M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

So, then doesn't it follow Damo would clear his teammates?

Not necessarily. I think, depending on the arguments being presented, scum wouldn't get close to it. I think they'd find another way to deflate the argument.

[damo666]

Will somebody rid me of this damned horse!

[Jamiet99uk]

Will somebody rid me of this damned horse!

Hey, I tried to shoot him last night, but he had a goddamn vest on.

[damo666]

I've thought of another one.

Chaqa gun n1 shoots snowy n1 rose. Scum also use factional kill on snowy. Jamie falsely claims to have been shot.

On n2 scum factionally kill snowy, Jamie gun n2 shoots JBH rose n2 and Damo gun n2 shoots PE.

That works. So, JBH do you think scum used both a gun and a factional kill on Snowy n1?

[damo666]

Come on Johnny, give me YOUR theory.

[dargorygel]

A large cat saunters in to the room. It is ugly. (The cat, not the room.)

The cat has a parrot feather, or a few of them, sticking out of his mouth.

He carefully puts something on the copy machine in the corner.

His paw pushes, “ok.”

A copy of the previous vote count rattles out of the machine.

The cat mouths it, and puts it on the desk in the front.


VOTE COUNT 3.5
Hamilton Brian: (3) ghug, rdrivera2005, celaph
Johnny Big Horse: (2) damo666, Jamiet99uk
Jamiet99uk: (1) Johnny Big Horse
ghug: (1) e.m.c^42

Worcej has not voted, although posting requirements have been met.

UnHB and UnChaqa have UnVoted.

Hamilton Brian has the most votes.

Around 5 hours left in this time period.

[damo666]

@darg JBH has switched to me.

[Chaqa]

Yeah, I wasn't really home much the last few days. Father's Day was an all day thing and yesterday I had a bunch of stuff going on, I'm around now, though I'm still feeling good about Hamilton, Rivera, and Worcej as the likely scum team.

Just doing a quick ISO and I can't see where you really had a case on Worcej. Some "I thinks" or a dropped vote because they hadn't posted yet.

Yeah, that's about it. I don't build cases, they're dumb and never are true anyway. You'll find at best 1 or 2 cases PER GAME that are accurate.

[worcej]

[snip...]

You said I went nuts at Brainbomb on D1. Again, the opposite was true. I had a lot of exchanges with Brainbomb, but I was calm and reasonable all the way through, and I even encouraged Brainbomb to calm down and take a break to cool off, several times.

[snip...]

Sure you may have been calm, but you were definitely not reasonable and were poking at him to rile him up several times until he lost his shit and then you tried to calm him down.

But this is the opposite of what you said before. You said I "flipped out" and was furious. Totally untrue.

Why do you find it so hard to tell the truth?

Where did I ever said you flipped our and were furious?

Is there a reason you're confusing me with someone else too easily?

[worcej]

The problem is that a lot of what you are saying in your case against me is FALSE and FAKE.

You said President Eden scumread me, when in fact he said I was "most likely town". The very opposite of what you had claimed.

You said I went nuts at Brainbomb on D1. Again, the opposite was true. I had a lot of exchanges with Brainbomb, but I was calm and reasonable all the way through, and I even encouraged Brainbomb to calm down and take a break to cool off, several times.

You're also deliberately spelling my name wrong in a way that annoys me. You wouldn't necessarily have known that the spelling "Jaime" particularly irritates me, but I'll tell you who DOES know that. Worcej. He could be the one coaching you.

I assume this is the targeted response?

My comments to each line in order:

1. In regards to PE - I see a read of you being in his town group 20 hours left of N2 then a weird comment about us being dumb. I do see that he thinks you're likely town, but he isn't 100% sure. This leaves some presence of doubt that maybe JBH is latching onto, I need to read JBH's read on you to be more reflective. I'll do that now.
2. I responded to this already, I don't agree with you here. You were picking at BB and you know it.
3. The name spelling thing isn't that uncommon and the reason why I used to mess it up is because I am friends with three 'Jaime's. And TBF, I've spelled your name right for quite awhile, so this is kinda a weird connection for you to try to make to assume I'm possibly coaching JBH.

So

You'll find I'm right about 1 and JBH was talking crap.

On point 2 yes I was arguing with Brain. That's not the issue. Pay attention. The point is that JBH said I "flipped out" at Brainbomb, went nuts, lost my temper, etc. None of which is true at all.

