Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Maniac]

##call GM - this should be obvious, but just checking "The Alien wins when a majority of players are infected." So I read 'infected' as being as soon as they are infected not waiting until they scan Alien DNA. And I read it as being the game stops as soon as the majority is reached, so if it's 5 infected and 4 not infected the game stops, we can't DK/NK infected players to overturn that win condition and finally can you confirm the alien can be dead and still win?

[Jamiet99uk]

So to be clear:

Mafia:
Maniac and Damo and one of Ghug or Vecna

Alien:
Thamrick. If not Thamrick then possibly Celaph or Rdrivera.

[thamrick]

First of all, even if youre right on all 3 youre still missing the 4th non-town. I dont understand why you suddenly are unwilling to consider fox. is it because his item thief claim? You believe him then?

What about the other players? You have a solid read on Rdrivera?

To answer Vecna's other points, I can't kill four people at once, so I'll look for the final non-town if and when we get to that point, hopefully.

I am not unwilling to consider Foxcastle altogether, but I do think he's less likely to be scum than one of you or Ghug (but not both, or you've put on some damn fine theatre for us).

Foxcastle for me has been quite towny all game and the repeated pushes on him have felt wrong to me.

I think Rdrivera is more likely town than not but he's an outside bet for Alien if Thamrick is just regular scum. That's why I scanned him.

Very un-Jamie-like. Did you actually get lucky and guess kgray's role?

[Jamiet99uk]

##call GM - this should be obvious, but just checking "The Alien wins when a majority of players are infected." So I read 'infected' as being as soon as they are infected not waiting until they scan Alien DNA. And I read it as being the game stops as soon as the majority is reached, so if it's 5 infected and 4 not infected the game stops, we can't DK/NK infected players to overturn that win condition and finally can you confirm the alien can be dead and still win?

Oh this is a good question. Like what happens if there are already several people infected but then, after the Alien dies, enough non-infected people are DKed or NKed that more than 50% of the remainder have infected DNA?

Good query, Maniac.

[Jamiet99uk]

First of all, even if youre right on all 3 youre still missing the 4th non-town. I dont understand why you suddenly are unwilling to consider fox. is it because his item thief claim? You believe him then?

What about the other players? You have a solid read on Rdrivera?

To answer Vecna's other points, I can't kill four people at once, so I'll look for the final non-town if and when we get to that point, hopefully.

I am not unwilling to consider Foxcastle altogether, but I do think he's less likely to be scum than one of you or Ghug (but not both, or you've put on some damn fine theatre for us).

Foxcastle for me has been quite towny all game and the repeated pushes on him have felt wrong to me.

I think Rdrivera is more likely town than not but he's an outside bet for Alien if Thamrick is just regular scum. That's why I scanned him.

Very un-Jamie-like. Did you actually get lucky and guess kgray's role?

What is "un-Jamie like"?

Acknowledging that I can't hook the entire scumteam in a single bullet? False.

[Maniac]

So do you all think I was actually jailed or just claim jailed? I understand the alien thinking. But unless I'm secretary, why would scum jail me and prevent my night action? (Hint: I can't be secretary based on my scan) If I wasn't jailed, who did BB jail that night and have you ever known BB to not use an action he's got? (Hint: no)

What does this mean?

Your scan by Bonatogether?

Try again. He was the Insane Cop so he gets the same result from every scan.

Insane Deputy doesn'y get the same result for every scan.

[Sane Cop] Results are Accurate -unless a PR interferes with them-
[Insane Cop] Results are the opposite of what they should be
[Paranoid Cop] Results are always AREA-51
[Naive Cop] Results are always NOT AREA-51

[Jamiet99uk]

Look at Thamrick actually participating after I've stamped on his balls for long enough.

[thamrick]

Look at Thamrick actually participating after I've stamped on his balls for long enough.

Lol

[Vecna]

So do you all think I was actually jailed or just claim jailed? I understand the alien thinking. But unless I'm secretary, why would scum jail me and prevent my night action? (Hint: I can't be secretary based on my scan) If I wasn't jailed, who did BB jail that night and have you ever known BB to not use an action he's got? (Hint: no)

You suddenly seem mightily aware of everything in this game

[Jamiet99uk]

Look at Thamrick actually participating after I've stamped on his balls for long enough.

Lol

Lurking? Check.
Actively avoiding accountability? Check.
Making excuses?
Doing nothing to help town catch scum? Check.

Laughing in our faces? Check.

Kill Thamrick please.

