MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[foodcoats]

kgray/celaph scumteam

Is there specific information you think kgray is refusing to acknowledge that suggests she is scum with celaph?

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Hmm. You know, especially comparing that link to kgray’s wallpost just above is really stark. But I’ll have to iso her completely.

[Fluminator]

I was hoping scum would try to shade Maniac for not getting eaten after claiming VT, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

(Because scum might forget werewolf wouldn't know if maniac was town or scum and just assume he's an eat. If Maniac is town)

[Bonatogether]

Is there specific information you think kgray is refusing to acknowledge that suggests she is scum with celaph?

viewtopic.php?p=236393#p236393

Hmm. You know, especially comparing that link to kgray’s wallpost just above is really stark. But I’ll have to iso her completely.

I'll give you towncred if you bus her

[Fluminator]

I'm softening on celaph but not fully.

Rdr/kgray/chaqa is where I'm currently at.
I still have concerns with one of Jamiet/damo

Maniac i think is town.
Getting general town vibes from a bunch of other players

vote kgray with me!

It feels a little early in the game to vote her still lol.

[Maniac]

If I was the Janitor, you think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna but didn't attempt to roleblock him?

If they knew Vecna would die (maybe there's no doctor), then they wouldn't necessarily need to RB him, right? It just worked out that his PR was the one that could still do something N1 if he died. But even if Vecna was RB'd, then either you or damo has to be scum, and I'm not sure why you couldn't be Janitor who was RB'd by town? Am I missing a mechanic?

The Janitor can perform the NK and then clear up the body.
If you think the Mafia tried to NK Vecna and you think the Janitor was Roleblocked, you must think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna, one to kill him and one to Janitor him, because othewise the roleblock would have prevented the kill as well.

Geddit?

According to the detailed set-up the factional kill and the factional roleblock can’t be assigned to the same scum player. So to kill and RB would need 2 players, but the janitor can carry out one of those actions.

[foodcoats]

I'm at page 131. I will be with you soon.

As scum, I like to be fully caught up and consider the state of the thread before I post. As town, I don’t care.

I completely understand having outside game commitments, but I do think Macca is delaying making any authoritative statements in a way that town wouldn’t feel the need to do.

fwiw Macca has always done this. They catch up and write posts in new tabs and then post them all at once when they've finished reading. It's admittedly weird, but it's NAI for them.

Thanks, I’ll bear that in mind. I’ll keep my policy vote in place for now I guess.

[Jamiet99uk]

I was hoping scum would try to shade Maniac for not getting eaten after claiming VT, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

(Because scum might forget werewolf wouldn't know if maniac was town or scum and just assume he's an eat. If Maniac is town)

He did also retract his claim.

[Jamiet99uk]

If they knew Vecna would die (maybe there's no doctor), then they wouldn't necessarily need to RB him, right? It just worked out that his PR was the one that could still do something N1 if he died. But even if Vecna was RB'd, then either you or damo has to be scum, and I'm not sure why you couldn't be Janitor who was RB'd by town? Am I missing a mechanic?

The Janitor can perform the NK and then clear up the body.
If you think the Mafia tried to NK Vecna and you think the Janitor was Roleblocked, you must think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna, one to kill him and one to Janitor him, because othewise the roleblock would have prevented the kill as well.

Geddit?

According to the detailed set-up the factional kill and the factional roleblock can’t be assigned to the same scum player. So to kill and RB would need 2 players, but the janitor can carry out one of those actions.

Yes Maniac but we were specifically discussing a scenario in which Kgray thinks Vecna wasn't roleblocked and was janitored.

[Fluminator]

I was hoping scum would try to shade Maniac for not getting eaten after claiming VT, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

(Because scum might forget werewolf wouldn't know if maniac was town or scum and just assume he's an eat. If Maniac is town)

He did also retract his claim.

The point of a hardclaim is you can't retract it lol

[ghug]

Kgray can you obvtown soon

I'd argue she has.

Funny, I guess I'm ok with obvtown as a verb as long as it's intransitive.

