MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[kgray]

Can someone make a list of the people who've stated that they were aware of brain's crumbs?

Depends which "crumbs" you're talking about. I think darg, food and I noticed him softing he was watcher and nobody visited darg N1. Flum and (I think) Maniac talked about brain softing that he Watched celaph N1.

[ghug]

You know what, ##vote bona and I'm not moving this until you explain why you thought worcej's D1 vote was towny. You won't get off my back for my townread of celaph but I don't think your townread of worcej was genuine. None of the reasons you gave held up to questioning, and you're avoiding this question so much that I cannot think of any reason for you to not answer it except that you know it was a BS reason in the first place. I think you were jumping on brain's read and looking for reasons to switch to celaph's wagon. And I think my assuming you wouldn't have the nerve to stay off your counter wagon at EOD is dangerously underestimating you.

Omg you're such a follower

[kgray]

You know what, ##vote bona and I'm not moving this until you explain why you thought worcej's D1 vote was towny. You won't get off my back for my townread of celaph but I don't think your townread of worcej was genuine. None of the reasons you gave held up to questioning, and you're avoiding this question so much that I cannot think of any reason for you to not answer it except that you know it was a BS reason in the first place. I think you were jumping on brain's read and looking for reasons to switch to celaph's wagon. And I think my assuming you wouldn't have the nerve to stay off your counter wagon at EOD is dangerously underestimating you.

Omg you're such a follower

Yeah I actually scumread him though.

[Bonatogether]

You know what, ##vote bona and I'm not moving this until you explain why you thought worcej's D1 vote was towny. You won't get off my back for my townread of celaph but I don't think your townread of worcej was genuine. None of the reasons you gave held up to questioning, and you're avoiding this question so much that I cannot think of any reason for you to not answer it except that you know it was a BS reason in the first place. I think you were jumping on brain's read and looking for reasons to switch to celaph's wagon. And I think my assuming you wouldn't have the nerve to stay off your counter wagon at EOD is dangerously underestimating you.

It just seemed genuine. I dunno what you want me to say.

[kgray]

You know what, ##vote bona and I'm not moving this until you explain why you thought worcej's D1 vote was towny. You won't get off my back for my townread of celaph but I don't think your townread of worcej was genuine. None of the reasons you gave held up to questioning, and you're avoiding this question so much that I cannot think of any reason for you to not answer it except that you know it was a BS reason in the first place. I think you were jumping on brain's read and looking for reasons to switch to celaph's wagon. And I think my assuming you wouldn't have the nerve to stay off your counter wagon at EOD is dangerously underestimating you.

It just seemed genuine. I dunno what you want me to say.

You really think this seemed genuine? And that it's townier than making scum a lead wagon?

He tries to make baseless arguements to look like he is reading but actually he isn't. He is observing but tries to keep his distance.

Hmm. I wouldn't characterize Hamilton as making any arguments so far. He's asked a few questions and his comments have mostly just been stating what others have said/done.

So... what are we even doing anymore?

##vote Hamilton

We got'em boy'z!

[Bonatogether]

It just seemed genuine. I dunno what you want me to say.

You really think this seemed genuine? And that it's townier than making scum a lead wagon?

Hmm. I wouldn't characterize Hamilton as making any arguments so far. He's asked a few questions and his comments have mostly just been stating what others have said/done.

So... what are we even doing anymore?

##vote Hamilton

We got'em boy'z!

How do you know the other wagons at that time were scum?

[kgray]

It just seemed genuine. I dunno what you want me to say.

You really think this seemed genuine? And that it's townier than making scum a lead wagon?

So... what are we even doing anymore?

##vote Hamilton

We got'em boy'z!

How do you know the other wagons at that time were scum?

Huh? Celaph put Demon in the lead and Demon flipped scum. You and darg were the competing wagons (Hamilton also with 2) and I'd bet this game on darg being town, so unless you're scum I don't know what you're talking about.

[Bonatogether]

You really think this seemed genuine? And that it's townier than making scum a lead wagon?

How do you know the other wagons at that time were scum?

Huh? Celaph put Demon in the lead and Demon flipped scum. You and darg were the competing wagons (Hamilton also with 2) and I'd bet this game on darg being town, so unless you're scum I don't know what you're talking about.

The lead celaph put Demon in didn't last. Demon was tied with Kak later on.

We're also not talking about celaph's VCA. We're talking about worcej. He wasn't online (or at least not posting) for the entire time that Demon had *any* votes. He had no posts n1, either. Most of the action happened significantly after he left, so his vote must be taken as early-game memeing - which he did in a townie fashion.

[damo666]

Why were you more conscious of celaph being a lead wagon when his wagon was dead?

I think "a lot of the day" explains it.

but his wagon got 1 vote within 4 hours of EoD. Did you not pick up on this at all? Did you miss all of the votes on me?

Go back and read.

