MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

What are you mumbling about here?

Are you saying you got an item?

I'm a fan of your choice of the word "mumbling."

[Hamilton Brian]

There's no such wording provided in the OP from Hellenic Riot.

You've slipped.

##VOTE MANIAC
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BOO!!! Come on Jamie. Let me see if I can find the same passage from the google doc:

List of Potential System Messages for Journalist:

Cop: After investigations, you have concluded that <NAME> is sided with the (Mafia/Town).

Watcher/Binocular Report: During the night, you have witnessed (NOBODY/PLAYER A/PLAYER A + PLAYER B/PLAYER A + PLAYER B + PLAYER C/etc) visiting <NAME>.

Roleblocks: During the night, you were visited by a roleblocker and were unable to perform any actions!

Successful Doctor/Crystal Save: During the night, another player successfully prevented you from dying!

Successful Janitor: Whilst cleaning up the mangled body of <NAME>, you learnt that they were <ROLE> [and that they owned a <ITEM>].

Stalker Report: After investigations, you have concluded that <NAME> is a <ROLE>, [and that they own a <ITEM>].

Bulletproof Vest Usage: During the night, your Bulletproof vest was destroyed! You are now naked and vulnerable as the day you were born. Eek!

Item Receipt: During the night, somebody left <AN ITEM> outside your door.

Werewolf Immunity Activated: During the night, <NAME> attempted to kill you, but was prevented from doing so by your immunity!

Werewolf Immunity Activated (Ninja): During the night, someone attempted to kill you, but was prevented from doing so by your immunity!

Werewolf Incorrect Guess: During the night, you heard <NAME> outside your door, and it sounded like they wanted to eat you...

Journalism Failure: During the night, <NAME> did not receive any messages.

Death: During the night, you were brutally murdered. You are now dead.

That being said, is there anything in any of ghug's posts that would be synonymous to any of these messages?

I have to say though, this obsession on voting Maniac seems to be bordering on...obsession?

[Hamilton Brian]

Heh, bot read that as a vote for Maniac. Sorry pal, today's not your day...I think.

##vote celaph

I'd like to press those that have been coasting to lay it on the line.

[Hamilton Brian]

Dead townies aren't right just because they're townies, so not that it matters that much, but Vecna didn't scumread me.

No, but sometimes it's an open window. Not that it matters that much.

The scumread of you by Flum had an "addendum" about Vecna.

Vecna probably did have some praise for you for being early pusher of Demon.

Just came across this from Vecna: Chaqa: "Ghug/Kgray opportunistic wolves/mafia trying to get brain DK'd?" Vecna hated that post (emotion is my interpretation) and replied "And another post, here almost implying he knows RHK will flip scum." Chaqa...Why YOU gotta be this way!

Yes, kgray, yet again your memory of conversation far surpasses my laziness of quoting other people's reads. 4 hours to go Vecna wasn't high on you. That changed. FLum, yeah, she may have been scumread but it wasn't permanent...from Vecna.

[foodcoats]

Heh, bot read that as a vote for Maniac. Sorry pal, today's not your day...I think.

##vote celaph

I'd like to press those that have been coasting to lay it on the line.

But yesterday nearing EOD you allowed the celaph wagon to crumble by breaking the 5-5 tie and putting Flum into the lead.

Who do you think you’ll shift to later when this farcical joke for your scum buddy gets too hot for you?

##VOTE Hamilton Brian

[Hamilton Brian]

##VOTE Hamilton Brian

Well, you did propose some different wagons, so I am game. Put me up.

Don't take the fluidity of my votes to be anything other than...how did kakarroto put it...but yeah, when I'm flailing around like a lot of us, votes change.

[Hamilton Brian]

And now looking at the timing of my change to flum, and where the votes were spread, if I need to eat it because of that...I'll eat it. I'll just caution that town won't be any further ahead.

[Hamilton Brian]

So let me leave you with this, Food...what's your goal by putting a vote on me?

[Hamilton Brian]

And now I need to give you a reread around your Maniac thoughts, because you finally landed on Flum with a "scum are on Maniac."

Given I read Maniac as more town, and I think Celaph is scum, I think you're right. I think there was one on there. I'll bet you there were more on Flum. Let's check back when the game is done.

[Hamilton Brian]

Macca, I hope you're able to drop some thoughts in here through the hours.

[foodcoats]

So let me leave you with this, Food...what's your goal by putting a vote on me?

You’ve been low key scum all game. Your iso yesterday is terrible. You literally DID NOT MENTION FLUM until the post before you voted him and broke a 3 way tie to make Flum lead wagon. Your process of elimination doesn’t even make sense.

