Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[ghug]

If someone has a Triage kit I'd really appreciate being their target tonight because the Alien is quite likely to try to kill me.

I still think killing is a terrible option for the alien. it lowers the pool for us to find him in and doesnt actually help his win condition.

So i sort of doubt he will

Does the alien count as infected for the purposes of the majority?

We're at 9 now, if the alien is 3 infections, then the right 2 kills means that they win, and killing Jamie means that if they don't get the right 2 kills, they at least have a good chance of making more infections that go undetected.

If the alien does not count for the majority, then I still think taking out Jamie is the best option for the Jamie, as Jamie is our best chance of thwarting the alien.

So I don't think it's a simple as all that.

Huh? They'd be at best 3/7 after two kills.

[ghug]

I still think killing is a terrible option for the alien. it lowers the pool for us to find him in and doesnt actually help his win condition.

So i sort of doubt he will

Sssshhh!!!

Yeah keep up the appearances damo. Like you, Ghug or Worcej wouldnt figure out the obvious, right?

The aliens done everything right from what we can judge to this point, so this post is once again not working in your favor at all.

I think there's an argument that they would have been better off killing Jamie days ago, but at this point it's just taking the foot off the gas.

[ghug]

Hi celaph

[ghug]

Vecna, why do you prefer the Mafia targeting Bob to targeting you? That seems backwards.

[Jamiet99uk]

btw, I hope you confirmed with the gm's whether theres some way of knowing whether the alien has fucked with your targets

My reports have specifically been listing the name of the person the report is on (like words to the effect of "you scanned Rdrivera last night and you find that he is not infected") rather than a more generic "your target was not infected" so I am confident that if the Alien re-directed my action, I would know that I ended up getting a report on someone else.

Doesnt this also mean the scum also know your targets? did you confirm whether they do/dont?

Yes - once I get a report, the Scum learn both (a) who the report is about, and (b) what the result is.

[ghug]

My reports have specifically been listing the name of the person the report is on (like words to the effect of "you scanned Rdrivera last night and you find that he is not infected") rather than a more generic "your target was not infected" so I am confident that if the Alien re-directed my action, I would know that I ended up getting a report on someone else.

Doesnt this also mean the scum also know your targets? did you confirm whether they do/dont?

Yes - once I get a report, the Scum learn both (a) who the report is about, and (b) what the result is.

I thought you said they only learned the result and not the person when we were discussing the fake damo scan.

[Jamiet99uk]

Doesnt this also mean the scum also know your targets? did you confirm whether they do/dont?

Yes - once I get a report, the Scum learn both (a) who the report is about, and (b) what the result is.

I thought you said they only learned the result and not the person when we were discussing the fake damo scan.

Yes, but I was apparently mistaken. I had actually forgotten that the person's name was in my report.

[ghug]

Yes - once I get a report, the Scum learn both (a) who the report is about, and (b) what the result is.

I thought you said they only learned the result and not the person when we were discussing the fake damo scan.

Yes, but I was apparently mistaken. I had actually forgotten that the person's name was in my report.

Got it. Have we confirmed this with the GM?

[Vecna]

Vecna, why do you prefer the Mafia targeting Bob to targeting you? That seems backwards.

Its not what I prefer, its what I think is their most likely course of action. Im probably a more likely misskill ftpov compared with bob

[Vecna]

Regardless, were likely in the position where we have 3 daykills remainig max, and all 3 need to hit alien/scum/scum (likely in that order).

[Vecna]

If theres any town PR's remaining, they should claim at EoN

[Foxcastle]

If theres any town PR's remaining, they should claim at EoN

Why tonight and not tomorrow night (Night 6)?

[Jamiet99uk]

I thought you said they only learned the result and not the person when we were discussing the fake damo scan.

Yes, but I was apparently mistaken. I had actually forgotten that the person's name was in my report.

Got it. Have we confirmed this with the GM?

Yes.

[ghug]

If theres any town PR's remaining, they should claim at EoN

Why tonight and not tomorrow night (Night 6)?

My first instinct is to agree with you, but we're going to have an easier time narrowing down the alien tomorrow if we can remove some possibilities, and sadly I don't think the mafia is going to claim for us (though they should if we're going to kill them trying to hit alien, because we can agree with them to only kill them once we've killed the alien.

[rdrivera2005]

If theres any town PR's remaining, they should claim at EoN

Why tonight and not tomorrow night (Night 6)?

My first instinct is to agree with you, but we're going to have an easier time narrowing down the alien tomorrow if we can remove some possibilities, and sadly I don't think the mafia is going to claim for us (though they should if we're going to kill them trying to hit alien, because we can agree with them to only kill them once we've killed the alien.

You just told the Alien how to act if he is going to be killed. I am starting to have a feeling you are the Alien.

[ghug]

Why tonight and not tomorrow night (Night 6)?

My first instinct is to agree with you, but we're going to have an easier time narrowing down the alien tomorrow if we can remove some possibilities, and sadly I don't think the mafia is going to claim for us (though they should if we're going to kill them trying to hit alien, because we can agree with them to only kill them once we've killed the alien.

You just told the Alien how to act if he is going to be killed. I am starting to have a feeling you are the Alien.

Why would I tell the alien how to act if I were the alien?

There's a very obvious way out if the alien fakeclaims mafia.

[Maniac]

@rdriveria - say hi in our QT please

If scum do hit and not kill alien tonight they should tell us and the Item thief should confess? It makes sense. They can’t win without town killing the Alien and after that town will look to kill scum from a narrowing list. As Rdriveria and I can’t be the item thief and others are able to clear themselves the people who could be the item thief is quite small.

Also there is a not-zero chance that Jamie’s scan result is positive and that player is scum. If that happens they may as well say who they think the alien
Is.

I’m still quite optimistic about this game. We have to look at worst case scenarios but there is a chance that we’ve already killed some infected players (maybe Thamrick would’ve been a good infection target for example).

[Maniac]

My first instinct is to agree with you, but we're going to have an easier time narrowing down the alien tomorrow if we can remove some possibilities, and sadly I don't think the mafia is going to claim for us (though they should if we're going to kill them trying to hit alien, because we can agree with them to only kill them once we've killed the alien.

You just told the Alien how to act if he is going to be killed. I am starting to have a feeling you are the Alien.

Why would I tell the alien how to act if I were the alien?

There's a very obvious way out if the alien fakeclaims mafia.

Fake claiming and then someone counter-claim Mafia would be difficult to resolve. It’s not like they are going to have breadcrumbs or anything

[Jamiet99uk]

@rdriveria - say hi in our QT please

Are you at a campsite?

[rdrivera2005]

My reads, just in case I didn't survive the night.

Alien: Ghug or Damo, in this order.

Scum: Fox and Worcej.

I still fear Vecna could be playing us again, but at this point he just deserves the win.