[Bonatogether]

I think "a lot of the day" explains it.

but his wagon got 1 vote within 4 hours of EoD. Did you not pick up on this at all? Did you miss all of the votes on me?

Go back and read.

That doesn't cut it - could you not look at the bot to see that your understanding of the game was basically a day out of date at that time?

[kgray]

How do you know the other wagons at that time were scum?

Huh? Celaph put Demon in the lead and Demon flipped scum. You and darg were the competing wagons (Hamilton also with 2) and I'd bet this game on darg being town, so unless you're scum I don't know what you're talking about.

The lead celaph put Demon in didn't last. Demon was tied with Kak later on.

We're also not talking about celaph's VCA. We're talking about worcej. He wasn't online (or at least not posting) for the entire time that Demon had *any* votes. He had no posts n1, either. Most of the action happened significantly after he left, so his vote must be taken as early-game memeing - which he did in a townie fashion.

What other people do after celaph votes doesn't discount that he put Demon in the lead though... That's ridiculous.

And I gave celaph's D1 vote as a reason to townread him, and you said it was a pile of crud while refusing to explain your claim that worcej's "meme" vote for Hamilton was towny. It just feels entirely disingenuous to me. I'm not saying worcej's vote was scummy (clearly, he was town) but for you to have worcej as one of your top townreads based on 1) something Chaqa said and 2) a meme vote and then inactivity is just nuts. I think you knew worcej was town.

But fine, you answered my question so I'll go back to ##vote flum.

[damo666]

but his wagon got 1 vote within 4 hours of EoD. Did you not pick up on this at all? Did you miss all of the votes on me?

Go back and read.

That doesn't cut it - could you not look at the bot to see that your understanding of the game was basically a day out of date at that time?

Why is this so important to you? I answered the initial enquiry about my post and that answer is sufficient. There is nothing more to find.

I think you've added me to the list of people who find you annoying.

[Bonatogether]

Go back and read.

That doesn't cut it - could you not look at the bot to see that your understanding of the game was basically a day out of date at that time?

Why is this so important to you? I answered the initial enquiry about my post and that answer is sufficient. There is nothing more to find.

I think you've added me to the list of people who find you annoying.

Cause your answer doesn't make sense? Should I just spend my time arguing with kgray as to which of us is scum?

[Fluminator]

Kgray can you obvtown soon

[Bonatogether]

Huh? Celaph put Demon in the lead and Demon flipped scum. You and darg were the competing wagons (Hamilton also with 2) and I'd bet this game on darg being town, so unless you're scum I don't know what you're talking about.

The lead celaph put Demon in didn't last. Demon was tied with Kak later on.

We're also not talking about celaph's VCA. We're talking about worcej. He wasn't online (or at least not posting) for the entire time that Demon had *any* votes. He had no posts n1, either. Most of the action happened significantly after he left, so his vote must be taken as early-game memeing - which he did in a townie fashion.

What other people do after celaph votes doesn't discount that he put Demon in the lead though... That's ridiculous.

And I gave celaph's D1 vote as a reason to townread him, and you said it was a pile of crud while refusing to explain your claim that worcej's "meme" vote for Hamilton was towny. It just feels entirely disingenuous to me. I'm not saying worcej's vote was scummy (clearly, he was town) but for you to have worcej as one of your top townreads based on 1) something Chaqa said and 2) a meme vote and then inactivity is just nuts. I think you knew worcej was town.

But fine, you answered my question so I'll go back to ##vote flum.

But putting scum in the lead hours before EoD is much different from putting scum in the lead minutes beforehand, though. Scum are much more likely to do the first than the second. His voting isn't inherently townie.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie/bona not scum together.

I'm not scum with anyone.

[Jamiet99uk]

If I was the Janitor, you think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna but didn't attempt to roleblock him?

If they knew Vecna would die (maybe there's no doctor), then they wouldn't necessarily need to RB him, right? It just worked out that his PR was the one that could still do something N1 if he died. But even if Vecna was RB'd, then either you or damo has to be scum, and I'm not sure why you couldn't be Janitor who was RB'd by town? Am I missing a mechanic?

The Janitor can perform the NK and then clear up the body.
If you think the Mafia tried to NK Vecna and you think the Janitor was Roleblocked, you must think the Mafia sent two people to Vecna, one to kill him and one to Janitor him, because othewise the roleblock would have prevented the kill as well.

Geddit?

[Jamiet99uk]

*otherwise

[Fluminator]

I'm softening on celaph but not fully.

Rdr/kgray/chaqa is where I'm currently at.
I still have concerns with one of Jamiet/damo

Maniac i think is town.
Getting general town vibes from a bunch of other players

[Bonatogether]

I'm softening on celaph but not fully.

Rdr/kgray/chaqa is where I'm currently at.
I still have concerns with one of Jamiet/damo

Maniac i think is town.
Getting general town vibes from a bunch of other players

vote kgray with me!