MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[yavuzovic]

I don't like this post because it's unnecessary and unprompted elaboration on someone else's kinda old comment. Bad vibes, really

I don't know why you think it's scummy to react to an old post. Last 2 hours passed me trying to cath up and I started from the point I left, and I reacted to every message I found worthy. You may be right about the necessity, but I guess I would be more careful if I were mafia.

You can't use the thing I said about how scum should be careful what they post to pass off an careless comment. Major scumpoints for that.

I also made a comment about this earlier, I didn't steal your argument and even if I did, it's a logical arguement.

[foodcoats]

Scum players are always (or should always be) self-aware of what their posts look like.

I agree and being careless is a towny behaviour. When I was scum, I used to reread all my messages before posting so I wouldn't scumslip. Posting careful is NAI but posting careless is town-ish.

I don't like this post because it's unnecessary and unprompted elaboration on someone else's kinda old comment. Bad vibes, really

Bona, you’ve pointed out a lot of things you don’t like. What have you really liked so far? Who do you townread?

[celaph]

##vote kakarroto

Damo hates fun. I think this suggests damo is town.

what about kakarrotto has been fun so far?

thats now two people who have defended kak, stating he was fun, or wacky, or both

What I dislike here is that you're framing this as an achievement or a gotcha while totally removing it from the context that it was in. The post you're quoting was from 3 hours into D1. Food has found kak fun on the basis of a single message at the time, that message being the one encouraging people to engage in the flavor and play as minor gods. The hardly qualifies as a real defense.

Has kak been wacky or fun since then? Obviously not, he hasn't done anything. But given the timing and context that says very little about food imo.

[yavuzovic]

I don't have solid arguements for the following people but I got some impressions by reading the old pages:
Town leaning reads:
ghug
kgray
jamiet99uk
celaph
Scum leaning reads:
Bonatogether

Also Hamilton Brian 's posts sound like a novice mafia. I think I will vote for him. ##vote Hamilton Brian

what does a novice mafia do that an expert mafia or amatuer mafia do

He tries to make baseless arguements to look like he is reading but actually he isn't. He is observing but tries to keep his distance.

[celaph]

Brain's for sure scum.

Ghug, you’ve sort of flippantly called brain, kgray and Chaqa scum. I don’t get the impression you actually think any of them ARE scum... but you haven’t called anyone else scum, other than sheeping Vecna onto Maniac... which also strikes me as unserious.

Is there anyone you seriously think might be scum at this point?

I like this line of questioning from food.

[brainbomb]

youve been pretty solidly against everything ive said so far celaph. whether it was calling me a soulless politician to saying I wanna misrep macca in everyway possible to suit my nefarious goals and now im posthumously implying vecna and foodcoats didnt randomly call kak funny and wacky.

[brainbomb]

kinda feels like youre out to get me celaph

[yavuzovic]

this implies you think Vecna is town, and an authority over public opinion.
Do you fear Vecna will sway the game his way?

This post makes brain less scummy in my eyes and makes me suspicious about Bona. Like Bone, I townread Vecna too but he assumed that Vecna is town when writing this. Does Bona know who's mafia and who's not? We have the werewolf though. It's still suspicious and I'm fine with switching my vote to Bona. I just need to catch up so I can see the thread clearer.

I do not townread Vecna as strongly as people seem to think. He's more very soft town, but I would use that phrasing regardless of my perception of the other player.

I know that you didn't say you townread him. You just assumed that Vecna is town as if you knew this already.

[brainbomb]

oh and asking me who id planned on voting pre bona. A question which was a toss up between ghug or jamie if you must know

[Hamilton Brian]

what does a novice mafia do that an expert mafia or amatuer mafia do

He tries to make baseless arguements to look like he is reading but actually he isn't. He is observing but tries to keep his distance.

Give me a baseless argument I've made. I'm still reading from earlier so I'm not in any capacity to argue anything.

[yavuzovic]

I don't have solid arguements for the following people but I got some impressions by reading the old pages:
Town leaning reads:
ghug
kgray
jamiet99uk
celaph
Scum leaning reads:
Bonatogether

Also Hamilton Brian 's posts sound like a novice mafia. I think I will vote for him. ##vote Hamilton Brian

Why is HB being voted here if I'm your only scumlean?

I was clear about it not being my full reads list. The list only contains people that I can't make a solid arguement against. I also scumread damo666 and brainbomb apart from these names.

[brainbomb]

do you scumread 100% of the kakarrotto voters but you arent arguing kak is town

[brainbomb]

I wanna point out our little Austrian friend has been lurking the thread for for hours not posting. how fun and wacky. such a wacky guy

[brainbomb]

I feel like im not fun anymore.

[foodcoats]

Rereading celaph’s iso reminds me a bit of my own scum play. There are some big analytical posts that seem lacking in emotional punch, immediacy, context.

With this in mind, I wonder if celaph is scum, is bona also scum parking a vote to eventually leverage that into distancing/defending or something? Bona has scum reads, has said he town leans celaph, and yet is still parking. Seems unfavourable to town. In addition bona is pretty aggro but not towards celaph, who he is “watching”?

Chaqa’s iso feels too cutting and analytical to be scum Chaqa so I feel good about town!Chaqa.

Slightly aggravating that Kak and Macca get temporary passes find they pre-claimed absence. Rereading rdr’s intro makes me think scummy again.

HB seems pretty naively town. I don’t have any meta so not sure if that’s telling in any way.

[foodcoats]

This post makes brain less scummy in my eyes and makes me suspicious about Bona. Like Bone, I townread Vecna too but he assumed that Vecna is town when writing this. Does Bona know who's mafia and who's not? We have the werewolf though. It's still suspicious and I'm fine with switching my vote to Bona. I just need to catch up so I can see the thread clearer.

I do not townread Vecna as strongly as people seem to think. He's more very soft town, but I would use that phrasing regardless of my perception of the other player.

I know that you didn't say you townread him. You just assumed that Vecna is town as if you knew this already.

Hmmmm rereading that thread is interesting. But... I dunno, why does Bona saying Vecna can’t “read into” something imply bona KNOWS Vecna is town, hence scum?

Yavu you seem to be reaching to latch onto something that was a reach in the first place... but it’s also odd that bona ACCEPTS that people think he townreads Vecna. Quickly scanning bona’s iso again and he never claims it, he even distances from it by saying “whether or not Vecna is town” (paraphrasing). So that’s very bizarre. It seems to me town would say “dafuq when i townread vecna?”

[brainbomb]

so HB is naively town and Novice Scum. and not a single one of kgray, ghug, vecna, maniac, damo, or Jamie has any opinion on Hamilton. players who all have more logged hours playing with hamilton than any of us

[brainbomb]

Hmm, I gotta think here. but hamilton is probably scum

[Hamilton Brian]

Hmm, I gotta think here. but hamilton is probably scum

I think you'd recall my single shot as scum since we were in on it together. If I recall, there were comments made about my different presentation.

Anyway, I'm not scum, but if you want to waste time tunneling me, have at it.

[Hamilton Brian]

What was with Demon's weird fixation with boy bands? Was I missing something there? Not in on the joke?