voting between these 3 is as follows with * indicating EOD:

Day 1 Day 2 Day 3

b e none g
e none g r* g
g b w none none
r none e* none
w e* e* none

The only triple with no intra voting is brw which I think is so unlikely to have happened I am going to bin it. Now this means at least one of emc and ghug must be scum. As ghug has been on lead wagon everyday I will

##vote emc

As I don't think worcej can be scum with emc this leaves the following possible teams

beg
ber
egr

If ghug is town the scumteam is {brain emc rdr}.

@worcej I trust you will follow me.

Maybe it's because I just woke up, but I don't understand this post.

It's not formatted very well. I was basically analysing the possible scumteams assuming Chaqa and JBH both town.

The only really interesting facts are:

You are the only person consistently on the top wagon.
Worcej is the only person never on the top wagon.
{brain, rdr, worcej} is the only team where no bussing at any stage has taken place.

I'm not convinced by my own conclusions anyway!

Yeah, obviously we haven't seen an especially heavy bus yet, since no scum are dead. I think something like worcej leaving a vote on emc is entirely plausible as a bus, especially as telling everyone you're going to be away at EoD is generally scum indicative. The dumbposting overnight has me leaning town on him independently. I'm also not really convinced by your snowy argument.

What do you make of Chaqa not putting rd in the lead?

[damo666]

Chaqa said he'd be willing to vote anyone but me or JBH so on the face of it you'd think he would jump on the rdr wagon. However perhaps he thinks that would look a bit too obvscummy. I think at this stage it's nai.

[celaph]

Sorry, been away for a bit. Catching up now. I saw xorxes has come and gone.

[celaph]

TBH I was planning to be more involved, but literally the day the game started, my girlfriend's parents told her they're selling the house she rents, so I'm just not super invested or active at the moment since we're in crisis mode.

If you are town and JBH is scum, it's very likely we lose tonight. You had to be very confident that JBH was town to not push for his flip. You were the one with the most info on this matter.

You never wavered day 3 from rivera/worcej/HB as the scumteam but didn't really push them much. Do you still think it's rivera and worcej? Who is the third one?

Well, along with Damo I got concerned by the instant loss scenario, but Johnny seemed more town as the arguments went on. At this point, I think the scumteam has to be exactly Rivera, Worcej, and EMC or ghug, unless brain!celaph has pulled a fast one on us.

You language here suggests that you see Damo as very town as you aren't even considering him for your scumteam. Why is that?

Also, what changed your view so quickly on him? You didn't defend him at all when he was a counter wagon at EoD.

[celaph]

From what I was reading, damo seems the towniest out of everyone, really putting in the effort.

I think emc is town just because the little he has said seemed always spot on.

I wasn't sure about rivera until he said what he said about people not voting for Chaqa, since Chaqa has seemed the scummiest out of everyone to me.

Not completely sure about JBH, either extremely clueless newbie, or crafty newbie scum. Number of shots tonight should be informative.

worcej hard to read because so absent, but I think he can read damo, and he is not reading him genuinely from my pov.

ghug opaque as usual, could go either way. Could replace JBH depending on what happens tonight.

Did I forget anyone?

What is townie of damo to you? He is pegging my scum-dar yet you think my read isn't genuine. His push on JBH right out of the gate immediately made me think he is pushing for the sake of pushing.

Only one you missed is celaph, who is BB, any take on them?

I think the way Worcej has asked this is pretty towny.

[damo666]

Einstein!

Speak.

[celaph]

It's not so much risky as wasteful. It just shows how shooting JBH rather than Chaqa n2 is silly in that scenario.

While I'm certainly leaning Chaqa, I'm confused as to why holding a kill is seen as wasteful. Holding the kill doesn't give town another DK so it's really just how you want to try and frame people best.

[e.m.c^42]

Einstein!

Speak.

One and half more page...

[damo666]

It's not so much risky as wasteful. It just shows how shooting JBH rather than Chaqa n2 is silly in that scenario.

While I'm certainly leaning Chaqa, I'm confused as to why holding a kill is seen as wasteful. Holding the kill doesn't give town another DK so it's really just how you want to try and frame people best.

It's one fewer dead town.

[ghug]

It's not so much risky as wasteful. It just shows how shooting JBH rather than Chaqa n2 is silly in that scenario.

While I'm certainly leaning Chaqa, I'm confused as to why holding a kill is seen as wasteful. Holding the kill doesn't give town another DK so it's really just how you want to try and frame people best.

It's one fewer dead town.

one less*

[ghug]

While I'm certainly leaning Chaqa, I'm confused as to why holding a kill is seen as wasteful. Holding the kill doesn't give town another DK so it's really just how you want to try and frame people best.

It's one fewer dead town.

one less*

Sorry I don't actually want to start an argument about grammar. Overcorrection is just my pet peeve.

[ghug]

Alright, emc, it seems you've caught up.

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 4.04
Chaqa: (2) worcej, rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005: (2) ghug, Johnny Big Horse
worcej: (1) Chaqa
e.m.c^42: (1) damo666

STILL not voted: (Ahem.) emc, celaph

Presently, no one is slated for destruction
Which time arrives in around two and half hours.

[rdrivera2005]

Einstein!

Speak.

One and half more page...

If you let Ghug and Chaqa miskill me by not entering a valid vote I will be really upset with you.
I kinda like being the counterwagon to Chaqa as I don´t risk starting to second guess myself.

[celaph]

I think Chaqa is scum, one of ghug/rdr is scum (leaning ghug atm), and I'm not sure who the third is. ##vote Chaqa

I don't think that there is an open and shut case on him, but I have a hard time building a scumteam assuming town Chaqa. Removing Damo, JBH, Chaqa, and myself rdr, ghug, worcej, and emc are left. I liked damo's of worcej/emc likely not being scum together and while I can see that an rdr, ghug, worcej/emc team is possible, it wouldn't be my top bet. For one, I think ghug would have used his comment about rdr bussing to move to Chaqa's wagon.

[ghug]

I think Chaqa is scum, one of ghug/rdr is scum (leaning ghug atm), and I'm not sure who the third is. ##vote Chaqa

I don't think that there is an open and shut case on him, but I have a hard time building a scumteam assuming town Chaqa. Removing Damo, JBH, Chaqa, and myself rdr, ghug, worcej, and emc are left. I liked damo's of worcej/emc likely not being scum together and while I can see that an rdr, ghug, worcej/emc team is possible, it wouldn't be my top bet. For one, I think ghug would have used his comment about rdr bussing to move to Chaqa's wagon.

That's all you have to say?

[ghug]

I'm leaning towards a Chaqa/rd/celaph scumteam.

[Johnny Big Horse]

I'm leaning towards a Chaqa/rd/celaph scumteam.

RD and Celaph

##VOTE Celaph

[damo666]

Rofl

[ghug]

I'm leaning towards a Chaqa/rd/celaph scumteam.

RD and Celaph

##VOTE Celaph

Are you more confident in celaph than rd?