MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

[worcej]

I don't think new scum asks if they should self vote.

You might be right? But is there value in using that "newness" as camouflage?

Your don't know they if you're new, though. It just feels like putting yourself out there for little benefit.

I'm assuming the first sentence was 'You don't know if they're new, though.'

If so - I agree. There have been a couple times where I've assumed 'new' and discounted someone when actually they were not new and playing a damn good game.

[Chaqa]

that Chaqa town lean was just because I assume he randed VT and sensed disappointment in his post when he mentioned 'bland'

also waffle post wasn't that serious, waffle lovers aren't good people thus they're automatically scum

I feel this is a genuine (but wrong) read of Chaqa.

Well, they've perfectly picked up on what the post was meant to do, but whether I'm actually VT, a PR hiding, or scum, you'll never know (until you do) lol

[worcej]

that Chaqa town lean was just because I assume he randed VT and sensed disappointment in his post when he mentioned 'bland'

also waffle post wasn't that serious, waffle lovers aren't good people thus they're automatically scum

I feel this is a genuine (but wrong) read of Chaqa.

Well, they've perfectly picked up on what the post was meant to do, but whether I'm actually VT, a PR hiding, or scum, you'll never know (until you do) lol

Ah, thanks for explaining this game to me

[foodcoats]

that Chaqa town lean was just because I assume he randed VT and sensed disappointment in his post when he mentioned 'bland'

also waffle post wasn't that serious, waffle lovers aren't good people thus they're automatically scum

I feel this is a genuine (but wrong) read of Chaqa.

Do you think Chaqa is scum?

[lfischl]

You might be right? But is there value in using that "newness" as camouflage?

Your don't know they if you're new, though. It just feels like putting yourself out there for little benefit.

I'm assuming the first sentence was 'You don't know if they're new, though.'

If so - I agree. There have been a couple times where I've assumed 'new' and discounted someone when actually they were not new and playing a damn good game.

This is why im worried about perp. he could be doing that exact thing.

[worcej]

that Chaqa town lean was just because I assume he randed VT and sensed disappointment in his post when he mentioned 'bland'

also waffle post wasn't that serious, waffle lovers aren't good people thus they're automatically scum

I feel this is a genuine (but wrong) read of Chaqa.

Do you think Chaqa is scum?

No, I just don't think Chaqa would be disappointed in being a VT if he is one.

[foodcoats]

that Chaqa town lean was just because I assume he randed VT and sensed disappointment in his post when he mentioned 'bland'

also waffle post wasn't that serious, waffle lovers aren't good people thus they're automatically scum

I feel this is a genuine (but wrong) read of Chaqa.

Well, they've perfectly picked up on what the post was meant to do, but whether I'm actually VT, a PR hiding, or scum, you'll never know (until you do) lol

This doesn’t seem like a very townie way to present oneself.

[Chaqa]

I feel this is a genuine (but wrong) read of Chaqa.

Well, they've perfectly picked up on what the post was meant to do, but whether I'm actually VT, a PR hiding, or scum, you'll never know (until you do) lol

This doesn’t seem like a very townie way to present oneself.

That's how you know I'm town

[worcej]

Your don't know they if you're new, though. It just feels like putting yourself out there for little benefit.

I'm assuming the first sentence was 'You don't know if they're new, though.'

If so - I agree. There have been a couple times where I've assumed 'new' and discounted someone when actually they were not new and playing a damn good game.

This is why im worried about perp. he could be doing that exact thing.

I don't get the 'trying to pretend to be new' vibe from Perp though.

What I am getting is the arrogant 'screw D1, I'll try more later' like what Nanook did back in the day. It seriously grinds my gears as a person, but has typically been a town position and not a scum play.

[worcej]

Well, they've perfectly picked up on what the post was meant to do, but whether I'm actually VT, a PR hiding, or scum, you'll never know (until you do) lol

This doesn’t seem like a very townie way to present oneself.

That's how you know I'm town

Sad, but incredibly true.

[Perplexity]

That's how you know I'm town

but incredibly true.
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you gotta bold it, worcej and it needs to be on his own line

your vote

[Hamilton Brian]

How do you have so many reads already?