[ghug]

Jamie/bona not scum together.

I'm not scum with anyone.

Thank you Jimmit, this post was not at all useless.

[Bonatogether]

Kgray can you obvtown soon

I'd argue she has.

Funny, I guess I'm ok with obvtown as a verb as long as it's intransitive.

When did she obvtown?

[Fluminator]

Kgray can you obvtown soon

I'd argue she has.

Funny, I guess I'm ok with obvtown as a verb as long as it's intransitive.

Can you give me 2 posts as examples? Or is when she does a string of posts.

[Bonatogether]

Jamie/bona not scum together.

I'm not scum with anyone.

Thank you Jimmit, this post was not at all useless.

I am scum with people but I'd never admit that.

[foodcoats]

I'm not sure if it's that easy, but I could see that.

also yay *\o/*, pile on more to Macca

Damo and Kak

What do you think of yavu’s interactions with rdr?

What do you think of Flum’s deep dive on brainbomb crumbs?

1) Could be a bit of theatrics but I'm warming a bit to rdr. I think yav is scum thinking he can push an rdr miskill and rdr voteback a bit of OMGUS

2) I've already said a lot about brain. Maybe Flum is trying to generate false thoughts. Both Flum and Yav feature in my guess above as I'm sure you have noted.

Any ww thoughts?

Hmm, okay.

I think werewolves are swag.

[Jamiet99uk]

I was hoping scum would try to shade Maniac for not getting eaten after claiming VT, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

(Because scum might forget werewolf wouldn't know if maniac was town or scum and just assume he's an eat. If Maniac is town)

He did also retract his claim.

The point of a hardclaim is you can't retract it lol

But he did.

What do you conclude from this?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not scum with anyone.

Thank you Jimmit, this post was not at all useless.

I am scum with people but I'd never admit that.

What, in this game, currently?

[Bonatogether]

Thank you Jimmit, this post was not at all useless.

I am scum with people but I'd never admit that.

What, in this game, currently?

It's a joke

[kgray]

The lead celaph put Demon in didn't last. Demon was tied with Kak later on.

We're also not talking about celaph's VCA. We're talking about worcej. He wasn't online (or at least not posting) for the entire time that Demon had *any* votes. He had no posts n1, either. Most of the action happened significantly after he left, so his vote must be taken as early-game memeing - which he did in a townie fashion.

What other people do after celaph votes doesn't discount that he put Demon in the lead though... That's ridiculous.

And I gave celaph's D1 vote as a reason to townread him, and you said it was a pile of crud while refusing to explain your claim that worcej's "meme" vote for Hamilton was towny. It just feels entirely disingenuous to me. I'm not saying worcej's vote was scummy (clearly, he was town) but for you to have worcej as one of your top townreads based on 1) something Chaqa said and 2) a meme vote and then inactivity is just nuts. I think you knew worcej was town.

But fine, you answered my question so I'll go back to ##vote flum.

But putting scum in the lead hours before EoD is much different from putting scum in the lead minutes beforehand, though. Scum are much more likely to do the first than the second. His voting isn't inherently townie.

Fair, but he didn't have to join Demon there as I was actively questioning him when food and Vecna had only recently started the wagon. I don't see why he'd help it take off all of a sudden as scum and I'm giving him townpoints for it.

[kgray]

If I was the Janitor, you think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna but didn't attempt to roleblock him?

If they knew Vecna would die (maybe there's no doctor), then they wouldn't necessarily need to RB him, right? It just worked out that his PR was the one that could still do something N1 if he died. But even if Vecna was RB'd, then either you or damo has to be scum, and I'm not sure why you couldn't be Janitor who was RB'd by town? Am I missing a mechanic?

The Janitor can perform the NK and then clear up the body.
If you think the Mafia tried to NK Vecna and you think the Janitor was Roleblocked, you must think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna, one to kill him and one to Janitor him, because othewise the roleblock would have prevented the kill as well.

Geddit?

Ah, sorry. Yes, I goddit.