MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[damo666]

Quite amusing we have a 5 strong worcej wagon with none of rdr celaph or myself on it.

What do you make of this fact and why did you choose to name these 3 people? Bona had the same number of votes as you while Maniac had just been the leading wagon and was voting worcej?

I was pointing out the flashwagon didn't seem to be a save (of those mentioned).

I didn't mention Maniac precisely because he was voting worcej.

Tbh I can't remember why I excluded Bona and included you. Probably I was just more conscious of you having been a lead wagon for a lot of the day.

[Maniac]

@Maniac what are you talking about?

If he watched himself and got a report that celaph had visited he couldn't tell if celaph was driver or doc.

Yes he could. HR has just confirmed that if BB watched himself is he told "BB visited BB"

But if Driver visits, he is told "BB visited Player C (the other person Driver visited) AND Celaph visited Player C.

OK but if brain had anything this specific he would have yelled it so we can dismiss it.

I don't get this arguement that Brain would've shouted confirming a scum N1. It would end with a one for one trade when trying to stay hidden for longer would help town more.

I don't know for sure how BB knew what he clearly indicates he knows, but I think we have to trust him today and kill Celaph today. BB is a smart cookie. Sometimes his pearls of wisdom are lost beneath the mountain of textual diarrhea, but he always reads and understands the set-ups and would no doubt bombard the GMs with queries if he was unsure.

[damo666]

the TLDR is celaph only joined RHK wagon out of fear kgray was about to switch

For those voting celaph because of brain.

Brain's suspicions are seemingly not based on his N1 report.

[damo666]

Yes he could. HR has just confirmed that if BB watched himself is he told "BB visited BB"

But if Driver visits, he is told "BB visited Player C (the other person Driver visited) AND Celaph visited Player C.

OK but if brain had anything this specific he would have yelled it so we can dismiss it.

I don't get this arguement that Brain would've shouted confirming a scum N1. It would end with a one for one trade when trying to stay hidden for longer would help town more.

I don't know for sure how BB knew what he clearly indicates he knows, but I think we have to trust him today and kill Celaph today. BB is a smart cookie. Sometimes his pearls of wisdom are lost beneath the mountain of textual diarrhea, but he always reads and understands the set-ups and would no doubt bombard the GMs with queries if he was unsure.

Maybe you're right but I just can't see brain holding on to such juicy info.

Personally I don't think he learnt anything useful N1.

Now celaph could of course be scum, I just think people should have their own suspicions rather than sheeping brain (who was shading celaph before EON1 anyway iirc).

[Jamiet99uk]

Give me a moment and I'll catch up. Looks like I'm only 7 pages back.

[damo666]

Give me a moment and I'll catch up. Looks like I'm only 7 pages back.

OK JJ

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe he saw celaph visit someone? Maybe he tried to visit celaph and got driven to someone townie?

DUDE are you dense

No, you are. He could have watched someone else and seen celaph.

But didn't he suggest he had watched Celaph?

[Jamiet99uk]

Also I like all the wagons except macca rn, so I'll ##vote kgray in order to make that wagon a thing.

I really hate this thing you do where you don't vote your top scumread, but instead you vote in order to try to make the wagons close.

It's fine as a tactic sometimes, but to openly do it constantly is kind of annoying.

[Jamiet99uk]

it is either

Setup Three

or

Setup Five

one can't be it because of 2 RB's
two can't be it because of inventor exists
four can't be it because of watcher exists
six can't be it because of cop AND stalker exists

Good work, Kakko.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Celaph

I think the only way that Brainbomb can be confident that Celaph is scum is if BB watched Vecna and Celaph did the killing.

If BB watched anyone else and received a report that Celaph visited, he couldn't possibly know that celaph wasn't a PR.

why wouldn't mafia send the ninja? you aren't thinking this through

An excellent observation.

[Chaqa]

##vote Celaph

I think the only way that Brainbomb can be confident that Celaph is scum is if BB watched Vecna and Celaph did the killing.

If BB watched anyone else and received a report that Celaph visited, he couldn't possibly know that celaph wasn't a PR.

why wouldn't mafia send the ninja? you aren't thinking this through

An excellent observation.

Maybe they don’t have one? Or do we know they do? I forget (mostly because it’s 6 Am and why the fuck am I awake

[Jamiet99uk]

Predictable

You knew I would not be rolelblocked?

Predictable you'd vote for me

Of course I voted for you. You are behaving like scum and I think you are scum. Your actions towards me come from a non-town mindset.

[Jamiet99uk]

why wouldn't mafia send the ninja? you aren't thinking this through

An excellent observation.

Maybe they don’t have one? Or do we know they do? I forget (mostly because it’s 6 Am and why the fuck am I awake

Read Kak's post that I quoted on this page.
We KNOW there is a Ninja.

[damo666]

I feel like we have no information to make any decisions off of today so we should start re sorting by todays standards with an eye for the past but not too much of an eye

More evidence brain learnt zilch N1

[damo666]

An excellent observation.

Maybe they don’t have one? Or do we know they do? I forget (mostly because it’s 6 Am and why the fuck am I awake

Read Kak's post that I quoted on this page.
We KNOW there is a Ninja.

We also KNOW there is a Janitor.

[Jamiet99uk]

If brain had watched Vecna he would have shouted from the rooftops.

Agree. Even if he saw nothing. Because if he watches Vecna, sees nobody visit, but Vecna dies, then he 100% knows it was the Ninja.

[Jamiet99uk]

So If Watcher watched themselves and no one visited them, would the watcher receive a report saying the Brainbomb had visited Brainbomb?

To everyone. If this is true then if BB was visited by the driver!Celaph he would get a report saying celaph has visited but NOT a report saying watcher had visited as that would've been switched. So BB COULD be certain celaph is scum.

Oh. This is interesting.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Maniac what are you talking about?

If he watched himself and got a report that celaph had visited he couldn't tell if celaph was driver or doc.

Ah wait, this is also true, because Celaph's visit could have been independent of anything the Driver caused, because by visiting himself Brain would put himself at both ends of the trip, so to speak.

[damo666]

Oh no.

[damo666]

Makes me laugh when people post as they catch up.