[thamrick]

So do you all think I was actually jailed or just claim jailed? I understand the alien thinking. But unless I'm secretary, why would scum jail me and prevent my night action? (Hint: I can't be secretary based on my scan) If I wasn't jailed, who did BB jail that night and have you ever known BB to not use an action he's got? (Hint: no)

You suddenly seem mightily aware of everything in this game

I'm Michelle Branch baby

[thamrick]

Look at Thamrick actually participating after I've stamped on his balls for long enough.

Lol

Lurking? Check.
Actively avoiding accountability? Check.
Making excuses?
Doing nothing to help town catch scum? Check.

Laughing in our faces? Check.

Kill Thamrick please.

At least you gave me that one <3

[Maniac]

So to be clear:

Mafia:
Maniac and Damo and one of Ghug or Vecna

Alien:
Thamrick. If not Thamrick then possibly Celaph or Rdrivera.

Call me dumb, But it's impossible for Thamrick is alien. We have an insane deputy. Thamrick scanned Not Area 51, so his TRUE identity is Area 51. The alien scans as 'Not area 51' as a true identity even when he is framed. Therefore Thamrick has to be scum (not MiB) or a framed townie or possibly a framed MiB. Am I misreading something here?

[Vecna]

Regardless, if we dont kill the alien today and leave celaph alive, we are at risk of the alien still having 3 infections living among us.

Tomorrow 10 people will be left alive if we daykill and scum NK. one more alien infection is 4 infections + the alien itself means 50%. Not yet a majority for the alien wincondition, but with the vote controlling mechanic it will be extremely hard to kill the alien unless literally every non-infected person votes the alien.

We should probably have people with a reverse DNA claim so we can inform our play here. That way at least scum can also be aware of who to not steal from.

##call GM: killing is higher in the night priority list than healing. If a person with a reverse DNA kit is shot by the alien, will the use of the DNA kit still go through or will it effectively be cancelled?

[Vecna]

So to be clear:

Mafia:
Maniac and Damo and one of Ghug or Vecna

Alien:
Thamrick. If not Thamrick then possibly Celaph or Rdrivera.

Call me dumb, But it's impossible for Thamrick is alien. We have an insane deputy. Thamrick scanned Not Area 51, so his TRUE identity is Area 51. The alien scans as 'Not area 51' as a true identity even when he is framed. Therefore Thamrick has to be scum (not MiB) or a framed townie or possibly a framed MiB. Am I misreading something here?

youre missing the gm correction

[thamrick]

So to be clear:

Mafia:
Maniac and Damo and one of Ghug or Vecna

Alien:
Thamrick. If not Thamrick then possibly Celaph or Rdrivera.

Call me dumb, But it's impossible for Thamrick is alien. We have an insane deputy. Thamrick scanned Not Area 51, so his TRUE identity is Area 51. The alien scans as 'Not area 51' as a true identity even when he is framed. Therefore Thamrick has to be scum (not MiB) or a framed townie or possibly a framed MiB. Am I misreading something here?

Initially I scanned as Not Area 51 then GM's corrected it to Area 51

[Jamiet99uk]

So to be clear:

Mafia:
Maniac and Damo and one of Ghug or Vecna

Alien:
Thamrick. If not Thamrick then possibly Celaph or Rdrivera.

Call me dumb, But it's impossible for Thamrick is alien. We have an insane deputy. Thamrick scanned Not Area 51, so his TRUE identity is Area 51. The alien scans as 'Not area 51' as a true identity even when he is framed. Therefore Thamrick has to be scum (not MiB) or a framed townie or possibly a framed MiB. Am I misreading something here?

You have got this the wrong way around:

I have been told that my scan result is incorrect. THAMRICK ACTUALLY SCANNED AS AREA-51.

Thamrick CANNOT be Mafia. But he CAN be Alien.

[BobMcBob]

i mean the gm couldve just written the wrong thing because they werent paying enough attention or felt under time pressure or were managing too many things etc

[Maniac]

Thanks for clarifying.

##unvote

[Vecna]

So to be clear:

Mafia:
Maniac and Damo and one of Ghug or Vecna

Alien:
Thamrick. If not Thamrick then possibly Celaph or Rdrivera.

Call me dumb, But it's impossible for Thamrick is alien. We have an insane deputy. Thamrick scanned Not Area 51, so his TRUE identity is Area 51. The alien scans as 'Not area 51' as a true identity even when he is framed. Therefore Thamrick has to be scum (not MiB) or a framed townie or possibly a framed MiB. Am I misreading something here?

You have got this the wrong way around:

I have been told that my scan result is incorrect. THAMRICK ACTUALLY SCANNED AS AREA-51.

Thamrick CANNOT be Mafia. But he CAN be Alien.

He can still be the MiB or a mafia that was framed by the MiB