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Re: Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

#1801 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:04 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:04 pm
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@HR, lfischl, Celaph, Bona, BobMcBob: You are currently all in a classic full-press Diplomacy game which Kgray is also playing in. Has Kgray exchanged press with any of you within the last 12 hours or so?
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It means penis.

Would you please translate this?

I don't speak vegetable.

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#1802 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:06 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
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jasnah's EFFORTPOST

Greetings earthlings and alien.

I am announcing myself as the public representative of Satellite Phone QT. I think we need such a person to bring town the juiciest gossip of the night and I've elected myself to do it for several reasons, one being that of Satellite Phoners I believe I'm the most likely to die or have my phone stolen soon.

I'm positive that there are at least 3 and likely 4 satellite phones in play; understanding 4 to be the maximum and trusting GMs to minimal level of competence I would estimate the number of phones in play at exactly 4. I think the sat phone QT is town majority and I'm almost certain it's at least two town, but at this time I don't think it's 4 town. I've confirmed the identity of one other member and I'm almost certain of a second identity.

Certain interactions lead me to believe based on very circumstantial evidence that Jamiet is somewhat more likely to be scum than I had previously anticipated, but only on a scum team that either is playing some 4D chess or invalidates a lot of what I wrote on D1.

Now time for everyone's favourite housekeeping. I would like to request that I'm scanned tonight. I believe I am an optimal scan for several reasons:
  • There is a decent chance that I will be flipped tomorrow, so, give the deputy info on his sanity.
  • If not flipped and later become town clear, I have rare quality of being able to lead town to victory, so one less scan available is no problem, just need to elect me your leader.
  • As a main wagon yesterday and the leading wagon around 1 hour before EOD, there was significant vote activity around me, and so fertile ground for all of you tryhards to farm pet theories regarding who I may be connected to.
  • I have night QT communication with likely 3 others who are passing on what I consider an acceptable amount of info.
I'll continue to update as circumstances develop, any questions, I know pew pew pew is fun, but please shout before you pull out the M16. I'm itching for a 1v1.

Town needs to hear from Vecna. Hopefully he has a new read for D2 that we'll be guaranteed to kill scum if we sheep. Where is he?
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#1803 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:09 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
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Why?
What do you mean "why"? This is someone literally offering to be scanned and flipped for the deputy.

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#1804 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:09 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:04 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:04 pm
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🍆
It means penis.

Would you please translate this?

I don't speak vegetable.
Whoops, I put my words in the wrong place.

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#1805 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:11 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:09 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:21 pm
jasnah megatown
Why?
What do you mean "why"? This is someone literally offering to be scanned and flipped for the deputy.
Offering to be scanned is actually a pretty scummy thing to do, especially in this game where the scan gets nowhere close to confirming her alignment. She didn't offer to be flipped, either, she just said it was likely.

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#1806 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:13 pm

Jasnah can you talk about why your Sat chat thinks Jamie is scum?

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#1807 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:11 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:09 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:06 pm


Why?
What do you mean "why"? This is someone literally offering to be scanned and flipped for the deputy.
Offering to be scanned is actually a pretty scummy thing to do, especially in this game where the scan gets nowhere close to confirming her alignment. She didn't offer to be flipped, either, she just said it was likely.
So then we vote her out and the deputy gets their result

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#1808 Post by jasnah » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:19 pm

@ brain bomb No, because as far as I can tell they don't, I have a slight read which is based on town reading one or more of QT members, and not considering them a team with Jamie.

@ ghug I agree, but I think it's unlikely that you (or I tbh) would start pushing Bona as scum for writing something like this. It's far from his worst.

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#1809 Post by jasnah » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:22 pm

Also, someone wrote yesterday that we started with 6 mafia and 1 alien. This is wrong. We started with 7 mafia and 1 alien. Assuming kind of reasonably that kgray was town, we now have left, 11 town and 8 evils.

