MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#5401 Post by Kakarroto » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:34 pm

Maniac wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:38 pm
FWIW I think WW hasn't killed darg because Darg is tying up the mafia's RB. Kill Darg and mafia might stop WW doing what he wants to do later. Also scum are kicking our asses, WW might not want to thin the herd yet.

I'm working on the assumption that mafia made all the kills because if they were WW kills they are damn good guesses. I suppose there is a scenerio where WW killed BB when he claimed WW and WW looked at him closely and guessed right but that stretches credulity as it would also happen to be the same night that mafia got RB (even when they could send a back-up killer) or held their kill (v unlikely)

So if scum made the three kills why haven't they janitored one yet? They are good enough to hit 3/3 PRs yet leak the info to us. If one of those kills had been janitored we'd be still guessing the set-up.

I have no time for a darg wagon. It might be a good idea later, but now is not the time. Say he is VT helping our real cop, killing him harms us massively. Let him be.

I'm less confident about Celaph at the moment, but will stay on him. He is right about my fuzzy thought process. I had him as scum based on BB, then when ghug pointed finger at him the only thing I could come up with was he could be WW or had tried to kill WW but how could scum try to kill WW if all their kills went through? So I'm left with staying on Celaph because one of BB and Ghug could have info, but not both of them.
oof, this post maniac told us he is trb (well I think I might've missed it at the time but that paragraph about janitor makes it quite obvious ... at least in hindsight). Though honestly, why did they holster janitor until now, are they setting up something else?

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#5402 Post by Kakarroto » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:50 pm

kgray wrote:
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You guys! I passed my prelim exam today!! I’m officially a PhD candidate and will never be a student again :-D :-D :-D
ohhh, congratulations!

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#5403 Post by damo666 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:29 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:34 pm
Maniac wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:38 pm
FWIW I think WW hasn't killed darg because Darg is tying up the mafia's RB. Kill Darg and mafia might stop WW doing what he wants to do later. Also scum are kicking our asses, WW might not want to thin the herd yet.

I'm working on the assumption that mafia made all the kills because if they were WW kills they are damn good guesses. I suppose there is a scenerio where WW killed BB when he claimed WW and WW looked at him closely and guessed right but that stretches credulity as it would also happen to be the same night that mafia got RB (even when they could send a back-up killer) or held their kill (v unlikely)

So if scum made the three kills why haven't they janitored one yet? They are good enough to hit 3/3 PRs yet leak the info to us. If one of those kills had been janitored we'd be still guessing the set-up.

I have no time for a darg wagon. It might be a good idea later, but now is not the time. Say he is VT helping our real cop, killing him harms us massively. Let him be.

I'm less confident about Celaph at the moment, but will stay on him. He is right about my fuzzy thought process. I had him as scum based on BB, then when ghug pointed finger at him the only thing I could come up with was he could be WW or had tried to kill WW but how could scum try to kill WW if all their kills went through? So I'm left with staying on Celaph because one of BB and Ghug could have info, but not both of them.
oof, this post maniac told us he is trb (well I think I might've missed it at the time but that paragraph about janitor makes it quite obvious ... at least in hindsight). Though honestly, why did they holster janitor until now, are they setting up something else?
Janitor can only have been blocked once maximum and must have held at least twice. Why would that be? Maybe scared of the Watcher? But brain died N2 so why no janitor N3?

Possible reasons:

a) Chaqa is Janitor and was blocked
b) Held to continue to confuse
c) Scum do not have an item and are afraid of the binoculars

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#5404 Post by damo666 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:32 pm

Speaking of items if anyone has the healing crystal you know what to do tonight.

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#5405 Post by Hamilton Brian » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:55 pm

damo666 wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:32 pm
Speaking of items if anyone has the healing crystal you know what to do tonight.
Ain't that the truth.

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#5406 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:23 am

damo666 wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:29 pm

Possible reasons:

a) Chaqa is Janitor and was blocked
b) Held to continue to confuse
c) Scum do not have an item and are afraid of the binoculars
When this game is done and we sit down together and have a beer over it, I'd like to know how you came up with option a.

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#5407 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:39 am

Here was movement in reverse order from EOD to the vote where Maniac becomes the lead wagon after me.

Bona: Ham>Man 12
Chaqa: Yav>Man 11
Damo: Yav>Man 10
Yav: Mac>Man 9
Celaph was already on Man, but voted again
Rivera: Ham>Man 8
Food: Ham>Man 7
Darg: Ham>Man 6
Kgray: Ham>Man 5/HB 4/ (this was the ultimate lead vote and ran upward).

