MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

This scenario doesn't explain the lack of a Janitor-ing on Night 3, though, after the Watcher was dead.

Because it will still put pressure on you and me as the likely Janitor.

So now you're saying Jamie is not the Janitor. Make your mind up.

He's right. I'm not the Janitor.

[Hamilton Brian]

Maybe you could continue by making a post about how the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening? Perhaps you'd like to tell us that water is wet, or that ice is cold?

Maybe you can shove your snark where the sun doesn't shine.

[kgray]

Damo confirmed town

This reaction makes me feel scum RBed Vecna and Yav is tryng to clear his partner Damo.

More than that yav is scum who already knows damo is clear because he was really RB'd by scum? That's how I read it, but I'm townreading damo.

[kgray]

The presence of a Town Roleblocker means there definitely is a Janitor in play.

This at least explains Maniac's obsession with me being a potential Janitor.

It is unlikely that the Janitor would holster for three nights in a row and therefore it appears likely that either myself, Chaqa or Rdrivera is actually the Janitor.

It is not me because I am Town.

We should therefore consider making Rdrivera and Chaqa wagons tomorrow.

It is what Maniac would have wanted and the least we can do is show some respect for his scum-hunting judgement.

I maintain my opinion that it would be very risky for scum to janitor brain and then claim watcher, so they had very little reason to use it N2. This is not a good reason to scumread Rivera.

[dargorygel]

Damo confirmed town

This reaction makes me feel scum RBed Vecna and Yav is tryng to clear his partner Damo.

More than that yav is scum who already knows damo is clear because he was really RB'd by scum? That's how I read it, but I'm townreading damo.

Wouldn't he know damo is clear for an easier-to-see reason?

[dargorygel]

The presence of a Town Roleblocker means there definitely is a Janitor in play.

This at least explains Maniac's obsession with me being a potential Janitor.

It is unlikely that the Janitor would holster for three nights in a row and therefore it appears likely that either myself, Chaqa or Rdrivera is actually the Janitor.

It is not me because I am Town.

We should therefore consider making Rdrivera and Chaqa wagons tomorrow.

It is what Maniac would have wanted and the least we can do is show some respect for his scum-hunting judgement.

I maintain my opinion that it would be very risky for scum to janitor brain and then claim watcher, so they had very little reason to use it N2. This is not a good reason to scumread Rivera.

Could you explain this again? The risk, I mean. Yes, I could go back and read it, but it seems very pertinent right now...

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa: Who do you think is the Janitor then?

Beats me. Maybe you?

It is not me. I'm town.
So if it is not you, and it is not me, who does that leave?

Everyone but Dargo? lol

[foodcoats]

Or what if the Janitor is just macca

This is all WIFOM

stop talking about janitor at night

You're talking to yourself, Foodcoats.

Are you feeling okay?

What? Who's there?

...

WHO'S THERE I SAID!

[kgray]

Love the tinfoil that I must be janitor or WW because I got roleblocked. Truly inspired 10/10 theory

Explain to me why
a) Fargo not consumed
b) no Janitor

Drag being alive has plenty of explanations, we went over many of them yesterday. The janitor theory is more likely to me.

[foodcoats]

Love the tinfoil that I must be janitor or WW because I got roleblocked. Truly inspired 10/10 theory

Explain to me why
a) Fargo not consumed
b) no Janitor

Drag being alive has plenty of explanations, we went over many of them yesterday. The janitor theory is more likely to me.

Wait, what is the "no janitor theory?"

[kgray]

What do you mean "makes you think"??

Which other PRs do you think are still present in the game??

Werewolf is still present and lurking around in the shadows. THough not technically PR per se.

Yes we know the Werewolf is still around. We all know that.
You mentioned that already.

Why did you say "this makes me think" and then state something completely obvious to the point that even a five year old child would instantly know it?

This is not thinking or analysis yet you are presenting it as such.

Maybe you could continue by making a post about how the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening? Perhaps you'd like to tell us that water is wet, or that ice is cold?

Come on, Jamie. Don't be a dick.

[kgray]

This reaction makes me feel scum RBed Vecna and Yav is tryng to clear his partner Damo.

More than that yav is scum who already knows damo is clear because he was really RB'd by scum? That's how I read it, but I'm townreading damo.

Wouldn't he know damo is clear for an easier-to-see reason?

That's what I meant, yeah. This comment sounded more to me like yav knows damo *should* be clear because scum RB'd him, rather than pushing the narrative that his teammate was RB'd to get him towncred when they actually RB'd Vecna.