You hedged and wavered about celaph and then immediately walked back on your reversal when I questioned you. You hemmed and hawed and said:

Never mind, I don't want to forget this. My peanut brain says the three landed on the same wagon; yes, one flipped scum and the other didn't. If you compare how D1 ended...it was pretty hectic and full of movement. Panic driven and bussing? D2? Seemed relatively more "chill" if I recall. Not true, going back to it, there were a couple of minutes left. I helped make Worcej a lead wagon with about 20 minutes to go. Ghug stepped off to do some flattening. With 2 minutes to go, Chaqa makes the move to make Worcej the day's choice.

Maybe the remaining scum team includes Chaqa, Flum, and Maniac.

At this stage I'd be good with a DK of one of those 3 and potentially Jamie. I am still trying to dig through kgray's output.

Sorry, why were you ever voting celaph? What made you decide to decisively put flum in the lead and remove celaph from your scum reads?

Voting for Celaph was based on a lot of what brain was putting out. If you catch my other post tracking brain's commentary around Celaph, you might come to the conclusion that I still regard Celaph with some hesitancy. The suggestion of Celaph no longer being a scumread was made in haste and without a full think-through.

So you yourself say you voted for celaph for no reason, and then you deflated the celaph wagon to drive the Flum wagon over both celaph AND Macca despite having never once mentioned scum reading Flum in D2. OH BUT there is still “some hesitancy” around celaph. THIS IS MORE THAN YOU EVEN SAID ABOUT FLUM!!!

Tell me, do you ACTUALLY scum read celaph now? Are you just following the lead of... ghug now as the latest dead person? Or are you continuing to try to make distance with your scum buddy?

[Hamilton Brian]

I am what I am. I will stand what I said at that point in time.

Look at you picking up kgray's argument and trying to run with it.

[foodcoats]

I am what I am. I will stand what I said at that point in time.

Look at you picking up kgray's argument and trying to run with it.

So currently your stance is you are voting celaph for coasting. Is there anyone else you think is coasting? Why is celaph at the top of the list of coasters for you?

[foodcoats]

My reads, such as they are:

Bona: town
Celaph: scum. Listening to brain, have to run with it.
Chaqa: null
Damo: null
Darg: scum. I think we’ve been scammed. Will abide with the ghug logic here and wait for a claim.
Foodcoats: town
Ghug: thought town
Jamie: scum Not playing or exhibiting themselves in a “typical” way
Kakarroto: town
Kgray: null but scumread by Flum, Vecna,
Macca: town
Maniac: town
Rivera: probably town
Yav: probably town; not holding back challenges with others. Will go back to rephrase and clarify instead of shutting arguments down.

You also JUST called celaph scum at EON. What is it Ham? What is celaph? A coaster or scum? Are you relying entirely on brainbomb to sort celaph? What specific things do YOU think about celaph?

[Hamilton Brian]

I think you’re confusing my points on coasting and listening to dead people. It’s a conversation for tomorrow.

[foodcoats]

I think you’re confusing my points on coasting and listening to dead people. It’s a conversation for tomorrow.

No, I’m referring to the many shades of hedgy ways you speak about celaph.

I look forward to the case you will put forward for us to consider regarding celaph, who you are voting for.

[kgray]

##vote Chaqa

I can definitely get behind a Chaqa wagon. His suggestion that ghug and I were opportunistically miskilling brain before the D1 flip makes me think he knew Demon would flip scum and was trying to set up a miskill for later. The way he insists scum didn't bus D1 is also something that we've seen from scum!Chaqa. I did think his frustration at the Bona/worcej wagons D2 seemed genuine, but that's not as convincing to me anymore.

[kgray]

Heh, bot read that as a vote for Maniac. Sorry pal, today's not your day...I think.

##vote celaph

I'd like to press those that have been coasting to lay it on the line.

Do you think celaph is coasting the most out of everybody?

[rdrivera2005]

I would also like to rd to write his thoughts openly, if you are mafia like ghug is suggesting, you shouldn't deny, and if you are town, you would want to do that anyway

I don't understand what you meant with this. I have been writing my thoughts as openly as I can, so if you have something you don't get just ask.

Currently I am scumreading Yav and Maniac and I keep flip floping on HB, Jamiet and Damo. This are the one's I want to get in the block today.
I also fail to have a solid read on Celaph, Macca and Bona.

I townread Dargo, you, Kgray, Food and Chaqa.

[kgray]

I am what I am. I will stand what I said at that point in time.

Look at you picking up kgray's argument and trying to run with it.

Can you talk about that last sentence some more please?