Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

Why are you, Kgray, trying to diminsh my case by implying there were lots of other naked votes? Because I don't think there were.

lfischl followed you onto Durga with a naked vote. I haven't checked the bot to look for others.

Incorrect. Ifischl quoted my post about Durga's bad attitude and doing nothing to help town, so that wasn't a naked vote.

Whatever. Your entire case is still based on the LIE that I didn't question damo.

I will no longer be engaging with this. Happy to talk about anything new you want to discuss, though.

[kgray]

Do you think Vecna, Durga and I are all scum together?

No, but I think it's entirely likely there are two scum in the pool of 5.

I think it could be celaph. Can you please look at his scumread/retraction on you, like I asked earlier?

[Jamiet99uk]

Do you think Vecna, Durga and I are all scum together?

No, but I think it's entirely likely there are two scum in the pool of 5.

I think it could be celaph. Can you please look at his scumread/retraction on you, like I asked earlier?

Yes. I need to take a comprehensive look at Celaph.

[lfischl]

Do you think Vecna, Durga and I are all scum together?

No, but I think it's entirely likely there are two scum in the pool of 5.

do you think all 3 could be in there.

[Bonatogether]

Do you think Vecna, Durga and I are all scum together?

No, but I think it's entirely likely there are two scum in the pool of 5.

do you think all 3 could be in there.

No

[Vecna]

Jamiet, I know my scumreads at times arent the best, but my townreads are generally pretty stellar once im convinced, yes?

Kgray is town.

And her earlier statement that she doesnt do charges onto town as scum is completely accurate as well. In her games as scum she stuck with general sentiment quite well when voting townies, and only lead charges on her teammates (see, summit in that one game, and later Chaqa).

[lfischl]

No, but I think it's entirely likely there are two scum in the pool of 5.

do you think all 3 could be in there.

No

I wasn't asking you but why?

[Bonatogether]

do you think all 3 could be in there.

No

I wasn't asking you but why?

Scum don't group that brazenly

[Jamiet99uk]

Do you think Vecna, Durga and I are all scum together?

No, but I think it's entirely likely there are two scum in the pool of 5.

do you think all 3 could be in there.

It's possible, I can't predict how likely that is though.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, I know my scumreads at times arent the best, but my townreads are generally pretty stellar once im convinced, yes?

Kgray is town.

And her earlier statement that she doesnt do charges onto town as scum is completely accurate as well. In her games as scum she stuck with general sentiment quite well when voting townies, and only lead charges on her teammates (see, summit in that one game, and later Chaqa).

How many times has Kgray been scum? Is it more than once?

Do people not change over time, or does the passage of history stand eternally still for you in this game, as it does in your wardrobe?

[Jamiet99uk]

I have a hypnotherapy appointment at 17:20 and after that I will take a walk before it gets completely dark.

When I return, my mind refreshed, I shall re-read Celaph.

For now there's apparently no traction on Kgray so I will ##Vote Durga, who has not kept her promise to read the game and help town.

[lfischl]

##vote Durga

Please do something.

[dargorygel]

@celaph
On page 23 you changed from avid anti-jamie to a jamiefan. Would you explain that thought process? Thanks

[dargorygel]

also @celaph
What went wrong in the room's (and yours) analysis of damo?

[dargorygel]

(BOT announcement: the bot fixed itself. We do not yet know why it was acting batty. I'll try to watch closely, and record some data points IF it does it again tonight.)

[dargorygel]

I do not usually pay attention to 'who is online' as a game element. But I did just find it odd that celaph was on, and has a number of people saying are displaying that we are looking at him... but he did not take time to answer or comment. Maybe he is madly busy. But nonetheless... as a counter wagon... and because I could either join a counter wagon on him or bona...
##VOTE CELAPH

[rdrivera2005]

kgray and durga are looking a wee bit better.
My list is changing.

If kgray and durga can wait... bona is now next for me. Mostly due to the vecna/bona exchange. Which is interesting because vecna is ALSO on the list, eh? Might the bona/vecna thing be s v s?

Here is my present list
durga>kgray>bona>cel>vecna

So I should do this
##VOTE DURGA

There is no basis for claiming that my conversation with Vecna was S v S. Have you checked any of my interactions with Bob or Macca last game? None of them resemble anything this game.

I expect you to be smart enought to not play two games in a row as scum in the same way. This is pure WIFOM.

[rdrivera2005]

Kgray and Durga look better to me... not yet better enough to move them down, although the order of them has solidified. "They can wait" meant that in my thoughts, I can get back to them later. So I was trying to clarify the rest of my list. I mention the potential of you and bona being S v S, not because that was a WOW NOW I AM CONVINCED thing... but that it might be a thing. You have seemed more townie overnight so I moved you to the bottom of the list.

Ok, thanks. Im pretty sure still that youre town, but theres not enough scum suspects in this game unless the scumteam is literally durga/bozo/celaph

Need to find new people to be suspicious of.

Wadda you think of rdr? Well, as a scum... I do not care what you think of him personally.
Meta wise, over time rdr has had man many scummetashifts. He has not stood out this game with any profound utterances... has not said anything scum-smelling. But, after our pool is emptied... he might be worth considering. Or am I forgetting some shocking obviously town thing he said?

I am 100% guaranteed town © so you don´t have to worry with me.

[Bonatogether]

There is no basis for claiming that my conversation with Vecna was S v S. Have you checked any of my interactions with Bob or Macca last game? None of them resemble anything this game.

I expect you to be smart enought to not play two games in a row as scum in the same way. This is pure WIFOM.

If people could change their play that easily, meta reads wouldn't work

[rdrivera2005]

So let me address Kgray asking me "Why are you not questioning other people's naked votes?"

The only other naked votes on D1 that I can remember were:

- Vecna voting for me, which he did justify before and after.

- Brainbomb voting for Bozo. This happened after I went offline for the evening. Brainbomb is now dead and was town.

So there's your answer.

Why are you, Kgray, trying to diminsh my case by implying there were lots of other naked votes? Because I don't think there were.

You can´t remember Vecna and Bona naked votes on Damo? Interesting.