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Re: MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

#841 Post by ghug » Wed May 19, 2021 4:09 pm

Perplexity wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 2:45 pm
basically, don't wait til later if you're da real thang
Encouraging PRs to out is bad.

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#842 Post by ghug » Wed May 19, 2021 4:13 pm

Perplexity wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 3:07 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 3:02 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 2:59 pm


I thought there were 4 mafia. Only 3?
For someone I am towning, you're almost overselling your slips here...
in fairness, it's easy to forget that detail about one of them being separated

Hamilton is not just town for me because of what he did EOD, the fact that he's posting so much right now increases his town points, he just put more effort into this game than any other player

would be shocked if he were scum, worcej since I have you as town, don't ever vote Hamilton
You really bought Eden's scumchat townslip more than Brian's?

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#843 Post by Perplexity » Wed May 19, 2021 4:42 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:13 pm

You really bought Eden's scumchat townslip more than Brian's?
Depending on how they slip, it can be cool or not

Now Prez's delivery was quite good and Brian's '4 mafia' seemed real, but it's not those 'slips' that make them town to me

I'm aware they can be real or faked.

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#844 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 19, 2021 4:45 pm

Assuming damo is the JOAT, I notice that worcej and Hamilton moved to tie damo's wagon up with Perplexity's at 4. I also notice damo didn't mind moving from Perp to Chaqa at this point, putting his own wagon in the lead.

After about this point, it becomes Chaqa versus damo, and presumably a lot of the shuffling is town. However, both worcej and Hamilton moved during this shuffling period... but, I would expect that if they are scum and had generated the damo wagon, and wanted to continue to be in the mix as things heated up.

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#845 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 19, 2021 4:46 pm

Posted too soon:

gimix, Demon, emc, rdr, Macca, (and myself) did not move during this period of shuffling that occurred in the last 30 minutes.

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#846 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 pm

I am hitting some kind of keyboard shortcut accidentally and posting my incomplete wall posts...

I think we should be looking at gimix, Demon, emc, rdr, and Macca tomorrow. Very likely that there is scum among the loungers.

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#847 Post by Perplexity » Wed May 19, 2021 4:49 pm

:lol: so funny how most of you have me as almost confirmed town

;) we did it, boyz

/me safe

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#848 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 19, 2021 4:55 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:45 pm
Assuming damo is the JOAT, I notice that worcej and Hamilton moved to tie damo's wagon up with Perplexity's at 4. I also notice damo didn't mind moving from Perp to Chaqa at this point, putting his own wagon in the lead.

After about this point, it becomes Chaqa versus damo, and presumably a lot of the shuffling is town. However, both worcej and Hamilton moved during this shuffling period... but, I would expect that if they are scum and had generated the damo wagon, and wanted to continue to be in the mix as things heated up.
My counter to this, though, is my vote was made with 25 to go. Worcej was a late mover. I was on damo when they were a more likely wagon. Ghug then makes the Damo/Chaqa votes a tie at 4. Again, makes me look bad but I moved to Chaqa after ghug (and in no way does this indicate a sheeping; anyone could have made the same choice and I would have moved to Chaqa to presumably break a tie).

I really don't read worcej as scum; null to light town, and I think their reaction to the claim was a genuine reaction.

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#849 Post by ghug » Wed May 19, 2021 5:02 pm

Perplexity wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:42 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:13 pm

You really bought Eden's scumchat townslip more than Brian's?
Depending on how they slip, it can be cool or not

Now Prez's delivery was quite good and Brian's '4 mafia' seemed real, but it's not those 'slips' that make them town to me

I'm aware they can be real or faked.
Pres's delivery was actively tongue in cheek though. It was very blatantly intentional.

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#850 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 19, 2021 5:25 pm

Perplexity wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:49 pm
:lol: so funny how most of you have me as almost confirmed town

;) we did it, boyz

/me safe
Who do you think has you confirmed town? Perhaps I missed something at EOD. What do you think has convinced people you are town?

I still think you are a bit scummy mon ami.

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#851 Post by President Eden » Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm

Brian can be town

Vaplexity seems fine to me too

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#852 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 19, 2021 5:43 pm

President Eden wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Brian can be town

Vaplexity seems fine to me too
What made you come around on Brian? I thought you had said he was playing his scum game here.