On point 3 I'm saying you know "Jaime" annoys me and JBH would not know that, but may have been coached to say it, to rile me up.

On #3 - I messed with you once about it and then corrected my behavior a long time ago. Why would I try to use this with a new person when it's been years since I did it once?

It seems like a really bad stretch to try to connect me to JBH for some reason.

[damo666]

Johnny Big Horse and Worcejstershire Big Sauce

[damo666]

worcej - seriously what do you make of JBH?

[worcej]

Glad you're back, if you're town we need your insight. You have become one of the primary suspects chiefly as a consequence of POE and your absence hasn't helped you. So please obvtown for us to narrow the pool.

Without context due to catchup, how am I in POE exactly? What events or claims have us creating a POE? Point me in the right direction and I'll be able to respond with something more beneficial than just 'you're wrong, I'm town'.

I can understand the whole 'he is gone and lurking, get him!' mentality we always have and if that's the issue that gets me killed, I cannot really argue against it.

I think you'll find out once you catch up.

Jamie is quasi clear. Chaqa and ghug are off table today. Celaph is probtown. And obviously I elim myself. Leaves you rdr JBH emc HamB.

Is Jamie only clear because he claims to have been shot and a rose was used? I'd say it makes him most likely town, but I wouldn't remove the possibility that it's fake.

We know multiple shots happened N1, but that doesn't necessarily make it certain they were at multiple people (unless I've totally misinterpreted the pretty clear information rules Vecna stated).

Your POE is based only off your reads it seems, which means it really isn't 'the' POE of the game.

[Chaqa]

I've thought of another one.

Chaqa gun n1 shoots snowy n1 rose. Scum also use factional kill on snowy. Jamie falsely claims to have been shot.

On n2 scum factionally kill snowy, Jamie gun n2 shoots JBH rose n2 and Damo gun n2 shoots PE.

That works. So, JBH do you think scum used both a gun and a factional kill on Snowy n1?

Except that Snowy claimed to have only been shot once.

[worcej]

worcej - seriously what do you make of JBH?

Blunt, interesting thought process, and unique. I understand his recent thought process, but cannot comment on if it's radically changed due to lack of information.

He scums you and Jamie, of which I am skeptical on Jamie and kinda town you.

[Chaqa]

I suspect Jamie and I are both alive specifically to push these theories. I don't know if Johnny is being coached, but I'm back to sort of thinking we need to flip him now in case the worst-case scenario is true.

Johnny today then Worc or Rivera or Hamilton tomorrow?

[worcej]

##GM Note:

Everyone intending to fire a gun tonight, or analyze the potential onslaught about to unfold, take kind notice of the flavor reveal rules in the rules section.

Some might be slightly irregular, and/or influence your choices.

In case anything is unclear, the TLDR is pretty much; Flavor will specify whether 1, or more than 1 shots are fired. Flavor will specify the same for the number of bullets that hit a dying target. Flavor will not reveal whether people survived gunshots due to roses, but in some cases you might use common sense to make obvious deductions.

Hopefully you're all still completely happy with your pre-game item selection.

This post is just a general reminder, and no inference should be made based on it of what items were or were not picked.

Bold and underlined would merit truth to the Jamie being shot, which makes him highly likely to be town.

I had to dig to ensure my line of thought was correct or not, turns out it wasn't.

[worcej]

@ghug, rdrivera2005, celaph - If you see this, could you expand on why HB over JBH?

Damo and Jamie are dominating the conversation about him atm.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sure you may have been calm, but you were definitely not reasonable and were poking at him to rile him up several times until he lost his shit and then you tried to calm him down.

But this is the opposite of what you said before. You said I "flipped out" and was furious. Totally untrue.

Why do you find it so hard to tell the truth?

Where did I ever said you flipped our and were furious?

Is there a reason you're confusing me with someone else too easily?

Sorry I'm on my phone.

It was JBH who said I flipped out.

Which was false.

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE
Cats have notoriously bad eyesight

Corrected and recounted.
The cat is locked in his cat-kennel.

VOTE COUNT 3.5
Hamilton Brian: (3) ghug, rdrivera2005, celaph
Johnny Big Horse: (2) damo666, Jamiet99uk
ghug: (1) e.m.c^42
damo666 (1) Johnny Big Horse