Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[BobMcBob]

I'm just being paranoid. The "everybody vote for damo and see if scum ratify it" plan has the same teleological problem as the Maniac plan.

but at least were actually guaranteed to hit infected
with this gamble, if i havent been infected, you lose, even if scum hits infected tonight
and this plan doesnt actually allow scum to guide the wagon, it just incorrectly drives me up a wall unless someone sees the problem and dissents
but anybody who does suddenly, mysteriously, looks a lot like scum

[BobMcBob]

Bob seems displeased by recent events.

because the plan is misguided and dysfunctional and has a pretty good chance of us autolosing?

[rdrivera2005]

Bob seems displeased by recent events.

because the plan is misguided and dysfunctional and has a pretty good chance of us autolosing?

Come on, how a Maniac plan wouldn't work as a charm?

Maybe suggest another plan, like everybody vote Worcej in a random order.

In fact, this remember me a Monty Python thing, about a witch and a duck or something like that.

[Maniac]

I'm just being paranoid. The "everybody vote for damo and see if scum ratify it" plan has the same teleological problem as the Maniac plan.

but at least were actually guaranteed to hit infected
with this gamble, if i havent been infected, you lose, even if scum hits infected tonight
and this plan doesnt actually allow scum to guide the wagon, it just incorrectly drives me up a wall unless someone sees the problem and dissents
but anybody who does suddenly, mysteriously, looks a lot like scum

[BobMcBob]

I'm just being paranoid. The "everybody vote for damo and see if scum ratify it" plan has the same teleological problem as the Maniac plan.

but at least were actually guaranteed to hit infected
with this gamble, if i havent been infected, you lose, even if scum hits infected tonight
and this plan doesnt actually allow scum to guide the wagon, it just incorrectly drives me up a wall unless someone sees the problem and dissents
but anybody who does suddenly, mysteriously, looks a lot like scum

oh dangit, you caught me
because of my grammatical error i am guaranteed the alien, we win

[BobMcBob]

okay i have a really *great* original plan guys
lets all vote jamie in the order
foxcastle
worcej
jamie
ghug
rdr
vecna
maniac
damo
if we all do this we confirm that he is 100% guaranteed alien

[Maniac]

but at least were actually guaranteed to hit infected
with this gamble, if i havent been infected, you lose, even if scum hits infected tonight
and this plan doesnt actually allow scum to guide the wagon, it just incorrectly drives me up a wall unless someone sees the problem and dissents
but anybody who does suddenly, mysteriously, looks a lot like scum

oh dangit, you caught me
because of my grammatical error i am guaranteed the alien, we win

Verum in syntaxi

[damo666]

I dislike how much Damo seems to want to be ushering this along.

Maniac's plan doesn't leave a lot of room for dissent and has an inherent teleological problem.

I want scum to be comfortable signalling that we've got the alien wagoned, or that we're wrong, without having to give themselves up. That's the only way they're going to cooperate in this.

Maniac suggested that his plan did provide scum with just that kind of safety, did he not?

Maniac, why are you wrong?

He was a bit silly with the order. Maybe he is scum trying to tell us?

[Vecna]

Bob seems displeased by recent events.

because the plan is misguided and dysfunctional and has a pretty good chance of us autolosing?

Come on, how a Maniac plan wouldn't work as a charm?

Maybe suggest another plan, like everybody vote Worcej in a random order.

In fact, this remember me a Monty Python thing, about a witch and a duck or something like that.

why are you so upset about worcej votes? got some secret knowledge that he isnt the alien?

[damo666]

I don't know why Bob is panicking.

Scum can afford to let non-alien me die since I am known infectee.

Scum do not know Bob's alien dna status UNLESS Bob is the alien.

Scum will not allow non-alien Bob to die.

So, in summary Bob if you are alien you've lost if not you won't be allowed die.

[damo666]

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To avoid being eaten by an alien.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To avoid being eaten by an alien.

*CLUCK*

[Jamiet99uk]

So Ghug and Worcej haven't voted for Bob.

Maniac, does this mean they're scum?

[ghug]

So Ghug and Worcej haven't voted for Bob.

Maniac, does this mean they're scum?

Daddy maniac told me not to vote until everyone else had.

[worcej]

Bob seems displeased by recent events.

I am also displeased.

Damo is the kill that needs to happen.

[worcej]

I’ve spelled this out already for you all.

[damo666]

So far:

Maniac voted Bob
Jamie voted Bob
Fox voted Bob
rdr voted Bob
damo voted Bob
worcej declines
Vecna next up
ghug

[BobMcBob]

I don't know why Bob is panicking.

Scum can afford to let non-alien me die since I am known infectee.

Scum do not know Bob's alien dna status UNLESS Bob is the alien.

Scum will not allow non-alien Bob to die.

So, in summary Bob if you are alien you've lost if not you won't be allowed die.

if anybody doesnt vote me, they suddenly look extremely suspicious (see: what jamie just said)
scum dont actually have an option to dissent without giving away their position, which is literally the exact same situation as voting you except we dont get a guaranteed infected kill

like i said, if scum feel the need to out the alien, they will do it whoever we vote
if not, then its far better to vote an infected with a good chance of being alien than anyone else

anyway, what makes you think scum will give up one of their team (which is still the deal at the moment) to take out alien?
why wouldnt they just screw us over?

[damo666]

Bob, the difference is I am known infected, you are not. If you are not alien you will not be killed because there will be insufficient votes.

If it remains as is then as sure as eggs people will revert to me.

If scum know you are alien there will be sufficient votes and you will die.

[BobMcBob]

Bob, the difference is I am known infected, you are not. If you are not alien you will not be killed because there will be insufficient votes.

If it remains as is then as sure as eggs people will revert to me.

If scum know you are alien there will be sufficient votes and you will die.

thats not how this works
i need to go for a bit but i will explain later
but that is not how this works