MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

Good morning! Wow, ya'll were busy.

Picking up from page 86ish and will roll forward until I catch up.

Anything of significant note?

I see 5 names on the block and a couple of End votes.

[Hamilton Brian]

If werewolf tried to eat darg last night, they should claim.

Darg or the werewolf?

[Hamilton Brian]

Going to be incredibly honest - I am 55 pages behind and will not do my normal catchup style because you'll all hate me.

Highlights I see are good job on DemonRHK, a D1 scum hit is always excellent, and once again Vecna was N1 fearkilled by a scum team concerned with his solving, which narrows down a few potential people for a scum pool (kgray, Fluminator, darg, Chaqa, and Jamie).

In other non-mafia game news, pretty sure Yavuz was featured in today's TommyK's HOI4 video. That was neat to see.

Also, working straight GYs blows.

Not a fan of this. Smells fakey as ...

[Hamilton Brian]

My vote is no. I can explain more if needed.

Obviously I am catching up, and if you've answered I'll find it, but in the meantime, I'd like you to know I am interested in your explanation.

[Jamiet99uk]

IMO there was no wolf attempt last night. At least not a successful one. We had one death. Scum killed vecna. They would not have driven their own death target. (I suppose they might have done a switcheroo thing, but why would they risk other actions with someone in the game who can watch them?) They killed vecna as a fear-kill. But isn’t it pretty well standard to RB the one you kill as scum?

So maybe kak doesn’t really have the gun.

Only one way to find out.

Kak, announce your target and shoot someone 24 hours out from EoD.

Does this make sense?

Oh great point. If nobody has an item then one of damo or Jamie is basically confirmed scum. There's no way Vecna wouldn't have given something out. But the issue is that even if kak doesn't have a gun, that doesn't mean nobody got an item.

But I still think announcing a target or fake EOD is a good idea.

The problem with this theory is, if scum got an item that wasn't the gun, then they could just keep silent about that, in order to put heat on myself, or Damian.

[Hamilton Brian]

so why would scum want werewolf to fail at killing the cop

Well the logical conclusion is that darg is scum.

Darg was saved or is scum.

Ah, that's pretty spicy. Makes sense why you switched from Celaph. I was wondering that, and it's been in the back of my mind since their post about having a townclear.

[kgray]

IMO there was no wolf attempt last night. At least not a successful one. We had one death. Scum killed vecna. They would not have driven their own death target. (I suppose they might have done a switcheroo thing, but why would they risk other actions with someone in the game who can watch them?) They killed vecna as a fear-kill. But isn’t it pretty well standard to RB the one you kill as scum?

So maybe kak doesn’t really have the gun.

Only one way to find out.

Kak, announce your target and shoot someone 24 hours out from EoD.

Does this make sense?

Oh great point. If nobody has an item then one of damo or Jamie is basically confirmed scum. There's no way Vecna wouldn't have given something out. But the issue is that even if kak doesn't have a gun, that doesn't mean nobody got an item.

But I still think announcing a target or fake EOD is a good idea.

The problem with this theory is, if scum got an item that wasn't the gun, then they could just keep silent about that, in order to put heat on myself, or Damian.

Yes, that too.

[brainbomb]

its day 2 in a 20 player game with multiple scum and a WW still alive

PUT
DOWN
VOTES

TALK
PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME PEOPLE

WAKE YOUR ASSES UP

stop fucking coasting on one dead scum stop worrying about guns and who got scanned and just play

[Hamilton Brian]

Putting this together, I think the most likely people to be scum are in the group that isn't mentioned above. That leaves, to me:
- Yavu
- Worcej
- Rivera
- ghug
- Hamilton
- Jamiet
- Macca

Cross-referencing with the group I put together with the non-RHK voters, Brainbomb, Damo (who rested on Kak all day), Darg, ghug, jamie, kak, macca, rdr, worcej, Yav, and myself

Are there reasons you're not including brain, damo, and darg in your list of likely scum?

Of your list and mine, I'd say look more closely at worcej, RDR, macca.

[Jamiet99uk]

its day 2 in a 20 player game with multiple scum and a WW still alive

PUT
DOWN
VOTES

TALK
PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME PEOPLE

WAKE YOUR ASSES UP

stop fucking coasting on one dead scum stop worrying about guns and who got scanned and just play

There have been 519 posts so far and more than half the phase is left. The majority of players have posted more than 12 times. Only Macca and Maniac are truly not participating.

Why are you so agitated and making this noise about non-participation when, as a matter of fact, plenty has already been discussed today?

