Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

I think you've got angry at the 'wrong' things, mostly. You've let a lot of stuff slide that I don't expect you to normally allow, and for a long time you seemed far too focused on defending yourself from people you were openly recognising as joke-voting you without seeming to actually try digging into finding scum. The fact that as soon as the attention wasn't on you you then slipped into the exact shitposting you'd been decrying just a few pages earlier also made you feel way less genuine.

Should've let him continue missing that

Sigh. Ok well this is a semi-explanation but it's all meta, isn't it? Nothing concrete. And I'm afraid you're wrong. I'm not "letting stuff slide", I've been trying to remain calm. Some of you have made that increasingly difficult as the phase has gone on.

[jasnah]

Who in the HR/bona/tham group do you think is doing the saving?

No way HR or Bona would save me, not a fucking chance, both of those would decide it was more fun to bus me 10 times out of 10 and be laughing all the way to my early grave right now. I don't have the faintest idea how thamrick plays and I doubt even an enthusiastic scum would be able to fabricate evidence linking us as a team

Did you miss the part of last game where I quite literally sacrificed my entire game to try and save a teammate? What makes you think I would instead be hardbussing you?

Celaph seems to me a likeable person, which would be the obvious difference between me and them

[Hellenic Riot]

Should've let him continue missing that

Sigh. Ok well this is a semi-explanation but it's all meta, isn't it? Nothing concrete. And I'm afraid you're wrong. I'm not "letting stuff slide", I've been trying to remain calm. Some of you have made that increasingly difficult as the phase has gone on.

Perhaps, but I view you as the person who jumps on little things and nitpicks the hell out of them (sometimes correctly and sometimes not) until someone breaks, and instead I think you've broad-brushed the entire game and avoiding going after any particular individual with any real strength.

[Jamiet99uk]

So many people are just not around as EoD approaches. Chaqa, Worcej, Kgray...

[ND]

Vote Count
Chaqa (8): Jamiet99uk, jasnah, Vecna, Ifischl, brainbomb, celaph, thamrick, ghug
Jamiet99uk(7): Macca573, BobMcBob, Maniac, worcej, BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, Bonatogether
Jasnah (4): Chaqa, damo666, Foxcastle, Emc42

Still need to vote (2): kgray, rdrivera2005
Currently Chaqa is set to be removed
20 minutes remain in the phase

[Jamiet99uk]

Should've let him continue missing that

Sigh. Ok well this is a semi-explanation but it's all meta, isn't it? Nothing concrete. And I'm afraid you're wrong. I'm not "letting stuff slide", I've been trying to remain calm. Some of you have made that increasingly difficult as the phase has gone on.

Perhaps, but I view you as the person who jumps on little things and nitpicks the hell out of them (sometimes correctly and sometimes not) until someone breaks, and instead I think you've broad-brushed the entire game and avoiding going after any particular individual with any real strength.

There was such an insane volume of white noise from Bob and Bona and a few others that it was honestly difficult to do that in the first 24 hours and today I was busier.

[BunnyGo]

I want to hear from worcej and Bunny go before the end of day. Bunny go despite his earlier characterization of the Jamiet wagon in withering terms ('because he was insufficiently angry') is still on Jamie, why?

If anyone's getting saved, it's Chaqa. Super strong opinions against Jamiet as soon as Chaqa went into the lead. 0/10 takes by brain bomb. Maybe 0.5/10 with 0.5 credit for bringing up the possibility of a save.

I very much disliked your wagon. And while I disagree with chaqas tendencies to play like this, I’ve given up trying to stop them and instead just ignore and deal with after a day or two.
Meanwhile Jamie opened the day pushing a “FIND THE ALIEN AT ALL COSTS” and continues advocating for strongly anti town play just in case kgray was the alien and chooses to help us.

Brain and now Ghug get scum points for this too.

[Jamiet99uk]

I want to hear from worcej and Bunny go before the end of day. Bunny go despite his earlier characterization of the Jamiet wagon in withering terms ('because he was insufficiently angry') is still on Jamie, why?

If anyone's getting saved, it's Chaqa. Super strong opinions against Jamiet as soon as Chaqa went into the lead. 0/10 takes by brain bomb. Maybe 0.5/10 with 0.5 credit for bringing up the possibility of a save.

I very much disliked your wagon. And while I disagree with chaqas tendencies to play like this, I’ve given up trying to stop them and instead just ignore and deal with after a day or two.
Meanwhile Jamie opened the day pushing a “FIND THE ALIEN AT ALL COSTS” and continues advocating for strongly anti town play just in case kgray was the alien and chooses to help us.

Brain and now Ghug get scum points for this too.

What anti-town play am I "strongly advocating" for at this point, please?