They're not really, though, are they? They're mostly nullish. To what might be your followup question as to why publish this? I think a) I wanted to challenge celaph on this idea that most of my posts are off topic and b) I wanted to at least get my thinking out there, as short as it might be, as a way to get started.

I don't see me getting killed today, but if I do? Something for town to go on.

[celaph]

there's nothing to say, nothing of value

rivera has perfect posts and that's what triggered me, chaqa is my main town

do you townlean someone, worcej?

The way this is hedged doesn't feel like scum hedging. Besides that Perp's activity so far feels a little forced. I don't agree with his reads and they strike me as simple.

So what are you saying here, celaph? What do you conclude? Why did you feel a need to comment?

One of his posts make me want to town lean him, many others make me want to scum lean him. Null overall at the moment and I think he's either newb town or scum.

Why are you complaining about me commenting on someone?

[lfischl]

My reads, such as they are:
HR: strong null; disengaged? Historically a low volume poster on D1s?

President Eden: weird ass entry post where they vote Chaqa; no strong indication either way.

ifischl: somewhat town? Kind of challenges some of the thinking of perplexed, so that's somewhat positive. Really trying to get them involved, but then they've kind of dropped off.

Chaqa: maybe low-volume scum hiding? A few posts on labour economics and then pfffft. But then, chaqa does this.

Gimix: I'd probably agree with Damo...newbtown, but there are some things that give me pause, as I suggested to foodcoats earlier.

Celaph: in with the early reads, considers perplex as hedging but not scum, thinks Macca is town. Then commentary on my "off-topic-ness" No strong vibe but I'd pay attention to them.

Vecna: the eff is up with the parrot. How is that helping town? But since it's drawing a reaction, I don't think scum would want that so...town?

Damo: mmmm, really don't know. Was there signaling going on? Would it be that blatant if it were?

foodcoats: null; still getting used to their style

Rivera: more early posts than I recall, but then again this has been a very low volume game so far. Is it a change to their general presence? Maybe, but I wouldn't expect mafia to make a concerted change that would be noticeable.

Macca: had a dandy of a game in 66. Still null, but the declaration to gimix not to self-vote is promising as town.

Perplexity: scrambling a bit; latching on to others' reads as if trying to get some stable footing. I'd lean town for right now.

Demon: Seemed to be trying to inject some life and thought into the D1; not sure they'll sustain that, but I'd lean town right now.

ghug: they are what they are; ghug knows how to engage and make it seem like they're town. I'm not wholly convinced because they are pretty good at illusion.

worcej: How does worcej present differently than last game. I mistakenly scumread them (was I lead by the nose by kgray?) Right now I like their game. Asking a variety of questions; jury is out on whether or not they are good questions. I think I'd lean town. I liked this post: viewtopic.php?p=240599#p240599

Where is EMC?

[Perplexity]

don't + 1 posts

bomb is watching

[worcej]

you gotta bold it, worcej and it needs to be on his own line

your vote

Actually, what it most likely was is the bot didn't recognize that 'Perp' was shorthand for you yet. After his second vote, I think the bot 'learned' it.

[worcej]

don't + 1 posts

bomb is watching

FYI for the group - this is because lfischl +1'ed my 'sad, but incredibly true' post regarding Chaqa.

[celaph]

I must say I like Celaph's criterion, but wait, on that criterion I'm dead!

Nah, you're null.

[damo666]

Ok some activity at last. I gather the following:

No kill is off the agenda (worcej convinces)

lfischl apparently is pronouncable
gimix is newbtown
Vapor is perplexing
Worcej is playing his town game
Vecna remains annoying but I suspect this indicates VT
Everyone else is within normal meta.

Not willing to vote gimix, worcej or Vecna. I would be reluctant to vote demon because of D1 last game.

Other than that I could be convinced on anyone.

My vote remains on EMC for the timebeing.

Can I ask how my one counter argument completely stopped your no-NK discussion?

You brought the subject up, but seem to not have any interest in it...

My heart was never really in it and you reminded why it's a daft idea.

[lfischl]

don't + 1 posts

bomb is watching

FYI for the group - this is because lfischl +1'ed my 'sad, but incredibly true' post regarding Chaqa.

I didn't mean to.