Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[damo666]

##unend

hold on

[damo666]

I am not alien. Worcej is lying.

Scum worcej can allow infected town me to die because it reduces the town/mafia ratio and alien cannot win during the night as Mafia can hold their kill. Mafia (worcej) reveals the real alien tomorrow.

D6 dk Damo
N6 no kill
D7 kill alien

They then go into N7 5-2 down they kill a clear and it goes to 4-2.
D8 dk worcej 4-1.
N8 nk another clear 3-1.

Go into d9 with:

a) Vecna, Maniac, rdr and ghug if Bob is alien
b) Bob, Vecna, rdr and Maniac if ghug is alien
c) Bob, Maniac, rdr and ghug if Vecna is alien

At this stage town has to get it right. This is how I would vote

a) ghug
b) rdr
c) rdr? Don't like this one.

Suddenly town's odds are not so good.

##vote ghug

If enough people switch to ghug and ghug is not alien worcej will have to squeal.

That plan gives town better odds than miskilling me.

Remember I am the only non alien worcej can allow to be killed.

[Jamiet99uk]

3-1 to town

miskill 2-1

scum NKs and it's 1-1.

Draw, no?

Lol what? Have you ever played an endgame before? Scum win if they have equal numbers, because they can force no-kills and kill at night.

Yeah Ghug is correct. The only way that's ever a draw is if the one remaining town is some kind of overpowered protective that can save themselves every night. Otherwise the day vote is a draw and then the one remaining Mafioso kills the one remaining Townie at night.

[Jamiet99uk]

If enough people switch to ghug and ghug is not alien worcej will have to squeal.

Worcej has already told us that Ghug is not the Alien.

He has told us that you are the Alien, Damo.

[Jamiet99uk]

So, the likely consequence of Damo's plan is maybe Ghug gets some votes and then Worcej says "I already told you that Damo was the Alien, not Ghug" and those votes move back onto Damo.

A fine strategy.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Gugh

[ghug]

3-1 to town

miskill 2-1

scum NKs and it's 1-1.

Draw, no?

Lol what? Have you ever played an endgame before? Scum win if they have equal numbers, because they can force no-kills and kill at night.

Yeah Ghug is correct. The only way that's ever a draw is if the one remaining town is some kind of overpowered protective that can save themselves every night. Otherwise the day vote is a draw and then the one remaining Mafioso kills the one remaining Townie at night.

The only way there's a draw is if the GM fucks up.

I'm curious in this game if the mafia would autowin if they got to equal numbers with town but there were still players infected.

[ghug]

So, the likely consequence of Damo's plan is maybe Ghug gets some votes and then Worcej says "I already told you that Damo was the Alien, not Ghug" and those votes move back onto Damo.

A fine strategy.

I do wonder if damo's right that worcej is lying to us, but I'm not really sure what to do about it.

[worcej]

We gave you one of us (me), you owe us a clear to be even close to equal.

Oh you're actually hardclaiming scum?

Thanks. Bold move but the right one if we want to stop the tentacled horror from outer space.

I softed it enough today and apparently only a few of you seemed to see it.

[worcej]

Well, I don't see any other option then ##vote Damo

Woŕcej outing this early is a bit weird as I think Damo would have been killed anyway.

But I am willing to honor Vecna deal.

This came early due to RL stuff (work and meetings) that will prevent me being able to be around.

You all didn’t catch the hint or soft, so here is my hard prod at you.

[worcej]

Rolling into said meetings in less than 10 minutes.

Damo is alien. He needs to die because if he lived through today we saw no way to win by withholding the NK, which we would need to do to prevent an alien win. There are too many clears to hold kills, thus why I am saying you need to sacrifice a clear.

If damo is dealt with today, then we can withhold a kill tonight. If you guys go back on our deal and flip me tomorrow, we have good odds of forcing an alien victory even after Damo dies. We have to play a fine game of dealing with any remaining infectees that my partner could make it to lilo and have a remote chance.

This is the scum’s only chance and thus, my hard claim since you all didn’t see the ‘subtle’ attempts.

[damo666]

Lol what? Have you ever played an endgame before? Scum win if they have equal numbers, because they can force no-kills and kill at night.

Yeah Ghug is correct. The only way that's ever a draw is if the one remaining town is some kind of overpowered protective that can save themselves every night. Otherwise the day vote is a draw and then the one remaining Mafioso kills the one remaining Townie at night.

The only way there's a draw is if the GM fucks up.

I'm curious in this game if the mafia would autowin if they got to equal numbers with town but there were still players infected.

alien&inf count/total
now 4/9
dk me 3/8
alien infects 4/8
dk alien 3/7
nk uninfected [v possible] 3/6
dk worcej who if uninfected means alien victory 3/5

@worcej you have to tell the truth oterwise you are risking alien victory.