[kgray]

The presence of a Town Roleblocker means there definitely is a Janitor in play.

This at least explains Maniac's obsession with me being a potential Janitor.

It is unlikely that the Janitor would holster for three nights in a row and therefore it appears likely that either myself, Chaqa or Rdrivera is actually the Janitor.

It is not me because I am Town.

We should therefore consider making Rdrivera and Chaqa wagons tomorrow.

It is what Maniac would have wanted and the least we can do is show some respect for his scum-hunting judgement.

I maintain my opinion that it would be very risky for scum to janitor brain and then claim watcher, so they had very little reason to use it N2. This is not a good reason to scumread Rivera.

Could you explain this again? The risk, I mean. Yes, I could go back and read it, but it seems very pertinent right now...

I saw brain's comment about nobody visiting your house and assumed it was a watcher softclaim. He also kept talking about the watcher up to his death, and overall I thought he was likely to be the watcher. I'm assuming that's why scum killed him. Then you said after he flipped that he was kind of obvious about it, and I think food also said that he thought brain was watcher. Overall I just think scum wouldn't janitor him and assume they could get away with claiming watcher.

Basically, janitor!Rivera being RB'd is a less likely explanation for why brain wasn't janitored than what I said above. In my opinion.

[kgray]

Explain to me why
a) Fargo not consumed
b) no Janitor

Drag being alive has plenty of explanations, we went over many of them yesterday. The janitor theory is more likely to me.

Wait, what is the "no janitor theory?"

I meant Chaqa being janitor is more likely to me. Damo saying "no Janitor" is asking Chaqa to explain why ghug wasn't janitored, and implying Chaqa is the janitor.

[foodcoats]

Drag being alive has plenty of explanations, we went over many of them yesterday. The janitor theory is more likely to me.

Wait, what is the "no janitor theory?"

I meant Chaqa being janitor is more likely to me. Damo saying "no Janitor" is asking Chaqa to explain why ghug wasn't janitored, and implying Chaqa is the janitor.

But if they don't Janitor N2 because they want to claim what they janitored, how can they know for sure they can claim a PR they've janitored on N3?

The logic of them not janitoring brain because they can't easily claim brain's role but they want to save the janitor to steal a PR claim doesn't make sense, unless they already think they know who the other PRs are on N2.

Basically saying they don't janitor N2 because they want to steal a claim seems way down the rabbit hole to me.

[foodcoats]

Like, don't they just janitor brain N2 to make it harder for us to solve the setup?

[foodcoats]

I think it's very possible scum forgot it N1 (Macca), or, incredibly slimly, it was Jamie and he was blocked...

And then they decided to just holster (or they decided to from the beginning) in the hopes of helping WW to solve and make kills, which accelerates their game overall.

But I think WW is canny enough that at this point they don't want to accelerate the mafia game... and maybe they took a bite N1 and were wrong so they are just biding their time.

[kgray]

Wait, what is the "no janitor theory?"

I meant Chaqa being janitor is more likely to me. Damo saying "no Janitor" is asking Chaqa to explain why ghug wasn't janitored, and implying Chaqa is the janitor.

But if they don't Janitor N2 because they want to claim what they janitored, how can they know for sure they can claim a PR they've janitored on N3?

The logic of them not janitoring brain because they can't easily claim brain's role but they want to save the janitor to steal a PR claim doesn't make sense, unless they already think they know who the other PRs are on N2.

Basically saying they don't janitor N2 because they want to steal a claim seems way down the rabbit hole to me.

I don't necessarily think they would have to have an idea of who's a PR, they could just hope to get lucky?

But yeah, maybe I'm reading too much into brain not being janitored. I just know that I would have been sus of someone claiming watcher if brain had been janitored.

[kgray]

Like, don't they just janitor brain N2 to make it harder for us to solve the setup?

Yeah, good point. Although they could also have wanted the werewolf to know they didn't have to worry about the watcher?

Or they could have not even seen brain's watcher crumbs, or not believed them because he's brain.

[rdrivera2005]

This scenario doesn't explain the lack of a Janitor-ing on Night 3, though, after the Watcher was dead.

Because it will still put pressure on you and me as the likely Janitor.

So now you're saying Jamie is not the Janitor. Make your mind up.

Show me were I told Jaime is not the Janitor, I am saying I think he is and that this explains no N3 Janitoring too.

I am saying that if Jamiet is the Janitor that was RBed N1 he will probably avoid Janitoring N2 e N3 to avoid pressure. The same would be valid on N3 for me if I was Janitor (I am not) RBed N2.