Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Bonatogether]

In the most recent long game, his scum personality was SOOOO scummy. Lots of us called him out as "too scummy to be scum". I think as town, he'd try harder to be town read and avoid this. I think as scum, he may be incapable of avoiding it. Especially if he's the solo alien and worried.

I don't think you understand how I play

Then explain it some more. Tell me what you were thinking after that last scum game of yours.

I was thinking that I should have shot the cop.

Did you plan to change your play next game or not?

I make no plans about how to play except "i'll be more active this time around."

How do you play?

By getting into arguments and seeing what people say/how they say it, and then some VCA.

[BunnyGo]

Tinfoil theory: Is it possible the Jailor has a Satellite Phone and EMC said something in the Phone QT that made the Jailor think EMC was something more useful than a VT?

Sat phones are nighttime only.

why do you know that?

I read the setup...

[Jamiet99uk]

There's no guarantee that kgray wasn't alien researcher

That's a pretty wild assumption, no?

[Jamiet99uk]

Tinfoil theory: Is it possible the Jailor has a Satellite Phone and EMC said something in the Phone QT that made the Jailor think EMC was something more useful than a VT?

Sat phones are nighttime only.

Ah. Noted.

[Bonatogether]

I don't think you understand how I play

Then explain it some more. Tell me what you were thinking after that last scum game of yours. Did you plan to change your play next game or not? How do you play?

Tell me about your relationship with your mother. Your father.
Do you have siblings? Why do you play games? Do you generally win?

c) Yes >:(
d) cause
e) depends

[Bonatogether]

There's no guarantee that kgray wasn't alien researcher

That's a pretty wild assumption, no?

yeah but tinfoil hat time

[Jamiet99uk]

How come we learned EMC had a Satellite Phone, when he flipped, but we didn't learn what items Chaqa or Hellenic Riot had?

[Jamiet99uk]

There's no guarantee that kgray wasn't alien researcher

That's a pretty wild assumption, no?

yeah but tinfoil hat time

Well take off your tinfoil hat because you're currently voting a fucking un-cc'ed Town PR.

I'm obviously fucking town here. Jezus.

[brainbomb]

I think the GMs are overwhelmed much like you were with how many nuances and unexpected details are actualy in this setup

[Bonatogether]

That's a pretty wild assumption, no?

yeah but tinfoil hat time

Well take off your tinfoil hat because you're currently voting a fucking un-cc'ed Town PR.

I'm obviously fucking town here. Jezus.

but some people haven't shown up, remember

[BunnyGo]

I don't think you understand how I play

Then explain it some more. Tell me what you were thinking after that last scum game of yours.

I was thinking that I should have shot the cop.

Did you plan to change your play next game or not?

I make no plans about how to play except "i'll be more active this time around."

How do you play?

By getting into arguments and seeing what people say/how they say it, and then some VCA.

OK, so here's what I'm hearing:

You blamed your failure to win as scum on "chance" that you killed the wrong player.

You made no plans to analyze your posting style, implications, or otherwise grow except to "post more".

So I should expect largely similar play from your last scum game.

Is that what you meant?

[brainbomb]

you admitted that a huge role madness game was beyond overwhelming

[Jamiet99uk]

How come we learned EMC had a Satellite Phone, when he flipped, but we didn't learn what items Chaqa or Hellenic Riot had?

##CALL GM?

[Jamiet99uk]

you admitted that a huge role madness game was beyond overwhelming

It was pretty demanding for sure!

[brainbomb]

can we give the gms a rest?

[Jamiet99uk]

yeah but tinfoil hat time

Well take off your tinfoil hat because you're currently voting a fucking un-cc'ed Town PR.

I'm obviously fucking town here. Jezus.

but some people haven't shown up, remember

Yes and if someone shows up and Counter-Claims me then you can kill me today, ok? Until then, you might show me the benefit of the doubt instead of being completely blind to the possibility that I'm town. You have this demented idea that I must be scum and it's fucking stupid now.

[Bonatogether]

OK, so here's what I'm hearing:

You blamed your failure to win as scum on "chance" that you killed the wrong player.

You made no plans to analyze your posting style, implications, or otherwise grow except to "post more".

So I should expect largely similar play from your last scum game.

Is that what you meant?

No, Bob and I screwed up by not shooting the cop and instead shooting rdr. We knew who the cop was (iirc) but we didn't kill him, and then he got a guilty scan on me and I had no defense.

Yes.

No. I am not looking my stuff over and saying "i fucked up here, i should have done this instead." I'm saying "town ghug/brain/kgray shouted at me for doing this so I won't do it again unless I'm trying to pick a fight with them"

[Bonatogether]

Well take off your tinfoil hat because you're currently voting a fucking un-cc'ed Town PR.

I'm obviously fucking town here. Jezus.

but some people haven't shown up, remember

Yes and if someone shows up and Counter-Claims me then you can kill me today, ok? Until then, you might show me the benefit of the doubt instead of being completely blind to the possibility that I'm town. You have this demented idea that I must be scum and it's fucking stupid now.

Ok. I'm cool with that.

[BunnyGo]

How come we learned EMC had a Satellite Phone, when he flipped, but we didn't learn what items Chaqa or Hellenic Riot had?

Maybe they used their items? Or HR had his stolen? But for Chaqa to have used his item, it would have to have been the alien ray gun (unlikely...I don't think town!chaqa kills kgray like that) or the holly herb, in which case we'd have a clear. *MAYBE* he used the containment field on someone else?!

Maybe the GMs missed it? ##CALL GM can you confirm we have all the information intended from the various deaths?

[BobMcBob]

It's not a good idea for the Mafia to try to kill me, since I can't hunt them, only the Alien.

I declare this scummy as all hell.

i declare this dummy as all hell