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#5408 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:02 am

Here is the play from the mezzo:

Man: kgray>kgray 5HB/4Man
Man: Jam>kgray 5HB/4 Man
Damo: Mac>Yav 5HB/4Man (follows chaqa to less viable wagon. why?)
Chaqa; Ham>Yav 5HB/4Man (moves to a less viable wagon. why?)
Food: Man>HB 6HB/4Man (my zenith as a wagon)
Bon: Man>HB 5HB/5Man pulls vote from Maniac to me; hindsight says townie play

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#5409 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:13 am

From about an hour out to the point where I took the lead wagon piece:

Chaqa: Ham>Ham 6Man/HB4
Chaqa: Mac>Ham 6Man/HB4
HB: Jamie>Man 6Man/3HB
Cel: Yav>Man 5Man/3HB
Bona: kgray>Man 4Man/3HB
Damo: Yav>mac 3Man/3HB
DarfL Mac>HB 3Man/3HB


And is this Maniac confirming they blocked these players?
"I'm The TRB

Jamie was n1
RDR n2
Chaqa n3"

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#5410 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:15 am

So through all of that it's critical to look at who moved. The problem is, only scum knows for sure the wagons. But if I'm town and Maniac is now confirmed town, why the massive lemming run to Maniac? Who looks the shittiest here?

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#5411 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:28 am

Everyone just seems so deflated now. Or bored.

Can we not say that there have been some players that haven't undergone a strenuous scrutiny and are slipping through?

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#5412 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:47 am

Meaning, are there any players who have not had a sniff of being made a viable wagon? Why? Because they've obvtowned so hard?

I call bullshit. These people are operating right underneath us.

Yeah, I'll admit I fell into the trap of the Setup 1. It was a nice fantasy. But now? Let's put some 2s and 2s together.

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#5413 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:50 am

Now I need to go back and reread Maniac because they mention TRB SO many times. They've provided us clues, I am sure.

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#5414 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:09 am

From early in D4, Damo says: "If maniac is not eaten this would strongly indicate Chaqa is WW (or Maniac himself is)."

Is this still valid? Maniac wasn't but Chaqa is (despite their protestations).

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#5415 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:19 am

viewtopic.php?p=238174#p238174

From Damo around 33 hour of D4:
Roleblock claims

N1 damo and Jamie
N2 rdr and dargo
N3 chaqa and dargo

Comparing/contrasting with confirmed TRB claims:
Jamie was n1
RDR n2
Chaqa n3

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#5416 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:30 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:09 am
From early in D4, Damo says: "If maniac is not eaten this would strongly indicate Chaqa is WW (or Maniac himself is)."

Is this still valid? Maniac wasn't but Chaqa is (despite their protestations).
Well, I'm not the Wolf, so no. I feel like my reaction to Maniac's claim should be evidence enough. I am absolutely floored he wasn't the Wolf.

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#5417 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:42 am

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:30 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:09 am
From early in D4, Damo says: "If maniac is not eaten this would strongly indicate Chaqa is WW (or Maniac himself is)."

Is this still valid? Maniac wasn't but Chaqa is (despite their protestations).
Well, I'm not the Wolf, so no. I feel like my reaction to Maniac's claim should be evidence enough. I am absolutely floored he wasn't the Wolf.
Why is it not valid without the knowledge that you are werewolf?

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#5418 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:47 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:42 am
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:30 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:09 am
From early in D4, Damo says: "If maniac is not eaten this would strongly indicate Chaqa is WW (or Maniac himself is)."

Is this still valid? Maniac wasn't but Chaqa is (despite their protestations).
Well, I'm not the Wolf, so no. I feel like my reaction to Maniac's claim should be evidence enough. I am absolutely floored he wasn't the Wolf.
Why is it not valid without the knowledge that you are werewolf?
Sorry, I don't quite understand the question?

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#5419 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:00 am

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:47 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:42 am
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:30 am


Well, I'm not the Wolf, so no. I feel like my reaction to Maniac's claim should be evidence enough. I am absolutely floored he wasn't the Wolf.
Why is it not valid without the knowledge that you are werewolf?
Sorry, I don't quite understand the question?
I don't know for a fact that you aren't the ww, so can you explain to me why you aren't the werewolf without me having to just trust you that you aren't?

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#5420 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:26 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:00 am
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:47 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:42 am


Why is it not valid without the knowledge that you are werewolf?
Sorry, I don't quite understand the question?
I don't know for a fact that you aren't the ww, so can you explain to me why you aren't the werewolf without me having to just trust you that you aren't?
So, if I were the Werewolf, my reaction to Maniac's shenanigans wouldn't have been me being certain he had to be the Werewolf. Everyone else was content to assume he's scum, but I thought he was the Wolf due to his previous VT hardclaim.

If i were the Wolf, I would have tried to chomp on him already (probably n2) and in doing so I would know he wasn't VT, so I would have believed his cop claim, or thought that he was scum. Not thought he was WW.

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