Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, got another gm answer. Apparently scum were not informed in QT over the wetwork result.

So unless Bunny was camping out in the scum QT without typing in the main thread, they were as much in the dark on what Jasnah's role was as we were.

Interesting

"Camping out". He'd only have had to post there once.

[rdrivera2005]

I'm getting totally lost here.

What is Vecna claiming to have done to Foxcastle during the day on D2?

White knighting him all day to avoid him being the DK.

I still have some doubts about Fox claim, but I will accept it for now as we need to find the Alien and I won't vote out of Damo or Ghug.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE GHUG

[Vecna]

I'm getting totally lost here.

What is Vecna claiming to have done to Foxcastle during the day on D2?

White knighting him all day to avoid him being the DK.

I still have some doubts about Fox claim, but I will accept it for now as we need to find the Alien and I won't vote out of Damo or Ghug.

I mean, same.

Were back to the same question then I guess.

Would the alien have infected damo on N2 or N3 (still cannot have been N1 or N4).

[Vecna]

Also, got another gm answer. Apparently scum were not informed in QT over the wetwork result.

So unless Bunny was camping out in the scum QT without typing in the main thread, they were as much in the dark on what Jasnah's role was as we were.

Interesting

"Camping out". He'd only have had to post there once.

This is true, naturally.

Still, do you think fox would claim the shaman role the way he has, while we can force him to self-townclear tonight?

[damo666]

##vote ghug

[Vecna]

Hey fox, what about the part of bona claiming his item was not stolen? How would he know? Didnt the gm confirm people dying were not informed if their item was stolen?

Thoughts on that statement? I believe you only got to ask a question and receive a basic answer right? Slightly more info?

[ghug]

It's a fair plan but I'm not the alien. The thing is scum can afford to let me hang.

Maniac was my target so is therfore not alien or current infectee.

I'm pretty sure alien is worcej ghug or bob (that order).

Yeah, I'm not the alien or infected. Can I be the town Jesus?

Nope, I had this status first.

By the way, Ghug is the Alien, he isn't even paying attention to the game. He even listed me as the second option to be the Alien in his reads.

Oh yeah, I was kinda rushing those. Whoops.

It's fucking ridiculous to say I'm not paying attention or making a bona fide effort to catch the alien here.

[damo666]

Current count

T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)

scum allow my miskill

5 2 1 4 4

N6 scum kill town infectee

4 2 1 3 4

but alien infects so

4 2 1 4 3 alien wins

So scum must NK/target alien

5 2 1 4 4

but alien infects

5 2 1 5 3 alien wins

SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN

[ghug]

scum know who alien is (presumably)

Town know it's definitely not rdr or Maniac and on the face of it not Fox, Vecna or Jamie.

Think on

Are you claiming that you kitted Maniac?

[damo666]

Current count

Town Maf Alien A&I N
6 2 1 ............ 5 4 (presumably)

scum allow my miskill

5 2 1 ............ 4 4

N6 scum kill town infectee

4 2 1 ............ 3 4

but alien infects so

4 2 1 ............ 4 3 alien wins

So scum must NK/target alien

5 2 1 ............. 4 4

but alien infects

5 2 1 5 3 alien wins

SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN

hope this is clearer

[damo666]

scum know who alien is (presumably)

Town know it's definitely not rdr or Maniac and on the face of it not Fox, Vecna or Jamie.

Think on

Are you claiming that you kitted Maniac?

Yes, and nothing happened implying Maniac is neither alien nor infected

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey fox, what about the part of bona claiming his item was not stolen? How would he know? Didnt the gm confirm people dying were not informed if their item was stolen?

Thoughts on that statement? I believe you only got to ask a question and receive a basic answer right? Slightly more info?

Here it is:

I do not think there is much agreement on that currently. Most people seem to think fox is likely scum at least.

##call gm

Do people killed during the night still receive a notification if their item was stolen?

They do not.

[ghug]

Mafia - Fox, Vecna, worcej
Alien - damo, rd, Maniac, worcej

Relevant post. Unless he thinks Jamiet is lying and scum (which he didn't) he can't think I am Alien.

So, my thought process, such as it was, is that damo is far and away my strongest alien read, I don't think Bob is the alien because he was really out there early on, and I think it's unlikely worcej is because he was vocal about killing celaph a turn before everyone else was, so my list was damo > the field > worcej. Also you were annoying me with shitty logic.

[Jamiet99uk]

So Foxcastle appears to be lying.

[ghug]

I'm getting totally lost here.

What is Vecna claiming to have done to Foxcastle during the day on D2?

He saved him. Like with votes.

It's easy to forget we're playing mafia here.

[damo666]

Remember alien controls 2 votes.

If alien is not a clear wagon approaching EOD (please give enough space) scum must sacrifice a player to prevent alien victory.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm getting totally lost here.

What is Vecna claiming to have done to Foxcastle during the day on D2?

He saved him. Like with votes.

It's easy to forget we're playing mafia here.

Yes you're the 14th person to answer, I get it now, ta.

[ghug]

Current count

T M A A&I N
6 2 1 5 4 (presumably)

scum allow my miskill

5 2 1 4 4

N6 scum kill town infectee

4 2 1 3 4

but alien infects so

4 2 1 4 3 alien wins

So scum must NK/target alien

5 2 1 4 4

but alien infects

5 2 1 5 3 alien wins

SCUM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO TELL US WHO ALIEN IS SINCE THEY KNOW I AM TOWN

What is N?

[damo666]

Proposal:

Everyone self votes until Scum reveal who alien is.

##vote damo