Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Vecna]

brainbomb is very likely scum btw

He's doing the self-agrandizing rants again

If I were scum my team would be absolutely cruising to the finish line

im happy that youre so confident

[Jamiet99uk]

Im not familiar with that reference foxxy

You don't know the Monty Hall problem?

It's the one with the goats and the doors.

And it doesn't apply since we are ignorant of how many goats there are.

No, there are 5 Regular Goats and one Space Goat.

[brainbomb]

are you not confident vecna?

[Jamiet99uk]

I forget damo is british, and cultured, and shit

[Vecna]

are you not confident vecna?

Im quite a bit behind atm, but I dont think town has anything to be confident over?

Townkill D1, a janitored kill on Kgray

And what feels like to be a very stacked scum team opposing us.

[brainbomb]

my interview is about to start. If anyone nightkills me I will shove a desk and chairs up their urethra.

[brainbomb]

are you not confident vecna?

Im quite a bit behind atm, but I dont think town has anything to be confident over?

Townkill D1, a janitored kill on Kgray

And what feels like to be a very stacked scum team opposing us.

Plenty of quality players alive, including me. Didnt you praise my reads as amazing a week ago? when you killed me N1 for being deserving of death?

[ghug]

@worcej Bona's reasons for town reading me or anyone else are pretty much just like his reasons for scum reading me or anyone else: spurious, fallacious and dense.

@Ghug

And just a moment ago you liked my townpool...

I thought the above was either a general expression of disappointment, like the equivalent of taking a sigh, or a pointed dig at my inconsistency of liking and then not liking the previous reads.

I'm not sure why I read it as the latter. I became really mad for not that much reason. I apologize for my language which was excessive and I'll tone it down.

@all Please do hold me to it. Periodic personal insults are shitty and I don't want to create a meta where unhinged flaming becomes a norm.

@Ghug I actually like you all things considered so it was especially out of order me to write like that, not because people would deserve it more if I don't like them, but because it shows I have a lot of work to do re rage management if I can just go off like that for no particular reason.

It was somewhere between the former and the latter. I felt like we were actually getting somewhere for a second and then you reverted to the attacks when it looked like I wasn't going to budge on scumreading you.

I find your insults kind of humorous, honestly, but I appreciate the apology.

[ghug]

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[ghug]

I'm getting strongly inclined to endhammer ghug tomorrow

Why?

Because every time you justify the Chaqa vote it feels worse and worse, and I strongly disagree with just about everything else you're saying too.

I voted Chaqa because the jasnah wagon died and I didn't want to kill Jamie. Maybe with a meme cherry sprinkled on top. I justified others' votes on Chaqa to rd. Your shitty push on Jamie is far more questionable. His response to nearly being killed was town Jamie to a T.

What else do you disagree with?

[ghug]

my interview is about to start. If anyone nightkills me I will shove a desk and chairs up their urethra.

Gross

[brainbomb]

good news my interview went well and the guy liked me! I may be changing careers to an Operations Manager for an ecommerce business

[Bonatogether]

good news my interview went well and the guy liked me! I may be changing careers to an Operations Manager for an ecommerce business

congrats man

[Hellenic Riot]

Why?

Because every time you justify the Chaqa vote it feels worse and worse, and I strongly disagree with just about everything else you're saying too.

I voted Chaqa because the jasnah wagon died and I didn't want to kill Jamie. Maybe with a meme cherry sprinkled on top. I justified others' votes on Chaqa to rd. Your shitty push on Jamie is far more questionable. His response to nearly being killed was town Jamie to a T.

What else do you disagree with?

If you say so

[brainbomb]

Because every time you justify the Chaqa vote it feels worse and worse, and I strongly disagree with just about everything else you're saying too.

I voted Chaqa because the jasnah wagon died and I didn't want to kill Jamie. Maybe with a meme cherry sprinkled on top. I justified others' votes on Chaqa to rd. Your shitty push on Jamie is far more questionable. His response to nearly being killed was town Jamie to a T.

What else do you disagree with?

If you say so

he asked you a question mother fucka

[Hellenic Riot]

I voted Chaqa because the jasnah wagon died and I didn't want to kill Jamie. Maybe with a meme cherry sprinkled on top. I justified others' votes on Chaqa to rd. Your shitty push on Jamie is far more questionable. His response to nearly being killed was town Jamie to a T.

What else do you disagree with?

If you say so

he asked you a question mother fucka

So?

[BunnyGo]

Some reads before EON:

Scummier
Jamie
brainbomb
Bona
Vecna

Bob
emc
celaph
Townier

(anyone not on the list is nullier)

Reasons:
Jamie came out strong advocating alien hunting, he later doubled down on this by advocating that we waste a PR's power to question kgray for her role. Not to ask a dead person for their scans. Not to ask any future janitored dead for their role and scans. This feels scummy. His defense and tone did not feel like town Jamie, except for his blunt "get off me" which is easily faked.

brainbomb has been spewing garbage left and right. GMing last game I saw this hot mess that he was spewing come together as a coherent glob and spin a pearl. I realize that you can't always strike gold, but this continues to feel like random garbage hot mess. In addition, anyone agreeing with Jamie about advocating alien hunting above all else seems scummy to me.

Bona seems like he's contributing nothing, but has toned back his over-the-top scumminess of the last full game. This is exactly the focus and tone I'd expect from a scum player who doesn't want to exactly mimic their tone on a subsequent game of drawing scum. His posts that said completely contradictory statements within minutes and no reason in between suggest he's trying to look better, but can't figure out how.

Vecna I'm surprised that he jumped at me that hard for pushing him before. I've pushed town!vecna before as town and as scum and he's never done that. I don't recall playing against scum!vecna. He got little pressure in the minigame, but this seemed excessive OMGUS. I don't really know what to make of it, but in addition to the reasons I pushed him in the first place (forgetting who he scumread, steering the conversation in ways that could be saving by ignoring current wagons) make me concerned.


Bob is wacky. Bob is doing weird tone, but he's saying real things. He's full of garbage high school, but that's because he is *in* high school. With that context, I I don't see scum!Bob playing and attacking the way he is. Last game when he was all over the place my early read was "town...but maybe too town to be town and need to revisit later" (something like that), but this time feels more natural.

emc: honest reads. Not forcing things. Not trying to hide, nor insert himself as the center of the game. This is the emc who is confident enough to wait around and play, not an emc who dreads being found eventually.

celaph. He is town. His first post was town. Every post since then has been town. Listen to him. Leave him alone. If you don't have confident reads, sheep him.

[brainbomb]

You must answer to the almighty praetor ghuggley moog

[BunnyGo]

good news my interview went well and the guy liked me! I may be changing careers to an Operations Manager for an ecommerce business

Congratulations. I hope it is what you want.

[BobMcBob]

holy heck jasnah looks awful on page 92
welcome to my scum list again jas
i kinda wanna push for a bona kill but im not quite convinced enough hes scum instead of obnoxious town