[Hellenic Riot]

No way HR or Bona would save me, not a fucking chance, both of those would decide it was more fun to bus me 10 times out of 10 and be laughing all the way to my early grave right now. I don't have the faintest idea how thamrick plays and I doubt even an enthusiastic scum would be able to fabricate evidence linking us as a team

Did you miss the part of last game where I quite literally sacrificed my entire game to try and save a teammate? What makes you think I would instead be hardbussing you?

Celaph seems to me a likeable person, which would be the obvious difference between me and them

He's yet to hand me any centres in our Diplomacy game, so I have to express my doubts on his niceness

Also, I tried to save him because he was the most useful role on our team and without him we had no hope of victory. I always try and do what is mechanically optimal as scum, and feelings have very little effect on that.

[brainbomb]

So many people are just not around as EoD approaches. Chaqa, Worcej, Kgray...

chaqa and kgray arent voting you though

[ghug]

I want to hear from worcej and Bunny go before the end of day. Bunny go despite his earlier characterization of the Jamiet wagon in withering terms ('because he was insufficiently angry') is still on Jamie, why?

If anyone's getting saved, it's Chaqa. Super strong opinions against Jamiet as soon as Chaqa went into the lead. 0/10 takes by brain bomb. Maybe 0.5/10 with 0.5 credit for bringing up the possibility of a save.

I very much disliked your wagon. And while I disagree with chaqas tendencies to play like this, I’ve given up trying to stop them and instead just ignore and deal with after a day or two.
Meanwhile Jamie opened the day pushing a “FIND THE ALIEN AT ALL COSTS” and continues advocating for strongly anti town play just in case kgray was the alien and chooses to help us.

Brain and now Ghug get scum points for this too.

That play isn't only good if she's the alien, it's also good if she's town, because we learn her role.

[e.m.c^42]

Anything important I missed?

[brainbomb]

Did you miss the part of last game where I quite literally sacrificed my entire game to try and save a teammate? What makes you think I would instead be hardbussing you?

Celaph seems to me a likeable person, which would be the obvious difference between me and them

He's yet to hand me any centres in our Diplomacy game, so I have to express my doubts on his niceness

Also, I tried to save him because he was the most useful role on our team and without him we had no hope of victory. I always try and do what is mechanically optimal as scum, and feelings have very little effect on that.

I always just try to cause random chaos and lose as badly as possible

[Hellenic Riot]

Sigh. Ok well this is a semi-explanation but it's all meta, isn't it? Nothing concrete. And I'm afraid you're wrong. I'm not "letting stuff slide", I've been trying to remain calm. Some of you have made that increasingly difficult as the phase has gone on.

Perhaps, but I view you as the person who jumps on little things and nitpicks the hell out of them (sometimes correctly and sometimes not) until someone breaks, and instead I think you've broad-brushed the entire game and avoiding going after any particular individual with any real strength.

There was such an insane volume of white noise from Bob and Bona and a few others that it was honestly difficult to do that in the first 24 hours and today I was busier.

And yet you've continued to let people like Macca basically get away with their terrible voting reasons and haven't really attacked *anyone* specifically for voting you despite repeatedly decrying their lack of reasoning

[worcej]

@ Worcej: You said your vote for me was a joke vote. Who do you actually scumread? Please will you move your vote off me, thanks.

@ Bona: Do you actually scumread me or are you just trying to cause ties?

Back from shot. Stings like a bizz...

Anyways, in order of scuminess I'd say it's you > jasnah >>> Chaqa. My vote was a joke, but how you've responded has been not good enough to make we want to jump to jasnah.

Chaqa's wagon is alarming to me...

[brainbomb]

alarming?

[Jamiet99uk]

So many people are just not around as EoD approaches. Chaqa, Worcej, Kgray...

chaqa and kgray arent voting you though

I didn't say they were?

[ghug]

@ Worcej: You said your vote for me was a joke vote. Who do you actually scumread? Please will you move your vote off me, thanks.

@ Bona: Do you actually scumread me or are you just trying to cause ties?

Back from shot. Stings like a bizz...

Anyways, in order of scuminess I'd say it's you > jasnah >>> Chaqa. My vote was a joke, but how you've responded has been not good enough to make we want to jump to jasnah.

Chaqa's wagon is alarming to me...

Why is it alarming?

[brainbomb]

Dead or replaced players
bozotheclown died Day 1 - He was not in the game. Sorry bozo!


wtf lol

[Jamiet99uk]

And yet you've continued to let people like Macca basically get away with their terrible voting reasons and haven't really attacked *anyone* specifically for voting you despite repeatedly decrying their lack of reasoning

What? This is patently false. I repeatedly asked Macca to explain properly, and I said Macca's reason for voting me was shit.

You're just wrong about that.