MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Chaqa]

This looks like some classic TvT to me. But it is also interesting that Bona wants to defend Macca so hard... I would expect town to flip it and say brain is scum fabricating a reason to vote, rather than defending.

Macca and Bona scum team?

##VOTE bonatogether

Scum tick. If you think player X is scum defending scum player Z, you should vote Z first, because X could be town defending scum incorrectly. Logically you should want to vote Macca, not bona.

Why is town wrongfully defending scum more common than scum white knighting though?

Why would scum!bona go out on a limb to defend town!Macca???

[Vecna]

This looks like some classic TvT to me. But it is also interesting that Bona wants to defend Macca so hard... I would expect town to flip it and say brain is scum fabricating a reason to vote, rather than defending.

Macca and Bona scum team?

##VOTE bonatogether

Scum tick. If you think player X is scum defending scum player Z, you should vote Z first, because X could be town defending scum incorrectly. Logically you should want to vote Macca, not bona.

That's actually a very interesting point. I hadn't considered that. I didn't find Macca's posts very interesting and had kind of "forgotten" them; it was bona that was "before my mind." In retrospect, Macca's posts were a little fluffy, as Macca dwelled on the flavour. Which is what I accused celaph of and linked to scumliness. So, hm.

Yeah, a good point, and I accept my flawed logic. Chaqa is Lord of Deduction for today.

bona still seems a good vote to keep a wagon.

LET'S SEE SOME MORE VOTES FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY PLOX AND THOX.

Hmmm. Surprising he didnt pose the same counter-question as me.

Does town question the logic of chaqas argument easier? Because scum white knighting should be such an easy rebuttal here

[Vecna]

Scum tick. If you think player X is scum defending scum player Z, you should vote Z first, because X could be town defending scum incorrectly. Logically you should want to vote Macca, not bona.

Why is town wrongfully defending scum more common than scum white knighting though?

Why would scum!bona go out on a limb to defend town!Macca???

I mean, theres a ton of reasons to do that?

[dargorygel]

Macca opens with some weak post.
Brain accuses macca of opening with some weak post.
(This is pretty normal drive by brain stuff. Macca had not written enough to cause a disertation. Brain did not write one. Just scatter shot)
Bona went overboard defending macca.
If macca is scum, we could see bona as defending, and vote macca.
But we don't see enough from macca to even guess
So.
I find bona suspicious for his over the top defense.
Not sure yet what to think of macca.
But bona could be setting up a "look good" if macca flips town.

I can go here.
##vote bonatogether

[Vecna]

Regardless of whether or not Vecna is town, there's no basis for making a read off of it.

Youre normally completely fine with it if I take a random D1 post of you and townread you for it though

When was this?

Like, every single game were town together, pretty much

[Vecna]

Here is a player really excited to play something else.

I mean, hades is pretty good

how much bread can one acquire in this hades you speak of

I wanna say zero, but there might be some exception im forgetting about

[Vecna]

ok, this has been delightful. bye

[brainbomb]

Oh, phase shift is at 5P in my local time instead of usual 6.

I'm sure that won't fuck me up at all. /s

S/o to the GM for the heads up I got drafted. Let's get this bread.

what does this mean to you?
and how will he be obtaining said bread by playing path of exile

[brainbomb]

I feel like I am Jamie in this talking point

[brainbomb]

I guess its just weird to be like

OH FUCK YEA I GOT SUBBED IN
and the next post hes like
Alright time to go do something that inspires my love of greek mythology

[Hamilton Brian]

Let me just put this out there because I am curious... is there value to doing any role claims now? Later on?

Ah, trying the "2 scummy 2 be scum" strategy.

Werewolf in sheep's clothing pretending to be a werewolf?

I feel like you're throwing some unnecessary shade my way. But when you put it that way, I kind of see how dumb and anti-town an idea it is. Never mind.

[brainbomb]

DemonRHK subbing in is NAI

[Bonatogether]

Youre normally completely fine with it if I take a random D1 post of you and townread you for it though

When was this?

Like, every single game were town together, pretty much

I don't remember this.

[Bonatogether]

Macca opens with some weak post.
Brain accuses macca of opening with some weak post.
(This is pretty normal drive by brain stuff. Macca had not written enough to cause a disertation. Brain did not write one. Just scatter shot)
Bona went overboard defending macca.
If macca is scum, we could see bona as defending, and vote macca.
But we don't see enough from macca to even guess
So.
I find bona suspicious for his over the top defense.
Not sure yet what to think of macca.
But bona could be setting up a "look good" if macca flips town.

I can go here.
##vote bonatogether

The problem with this is that I am not claiming macca is town but that their first open is not alignment indicative.

[brainbomb]

it was ghug who accused macca of a scummy opening post. not me.

bona replied to ghug no its NAI and ghug accepted that answer without much discussion.

[DemonRHK]

@brain
You seem to have a dislike of kpop and I would dare guess boy bands in general.
Tell me why.

Also I likely overstated my focus on playing PoE. I'm only like level 22 in the new league. I've got a lot on my plate but I'm still gonna try to Bone this Scone.Yeet this yeast. To be fair given my normal level of participation that's a low ass bar to clear (as you saw after kgray's death in our mason game)

On a more serious note I'm not a fan of Bona's whole nullread arguement. It made more sense on clarification but that can be a revisionist backtrack as well. In a game where we need to focus on people's reads and case rather than mechanical narrowing, at least while our furry neighbor still breathes, more data is always better. It's why is was a bit shocking when there hasn't been quite the usual D1 sprint, though we are looking to get there.

[brainbomb]

##vote celaph until he obvtowns

Its kinda weird you do this for celaph but cling vehemently to your NAI stance on macca. can you explain why you treat celaph entirely different than macca?

[DemonRHK]

it was ghug who accused macca of a scummy opening post. not me.

bona replied to ghug no its NAI and ghug accepted that answer without much discussion.

without fact checking ghug accepted it out of hand, this point is getting lost in the bona discussion that is all stemmed from macca as a fulcrum.

[brainbomb]

Can I just be Aeneas?

I'd say first come, first served! (nice choice btw!)

Wait, I thought we were the demigods, and the mafia were the 'minor' gods?

*quickly rereads flavour* no, the enemies are the titans, not the gods, titans like Chronos (who is Zeus father but not a god. That might be somewhat confusing, but that's how the greek saw it).

Yeah, but the minor gods are assisting the titans.

this exchange alone does not seem NAI to me at all. Macca is trying to understand what the bad guys flavor is and kak is offering clarity on it

[brainbomb]

Not all of them, some don't. In the flavour it's "with many of the 'minor' gods defecting to the Titan side.", so being a minor god isn't automatically a sign for supporting the titans.

I've read Percy Jackson, and I can't remember a single one that didn't...

Oh ok, I didn't, I think I saw one movie some time ago and read the flavour text from HR, so I'm not educated in the book lore.

This seems like t-t discussion. even though its mostly flavor banter