Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[celaph]

PART TETRA

[snip]

I think it's unlikely that Bona and Vecna are scum together given this defense and how little others focused on it before Bona's claim.

@vecna, why did you choose to try and trap Bob in this way?

[celaph]

Jasnah

no one has claimed an item was stolen
emc did not have his item stolen

therefore HR had his item stolen

or the Alien had their item stolen and doesnt want to claim because it draws attention to themself

Or, item thief waived. Why would you not consider this a possibility? It's viable option if item thief doesn't want to semi-clear anyone and/or wants to stack thefts for late game.

I'm a big fan of Jasnah's play so far this game. Showing good thought about how the item thief would act. And to the earlier concern of it being intentional, I don't feel like her messages are forced which makes me think it's a more natural evolution in style, one that I enjoy.

[celaph]

I'm the deputy

Fuck you guys

I'm not coming back for hours

I really hope you're pulling a bb and fake claiming here as town, but I rather doubt it. This fits the dejected town Bona that I've seen in the past far too well.

[celaph]

Also, now that both chaqa has flipped, and jamiet has become overwhelmingly likely town, I wanna crusade hard against bunny

If you didn't think Bob had responded to you, why did you drop the Bunny is Obvtown cover?

[celaph]

I think scum are in: Bob, Thamrick, Maniac, ghug, lfsichl, celaph.

Rationale?

I find that hilarious coming from you.

This is a lovely retort, but also deflects from a serious question. Can you provide your rationale?

[celaph]

PART SIEDEM

Am I really going to have to give even more town-points to Ghug here?

Can you speak to why you're afraid to give ghug townpoints? I agree at least with the point that ghug's play merits townpoints, but you seem to be far more afraid by the prospect.

[celaph]

Fake
youve tolerated far worse before.

It's not fake. He doesn't seem capable of comprehension.

Fine. I am now returning to M61 bona and will not post. I thought I was doing a good thing given the circumstances, but now I'm on the block for it (although I think this is a heavily scum-driven push). I'll go make some VCA post.

A brief review of M61 suggests that Bona was really lurking M61 with only 0 total posts.

[celaph]

God I hate not having time. I just got caught up in thread. Didn't end up having time during N1 to do much rereading because we had to take our puppers to the vet

Getting strong townvibes from Bob McBob, jasnah, and celaph. Biggest scumreads so far are bona and foxcastle.

I've gotta head in to work soon and I'm working 12 hr shifts the next few days so my participation not likely to improve. Sorry. I free up next week so hopefully will be able to ISO more.

##VOTE Bonatogether

Can you explain your reads please?

[celaph]

@Vecna

I'll be more positive when we have more data. All I have at the mo is a small pool of townreads.

This reminds me of my scum play.

[celaph]

I dont think ill get nightkilled on my birthday weekend.

its my birthday in under 2 hours!!!

Happy birthday!

[celaph]

bona's thoughts on the d1 voting

I'm in both of your groups.

Also killing Chaqa isn't scummy unless Jamie or jasnah (or maybe one of the early wagons) is town.

Yes. That is intentional.

Killing Chaqa was scummy regardless of Jamie and Jasnah's alignment, since it was "oh lets policy kill the lurker." Scum can easily hide on that wagon and not give any reason or be involved in any late-day shenanigans.

Who do you think was hiding on Chaqa's wagon?

[celaph]

Bonatogether (2) thamrick jasnah
Vecna (1) rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk (1) Macca573*
damo666 (1) Vecna

so jasnah and tham are voting an unccd PR
macca is endhammering an unccd PR
rdrivera is campvoting the only person actually game solving
and damo is only a 1 wagon

welcome to webdip where the phases take forever and the points dont matter

Tell me how is Vecna game solving? He pushed a brilliant wagon on Chaqa D1 and now is pushing a lazy wagon on Damo D2.

Why is Vecna town brainbomb?

Unless Vecna is really on-point with his reads, I don't expect scum rdr to target him after his long posts.

[Vecna]

PART TETRA

[snip]

I think it's unlikely that Bona and Vecna are scum together given this defense and how little others focused on it before Bona's claim.

@vecna, why did you choose to try and trap Bob in this way?

There were a bunch of people mentioning me and bunny in a single read doing the either/or. I questioned the others on it and felt like making a stronger point with bob because it sort of just followed the "general" sentiment and I wanted him to explain it.

I dont even really know why I did it in that form. It probably comes off as pretty cheesy and the odds of it ever working....

[celaph]

I'll reread things tomorrow morning with a greater focus on the wagons. But for now, I sleep. Currently townread Bona, ghug, Jamie, Jasnah, and rdr. Vecna, Macca, and bb are on the townier side though to a lesser degree.

[Vecna]

Also, now that both chaqa has flipped, and jamiet has become overwhelmingly likely town, I wanna crusade hard against bunny

If you didn't think Bob had responded to you, why did you drop the Bunny is Obvtown cover?

I guess crusading was higher on the list of fun stuff to talk about than silly gimmicks.

My feelings on Bunny are a lot stronger. The questioning of Bob was much more of a btw type of thing, due to him having the same weird bunny/vecna read that some others had.

[Vecna]

PART SIEDEM

Am I really going to have to give even more town-points to Ghug here?

Can you speak to why you're afraid to give ghug townpoints? I agree at least with the point that ghug's play merits townpoints, but you seem to be far more afraid by the prospect.

Whenever i townread ghug, he's scum and im getting punked.

Theres no winning, regardless of how I read him.

[celaph]

Bonatogether (2) thamrick jasnah
Vecna (1) rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk (1) Macca573*
damo666 (1) Vecna

so jasnah and tham are voting an unccd PR
macca is endhammering an unccd PR
rdrivera is campvoting the only person actually game solving
and damo is only a 1 wagon

welcome to webdip where the phases take forever and the points dont matter

Tell me how is Vecna game solving? He pushed a brilliant wagon on Chaqa D1 and now is pushing a lazy wagon on Damo D2.

Why is Vecna town brainbomb?

I lied. One more question before sleep. What do you think of the Damo wagon? I get the feeling that you disapprove of it. If that is the case then can you clarify why?

[Vecna]

Bonatogether (2) thamrick jasnah
Vecna (1) rdrivera2005
Jamiet99uk (1) Macca573*
damo666 (1) Vecna

so jasnah and tham are voting an unccd PR
macca is endhammering an unccd PR
rdrivera is campvoting the only person actually game solving
and damo is only a 1 wagon

welcome to webdip where the phases take forever and the points dont matter

Tell me how is Vecna game solving? He pushed a brilliant wagon on Chaqa D1 and now is pushing a lazy wagon on Damo D2.

Why is Vecna town brainbomb?

Unless Vecna is really on-point with his reads, I don't expect scum rdr to target him after his long posts.

The question is whether he's targeting me or brainbomb

[Vecna]

more diplomacy in a few hours. yay

Might get put on a board with HR again. booo

[jasnah]

more diplomacy in a few hours. yay

Might get put on a board with HR again. booo

It always much better to go on a board with me. If you listened to me we wouldnt have to have Morgante world champion