MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

sorry for the formating, it looked much nicer in the editor, but I think it gets the idea across.

It's a neat idea; how helpful do you find it? Isn't it something that would take better shape and reveal more further into the game?

I agree with ghug though. Snapshot and discounts the movement that leads to those eod snapshots.

[Bonatogether]

Let's kill Flum.

darg should have been a wagon for that slip ffs

@Bonatogether: What "slip" are you talking about, please?

But I think others have realized, I either am or am not doc. We won't know until I flip, so put it on the back burner.

[Bonatogether]

That voting felt chaotic at the time but the bot doesn’t really identify it as such. Such a VCA must be right up Bona’s alley.

Once I'm done with hw I'll take a crack at it

[Bonatogether]

darg should have been a wagon for that slip ffs

@Bonatogether: What "slip" are you talking about, please?

Might be best to keep that low for this Night.

It was total bullshit. He slipped his claim and claimed he mistyped cop as doc. People refused to make this a wagon. Like wtf

[Hamilton Brian]

Is there any amount of evidence to suggest this EoD was T v S? Does Maniac's self-preservation vote look scummier than town?

[Bonatogether]

@Bonatogether: What "slip" are you talking about, please?

Might be best to keep that low for this Night.

It was total bullshit. He slipped his claim and claimed he mistyped cop as doc. People refused to make this a wagon. Like wtf

Can someone explain why darg wasn't made a wagon after this?

[Hamilton Brian]

Might be best to keep that low for this Night.

It was total bullshit. He slipped his claim and claimed he mistyped cop as doc. People refused to make this a wagon. Like wtf

Can someone explain why darg wasn't made a wagon after this?

I think it's a good idea for tomorrow, but I also think Maniac has to consider going up too.

[ghug]

@Bonatogether: What "slip" are you talking about, please?

Might be best to keep that low for this Night.

It was total bullshit. He slipped his claim and claimed he mistyped cop as doc. People refused to make this a wagon. Like wtf

This take remains moronic, Bona. If you're going to doubt darg's claim, find a better reason.

[Bonatogether]

Might be best to keep that low for this Night.

It was total bullshit. He slipped his claim and claimed he mistyped cop as doc. People refused to make this a wagon. Like wtf

This take remains moronic, Bona. If you're going to doubt darg's claim, find a better reason.

Why is it moronic? Is it cause you won't be townclear anymore?

[ghug]

It was total bullshit. He slipped his claim and claimed he mistyped cop as doc. People refused to make this a wagon. Like wtf

This take remains moronic, Bona. If you're going to doubt darg's claim, find a better reason.

Why is it moronic? Is it cause you won't be townclear anymore?

No, I'm all for that.

It's because 999,999 times out of a million, that's someone mindlessly saying the wrong thing, not slipping.

Even if darg is lying, he's been "the cop" for 75% of the time he's been the cop if he's the actual cop. It's equally engrained.

[kgray]

Is there any amount of evidence to suggest this EoD was T v S? Does Maniac's self-preservation vote look scummier than town?

Self-preservation is never scummy.

[Bonatogether]

DAY 3 VCA

This day had very few wagons - people were remarkably consolidated from early on.

PHASE 1: CELAPH AND MACCA DO....THINGS
First major wagon formed at T-46:25 (!!!) on celaph. It didn't lose major wagon status until T-0:20, and didn't finally die until T-0:05. Of the people who voted celaph:
flum, food, kgray, HB went to flum (but HB had a late flip to Maniac)
ghug went to Maniac (and flum at the very end to avoid a tie but that's irrelevant for VCA purposes)


Second major wagon was Macca to pressure them for inactivity. It interestingly gained votes for a while flum was picking up steam, but it eventually crashed.
Food, Chaqa, damo took circuitous routes to flum but should be treated separately
Jamie, kak, yav all went to Maniac

So what do we see? For each of the two wagons a majority (or one less than) goes to the same wagon. This is really weird but to be expected given the extreme amount of wagon consolidation happening from early on in the day.

PHASE 2: IN WHICH THE SAME PEOPLE SQUARE OFF BUT ON DIFFERENT WAGONS

Third major wagon was Flum. It had been slowly gaining traction over the course of the day, and only lost two votes (HB and damo). This leads me to believe that a fair amount of the people on it were scum. Probably 3 before Hamilton left (So three in the group damo, darg, HB, kgray, macca, rdr). None of these voters tried tried to avoid a tie.

"but bona, no one left the other wagon too except to avoid a tie!!!!!!"
well yes but the people on the other wagon were looking for a flip and so were willing to abandon their preferred wagon to get it. Townpoints for damo, kak, and ghug here.

Fourth wagon was Maniac.
Maniac wagon started late, with celaph kick starting it at T-2:07. As outlined above, a majority of Macca voters came here. The people who voted Maniac without previously voting Macca are: bona, ghug, and HB. Only kak on this wagon tried to avoid a tie. This wagon collapses once it's evident that a tie was imminent. Therefore I believe this was a predominantly town driven wagon.

CELAPH/FLUM VOTERS
flum, food, kgray, HB

MACCA/MANIAC VOTERS
Jamie, kak, yavu

POSTSCRIPT: THE WAGON THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
The two darg votes (macca and damo) came from Flum wagon. Both of them immediately went back. Why? If there's a scumslip this egregious, why not push it? Why immediately go back? Rereading, damo goes back without a stated reason. Macca goes back also, for no stated reason. Many many many scumpoints for this. I'd hazard a guess that one of them is scum who thought it was about to be a runaway wagon, but it just wasn't.

Also scumpoints for food for trying to dissuade them from voting darg.


tl;dr:
three scum in the group damo, darg, HB, kgray, macca, rdr
watch the groups flum/food/kgray/HB and Jamie/kak/yavu

[ghug]

Isn't one less than a majority a minority?

[Bonatogether]

Isn't one less than a majority a minority?

largest part

there

[ghug]

Isn't one less than a majority a minority?

largest part

there

Where did the rest of each wagon go?

[ghug]

Since I'm being so harsh about the dumb slip thing, I think it's worth noting that I like this analysis and I'm proud of you, son.

[dargorygel]

And bona is back to writing a lot and saying nothing. Total his suspect scum reads and smile with me.

Probably some omgus, and I do "get" the eyebrow raise at my mistype... But this is bona acting like he's trying... And not commiting to anything but a typo... Which was explained.

[dargorygel]

Since I'm being so harsh about the dumb slip thing, I think it's worth noting that I like this analysis and I'm proud of you, son.

Other than the broad conclusion, I agree uncle ghug.

[ghug]

Since I'm being so harsh about the dumb slip thing, I think it's worth noting that I like this analysis and I'm proud of you, son.

Other than the broad conclusion, I agree uncle ghug.

Wait, what is there other than the broad conclusion? What is it you like?

[Bonatogether]

Isn't one less than a majority a minority?

largest part

there

Where did the rest of each wagon go?

This is there?