[Hamilton Brian]

I that Hamilton disappearing after your claim is somewhat wsuspicious, considering he's one of your top scumreads. He could be spooked, and it kind of reminds me of him avoiding the thread after he started to get pressure for his votes a couple games ago.

Nah, just didn't pay attention to the claim all that much. They said they had a lesser urge to shoot me, then a greater urge. Just thought if they're going to vacillate so much over it that late for me, I'd address it as I thought necessary. They way they went back and forth didn't seem like anything for me to take seriously, and I still don't.

[Hamilton Brian]

So the impression is that two things are going to happen today.

Someone gets shot. Another person gets daykilled. About right?

Wait a second though, I've ISO'd Kak around this whole gun thing. It's not decisive that Kak even has a gun.

[brainbomb]

In 6 hours we are supposedly using kaks gun to kill the lead wagon. A few problems with that.
First there is no lead wagon
Second the wagons in the lead currently all are only 2 person wagons

Regardless of whether the majority of players has supposedly participated is not the issue

Non-votes
Bonatogether
celaph
Chaqa
damo666
dargorygel
Hamilton Brian
Kakarroto
Macca573
rdrivera2005
worcej


an enormity of players arent even voting with 6 hours to go on a gun deadline.

we have two people endhammering on an unccd cop claimaint who is being advised not to reveal his results.

1/5 of the posts today are just mine so saying theres 519 posts is fucking stupid since youve called for me to silence myself so the thread can just quietly fester in limbo until kak shoots a two wagon?

the rest of the days topic has exclusively been about kaks gun, dargs claim or my survey. none of which is hunting or helpful to us using this day effectively.

[Hamilton Brian]

For what it's worth, I didn't expect Darg to be the NK. I was/still am suspicious of the claim, retraction, etc.

[foodcoats]

For what it's worth, I didn't expect Darg to be the NK. I was/still am suspicious of the claim, retraction, etc.

Jump in the mix with me HB, HAMMER DAT SCUMMY BOI.

[brainbomb]

if you want me to shut up I will shut up. but dont fucking sit here when people are creating gun deadlines and tell me 11 non voters is activity

[Hamilton Brian]

For what it's worth, I didn't expect Darg to be the NK. I was/still am suspicious of the claim, retraction, etc.

Jump in the mix with me HB, HAMMER DAT SCUMMY BOI.

Yeah, not sure. I'm pretty game to the Celaph wagon too. I am trying to connect the dots to understand brain's wholehearted conviction that Celaph is scum. My sheeping is pretty blatant.

[kgray]

Will somebody talk to me about worcej? I think he's contributed nothing to this game besides starting drama and I think he's scum, but I also am suspicious that my emotions are getting in the way.

I think Hamilton is remarkably nonchalant about kak's gun and I can't decide whether that's townie or if there's something more behind it.

I legitimately think ghug is scum.

I had a gross feeling that food's been trying to set me up, but he's not harping on it as much as I originally thought he would be.

[Hamilton Brian]

For what it's worth, I didn't expect Darg to be the NK. I was/still am suspicious of the claim, retraction, etc.

Jump in the mix with me HB, HAMMER DAT SCUMMY BOI.

Yeah, not sure. I'm pretty game to the Celaph wagon too. I am trying to connect the dots to understand brain's wholehearted conviction that Celaph is scum. My sheeping is pretty blatant.

But my ambivalence to Flum would be the counter to me joining that Celaph wagon. I trust brain, don't trust flum.

However, both jamie and food are town reads of mine. Sheeping them makes Darg a reasonable vote.

[dargorygel]

Ok… in for a vote.

Some general observations. Not organized as reads… but there is a chance I’m going to be the target of kak’s gun. (See below) so here’s my comments.

I am not excited about maniac’s lack of involvement. Again, though, I think maniac is a better player than to lurk THIS much as scum. Maybe ww, I suppose. But even so, lately we’ve been more harsh on lurkers. I don’t see him doing this.

I think Jamie, as scum, would not press against me so much. I’m agonna die. He would let it happen. I feel similarly about food.

Both Jamie and brain are squabbling with each other, and reading each other in the worst possible light. Which makes me lean town on both of them.

The suspicions about celaph are valid. His posts are agreeable, nodding across the table from whomever is speaking.

I could vote for bona, still. Kgray is drawing attention to herself with her hurt feelings, which I don’t think she’d do as scum.

Ghug is solvey.

The rest haven’t stood out to me.

But kak either has a gun, or he’s scum. I already was scumreading him, so this vote makes sense to me. If he shoots someone, I’ll move my vote, likely. Although vecna MIGHT have accidentally gunned up a scum.

##VOTE kakarroto