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#853 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 19, 2021 5:50 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 5:43 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 5:32 pm
Brian can be town

Vaplexity seems fine to me too
What made you come around on Brian? I thought you had said he was playing his scum game here.
ding ding ding

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#854 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 19, 2021 5:50 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 4:05 pm
Macca573 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 12:35 pm
About damo's claim.

Even though the is no CC, there is a distinct possibility that he is lying, but I do not say we push it.

I believe that if someone claims your role, but you townread them, you should not CC as they are no protecting your role from mafia NKs.

I personally Town Damo, so even if I was the JOAT, I would not call him out, I would let him bait the NK.

If it goes on for a while, I expect the real JOAT to claim eventually. But for now, this is y rationale.



Given the way I treated dargo's claim last game, I do not expect this post to be taken well. I would however like to add that even as mafia, I genuinely did not believe dargo for a while.

Take this as you will.
I think if he's lying, he's scum and should be killed. There are ways to claim a role to protect someone, and on the block to save yourself isn't one of them.

That said, the whole "get off me, you're making a huge mistake" that Jamie does is something I think is more likely to come from town, so I buy the claim, and if he is lying, we'll find out eventually, so there's no reason to kill him without a counterclaim.
I have to agree with Ghug here. Damo´s claim is either town PR that don´t want to die or Mafia that also don´t want to die and want to get a cc. Either way, it will be sorted sooner or later and if he is lying the real PR should not claim unless needed as there is no Janitor power as far as I remember.

If Damo is town, VCA isn´t really usefull as it will be town x town. If Perp is scum we can look at who started Damo´s wagon, but if Perp is town then scum where probably just spread around. If Damos is lying then the Chaqa voters should be looked carefully, specially the first one´s (Demon, Ghug and HB).

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#855 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 19, 2021 6:22 pm

Pretty much agree with most of what you posted, Rivera.

I am trying to wrap my head around whether or not there is a time and place for town v town vote analysis. Maybe just as something to keep tucked away for later vote patterns?

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#856 Post by ghug » Wed May 19, 2021 6:35 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:22 pm
Pretty much agree with most of what you posted, Rivera.

I am trying to wrap my head around whether or not there is a time and place for town v town vote analysis. Maybe just as something to keep tucked away for later vote patterns?
The biggest thing to look for with town v town is who didn't give a shit.

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#857 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 19, 2021 6:40 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:35 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:22 pm
Pretty much agree with most of what you posted, Rivera.

I am trying to wrap my head around whether or not there is a time and place for town v town vote analysis. Maybe just as something to keep tucked away for later vote patterns?
The biggest thing to look for with town v town is who didn't give a shit.
Well then...the 4 vanity wagon voters.

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#858 Post by ghug » Wed May 19, 2021 6:41 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:40 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:35 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:22 pm
Pretty much agree with most of what you posted, Rivera.

I am trying to wrap my head around whether or not there is a time and place for town v town vote analysis. Maybe just as something to keep tucked away for later vote patterns?
The biggest thing to look for with town v town is who didn't give a shit.
Well then...the 4 vanity wagon voters.
Why are we set on the idea that perp is town, exactly?

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#859 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 19, 2021 6:44 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:41 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:40 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:35 pm


The biggest thing to look for with town v town is who didn't give a shit.
Well then...the 4 vanity wagon voters.
Why are we set on the idea that perp is town, exactly?
I am not. Given my notes yesterday, I was leaning town because I felt like they were a new player. Scrambling, latching on to someone's idea. Buddying. I am not as high on them as town now as then.

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#860 Post by ghug » Wed May 19, 2021 6:50 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:44 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:41 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:40 pm


Well then...the 4 vanity wagon voters.
Why are we set on the idea that perp is town, exactly?
I am not. Given my notes yesterday, I was leaning town because I felt like they were a new player. Scrambling, latching on to someone's idea. Buddying. I am not as high on them as town now as then.
They're not a new player, for what it's worth.

I see someone who very performatively offered to be killed and whose wagon dissipated in favor of two townies. Seems like a solid chance there's scum there.

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