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#1810 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:23 pm

jasnah wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:22 pm
Also, someone wrote yesterday that we started with 6 mafia and 1 alien. This is wrong. We started with 7 mafia and 1 alien. Assuming kind of reasonably that kgray was town, we now have left, 11 town and 8 evils.
We have 5 mafia and 1 alien, I thought? 1 three-use item thief, 1 secretary, 1 mp, 1 MiB, 1 gunman

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#1811 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:24 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:11 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:09 pm

What do you mean "why"? This is someone literally offering to be scanned and flipped for the deputy.
Offering to be scanned is actually a pretty scummy thing to do, especially in this game where the scan gets nowhere close to confirming her alignment. She didn't offer to be flipped, either, she just said it was likely.
So then we vote her out and the deputy gets their result
You shouldn't be voting people out if you think they're town.

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#1812 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:25 pm

jasnah wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:22 pm
Also, someone wrote yesterday that we started with 6 mafia and 1 alien. This is wrong. We started with 7 mafia and 1 alien. Assuming kind of reasonably that kgray was town, we now have left, 11 town and 8 evils.
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#1813 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:25 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:24 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:11 pm


Offering to be scanned is actually a pretty scummy thing to do, especially in this game where the scan gets nowhere close to confirming her alignment. She didn't offer to be flipped, either, she just said it was likely.
So then we vote her out and the deputy gets their result
You shouldn't be voting people out if you think they're town.
But the logical conclusion of this is that we should vote her out as to have the deputy scan be more useful.

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#1814 Post by jasnah » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:26 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:23 pm
jasnah wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:22 pm
Also, someone wrote yesterday that we started with 6 mafia and 1 alien. This is wrong. We started with 7 mafia and 1 alien. Assuming kind of reasonably that kgray was town, we now have left, 11 town and 8 evils.
We have 5 mafia and 1 alien, I thought? 1 three-use item thief, 1 secretary, 1 mp, 1 MiB, 1 gunman
The 3x means there's three uses of one guy or three guys?

I wouldn't have thought the game unbalanced if there had been three guys, but I still spend a shameful lot of time playing, like, Town of Salem all/any where standard town play is to hope the 500 evils kill each other.

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#1815 Post by jasnah » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:26 pm

I assumed the 3x meant there was 3 of the role.

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#1816 Post by brainbomb » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:27 pm

So you decided to claim your item and how does your chat feel about that

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#1817 Post by Bonatogether » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:27 pm

jasnah wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:23 pm
jasnah wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:22 pm
Also, someone wrote yesterday that we started with 6 mafia and 1 alien. This is wrong. We started with 7 mafia and 1 alien. Assuming kind of reasonably that kgray was town, we now have left, 11 town and 8 evils.
We have 5 mafia and 1 alien, I thought? 1 three-use item thief, 1 secretary, 1 mp, 1 MiB, 1 gunman
The 3x means there's three uses of one guy or three guys?

I wouldn't have thought the game unbalanced if there had been three guys, but I still spend a shameful lot of time playing, like, Town of Salem all/any where standard town play is to hope the 500 evils kill each other.
Town of Salem all any is hilarious (6 arso game ftw) but not relatable to this situation

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#1818 Post by ghug » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:28 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:25 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:24 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:18 pm


So then we vote her out and the deputy gets their result
You shouldn't be voting people out if you think they're town.
But the logical conclusion of this is that we should vote her out as to have the deputy scan be more useful.
I want to vote her out because I scumread her. It would also shed a lot of light on D1.

We don't know that the deputy's going to scan her just because she asked, and even if we were sure, wasting a daykill and one of the deputy's scans to confirm the deputy's sanity is not a good idea. Vote for scum.

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#1819 Post by jasnah » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:28 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:27 pm
jasnah wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:23 pm


We have 5 mafia and 1 alien, I thought? 1 three-use item thief, 1 secretary, 1 mp, 1 MiB, 1 gunman
The 3x means there's three uses of one guy or three guys?

I wouldn't have thought the game unbalanced if there had been three guys, but I still spend a shameful lot of time playing, like, Town of Salem all/any where standard town play is to hope the 500 evils kill each other.
Town of Salem all any is hilarious (6 arso game ftw) but not relatable to this situation
I'm literally talking about game balance and my perspective of it, nobody's saying it's the same fucking game or elsewhere in any way relatable dude..

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#1820 Post by jasnah » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:30 pm

@ ghug

Who do you think are my most likely scum partner? If/when I flip town, how would you reevaluate or not your conception of the scum team?

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