MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Maniac]

It could be that BB has worked out who the doctor or Journalist is and that's not Celaph, So when BB has seen celaph visit someone he has concluded he must be scum.

[yavuzovic]

Honestly if Maniac is not yet the top wagon, I would look for scum on other wagons.

[Hamilton Brian]

[/i] ... I think you interpret too much into that. Especially since he redacted it. That is pretty weak sauce. That is unsexy. I don't like this.

Might be something to hold on to. In a read with columns there's the assumption Maniac is werewolf (good daykill if so) who has struck out once or twice. Or not at all. Or Maniac is not the werewolf and we're back to where we started and maybe Maniac is still a good daykill.

[yavuzovic]

I'm catching up, sorry for the absence last night

[yavuzovic]

It could be that BB has worked out who the doctor or Journalist is and that's not Celaph, So when BB has seen celaph visit someone he has concluded he must be scum.

If this is true, I will take back what I said about Maniac wagon

[Hamilton Brian]

Would the driver change Darg's places with someone?

What are the implications here? If this is connected to brain's comments about Darg's house, then driver does change, so what? If not, so what?

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain was quite clear he visited celaph N1 it seems looking at his crumbs.
And he was pretty rigid that celaph specifically was scum.

I think this seems pretty straightforward now that he's been killed and flipped PR.

Yeah I think this is my takeaway as well. ##VOTE celaph

You don't know how a Watcher works either then, hmm?

What is the confusion then; what about the Watcher role would make Celaph a negligible wagon?

[Hamilton Brian]

A WATCHER... sees who visits the player they Watch.

What mafia role would give itself away by being visited?

Maybe he saw celaph visit someone? Maybe he tried to visit celaph and got driven to someone townie?

DUDE are you dense

SO both Jamie and Chaqa are having issues with the Watcher role, Celaph, and potential scumreads. What's the incorrect logic that's happening?

[damo666]

if for any reason I die, assume it isnt based on my reads, and that it is based on how widely I am townread. And I would be highly skeptical of anyone from my survey who answered yes, and later claims to be the doc.

I don't think brain found out anything useful. All this speculation as who he watched and who may have visited them or their driver swap and what role they could be is not helpful. It is just muddying the waters.

[ghug]

Maybe he saw celaph visit someone? Maybe he tried to visit celaph and got driven to someone townie?

DUDE are you dense

SO both Jamie and Chaqa are having issues with the Watcher role, Celaph, and potential scumreads. What's the incorrect logic that's happening?

Flum's initial read of it (that brain had visited celaph and seen him do something) was incorrect, and I piled on there. Chaqa and rd had it right initially, but were then too dense to realize that I did too

[Hamilton Brian]

Brain was quite clear he visited celaph N1 it seems looking at his crumbs.
And he was pretty rigid that celaph specifically was scum.

I think this seems pretty straightforward now that he's been killed and flipped PR.

kgray and celaph scumteammmmmmm

Why so many m's?

[Maniac]

I was not roleblocked this time.

##Vote Maniac

Predictable

You knew I would not be rolelblocked?

Predictable you'd vote for me

[yavuzovic]

rdrivera as Janitor

submitted

This message from watcher. Though I agree with damo666's last message.

[Hamilton Brian]

Err, anyway, so either, there is no janitor or janitor is being saved. Or, janitor was used D1/D2 but roleblocked. Hmm hmm ... if janitor is actually saved that kinda makes me feel maf flum wanted to save janitor maniac, but that would be a very specific scenario.

I feel like that's a big reach with all of the ifs.

We're down to setups 1, 3, and 5 now, right? If we're assuming there's truthfulness about the roleblocking, then 1 is out. That's not a guarantee to have town roleblocker.

If there's truth, then setups 3 and 5 are in play.

My head hurts.

[Maniac]

Rip BrainBomb - the thread won’t be the same without you

Can I get anyone interested in a ##vote Rdriveria daykill?

X-post with Rdriveria.

##unvote

Because he claimed RB or because he voted for me?

Because he claimed Roleblock, but thinking about it it should've been obv that dargo was the mafia roleblock target so if Rdr was roleblocked it would be by town roleblocker. This does raise the possibility that he is the janitor. I'd be surprised if scum didn't try to janitor their kill (assuming it is their kill). They are leaking info to us and we almost have the full set up.

[Chaqa]

It could be that BB has worked out who the doctor or Journalist is and that's not Celaph, So when BB has seen celaph visit someone he has concluded he must be scum.

BRAINBOMB WAS A WATCHER

NOT A TRACKER

SAY IT WITH ME

[Chaqa]

Maybe he saw celaph visit someone? Maybe he tried to visit celaph and got driven to someone townie?

DUDE are you dense

SO both Jamie and Chaqa are having issues with the Watcher role, Celaph, and potential scumreads. What's the incorrect logic that's happening?

Jamie and I are the only ones talking sense

Read the fucking setup

[damo666]

Err, anyway, so either, there is no janitor or janitor is being saved. Or, janitor was used D1/D2 but roleblocked. Hmm hmm ... if janitor is actually saved that kinda makes me feel maf flum wanted to save janitor maniac, but that would be a very specific scenario.

I feel like that's a big reach with all of the ifs.

We're down to setups 1, 3, and 5 now, right? If we're assuming there's truthfulness about the roleblocking, then 1 is out. That's not a guarantee to have town roleblocker.

If there's truth, then setups 3 and 5 are in play.

My head hurts.

Assuming darg was scumRBd the only way 1 is in play is for both rdr and Jamie to be lying. I think this most unlikely and we can proceed with the assumption 1 is not in play.

[damo666]

Given Janitor in play I think either Jamie or rdr must be Janitor. We don't have to vote for either though, werewolf can consume.

[Hamilton Brian]

I'm looking at brain's posts some more and his crumbs make no sense.

Was there anything that made sense? I think they're like a mad scientist. Once the game is done then we go back over all his posts then slap our heads because of the brilliance of it all.