Just tell us please. We can then kill the alien. 3/8.
You can then NK me 2/7.
Dk you 2/6 say
NK wrong 2/5
DK wrong (very unlikely as Jamie will have more info) 2/4
???

[damo666]

Rolling into said meetings in less than 10 minutes.

Damo is alien. He needs to die because if he lived through today we saw no way to win by withholding the NK, which we would need to do to prevent an alien win. There are too many clears to hold kills, thus why I am saying you need to sacrifice a clear.

If damo is dealt with today, then we can withhold a kill tonight. If you guys go back on our deal and flip me tomorrow, we have good odds of forcing an alien victory even after Damo dies. We have to play a fine game of dealing with any remaining infectees that my partner could make it to lilo and have a remote chance.

This is the scum’s only chance and thus, my hard claim since you all didn’t see the ‘subtle’ attempts.

@worcej reveal alien now and NK me tonight.

You then still have a reasonable chance and we get rid of the alien.

[damo666]

worcej is not dealing in good faith.

[worcej]

Rolling into said meetings in less than 10 minutes.

Damo is alien. He needs to die because if he lived through today we saw no way to win by withholding the NK, which we would need to do to prevent an alien win. There are too many clears to hold kills, thus why I am saying you need to sacrifice a clear.

If damo is dealt with today, then we can withhold a kill tonight. If you guys go back on our deal and flip me tomorrow, we have good odds of forcing an alien victory even after Damo dies. We have to play a fine game of dealing with any remaining infectees that my partner could make it to lilo and have a remote chance.

This is the scum’s only chance and thus, my hard claim since you all didn’t see the ‘subtle’ attempts.

@worcej reveal alien now and NK me tonight.

You then still have a reasonable chance and we get rid of the alien.

I have. And we already tried to NK you.

I told you earlier - you can stop acting now.

[Maniac]

I've explained this a bazillion times. Scum worcej can allow infected town me to die because it reduces the town/mafia ratio and alien cannot win during the night as Mafia can hold their kill. Mafia (worcej) reveals the real alien tomorrow.

Got it?

D6 dk Damo
N6 no kill
D7 kill alien

They then go into N7 5-2 down they kill a clear (you or Fox say) and it goes to 4-2.
D8 dk worcej 4-1.
N8 nk another clear 3-1.

Go into d9 with:

a) Vecna, Maniac, rdr and ghug if Bob is alien
b) Bob, Vecna, rdr and Maniac if ghug is alien
c) Bob, Maniac, rdr and ghug if Vecna is alien

From there it's either town victory or miskill followed by draw.

Actually this is new. Scum could get an honourable draw. Well played worcej.

How's that a draw? We just lose on a miskill.

3-1 to town

miskill 2-1

scum NKs and it's 1-1.

Draw, no?

In a community the IQ is the IQ of the lowest member divided by the number of people in the community #we’rescrewed

[damo666]

OK town.

dk worcej d8 whatever he pleas or bargains.

Better an alien victory than lying scumbag deceitful shitty Mafia.

[President Eden]

GREETINGS, MORTALS.

I WILL BE STEPPING IN PERIODICALLY THROUGH THE WEEKEND TO PROVIDE VOTE COUNT UPDATES AND FIELD GM CALLS.

VOTE COUNT UPDATE IMMINENT, STAND BY.

[ghug]

Rolling into said meetings in less than 10 minutes.

Damo is alien. He needs to die because if he lived through today we saw no way to win by withholding the NK, which we would need to do to prevent an alien win. There are too many clears to hold kills, thus why I am saying you need to sacrifice a clear.

If damo is dealt with today, then we can withhold a kill tonight. If you guys go back on our deal and flip me tomorrow, we have good odds of forcing an alien victory even after Damo dies. We have to play a fine game of dealing with any remaining infectees that my partner could make it to lilo and have a remote chance.

This is the scum’s only chance and thus, my hard claim since you all didn’t see the ‘subtle’ attempts.

@worcej reveal alien now and NK me tonight.

You then still have a reasonable chance and we get rid of the alien.

I have. And we already tried to NK you.

I told you earlier - you can stop acting now.

Why did you try to nightkill damo?

[President Eden]

VOTE COUNT UPDATE THE nTH: WOW GOLLY GEE IT SURE IS LATE IN THIS HERE GAME EH? EDITION

damo666 (8): ghug, worcej, BobMcBob, Vecna, Maniac, rdrivera2005, Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk
ghug (1): damo666

Currently y'all are set to proceed to the Elite Eight without damo666, who will be unceremoniously ejected from The Big Dance in 02h06m.