Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

feeling good about
darg
jamie

feeling alright about
vecna
kgray<~
rivera<~

feeling unsettled by
damo
bona (lack of posts)
bozo

feeling indifferent about
celaph
everyone else


##vote bozo

[kgray]

and youre doing a marvelous job

lol did I misread that?

are you trying to pocket me again?

No, but it's comforting to be in the familiar position of misunderstanding your D1 jokes.

I am a little skeptical of you having a good first impression of me, though. I feel like normally it takes you a while to townread me.

[kgray]

feeling good about
darg
jamie

feeling alright about
vecna
kgray<~
rivera<~

feeling unsettled by
damo
bona (lack of posts)
bozo

feeling indifferent about
celaph
everyone else


##vote bozo

What is unsettling about damo? Why does celaph get a shoutout?

[Vecna]

I welcome all skepticism and suspicion

[kgray]

I welcome all skepticism and suspicion

Normally you're sad when I scumread you.

[Vecna]

Theres a difference between you actually scumreading me and the thing youre doing now. Youre just trying to get me to reveal more information about how I actually read you.

[brainbomb]

feeling good about
darg
jamie

feeling alright about
vecna
kgray<~
rivera<~

feeling unsettled by
damo
bona (lack of posts)
bozo

feeling indifferent about
celaph
everyone else


##vote bozo

What is unsettling about damo? Why does celaph get a shoutout?

damo suggestion to question asker seems too helpful to me.

[kgray]

Theres a difference between you actually scumreading me and the thing youre doing now. Youre just trying to get me to reveal more information about how I actually read you.

I do really want to know haha

[Vecna]

maybe ill give away more subtle hints next time you do something alignment indicative

[kgray]

feeling good about
darg
jamie

feeling alright about
vecna
kgray<~
rivera<~

feeling unsettled by
damo
bona (lack of posts)
bozo

feeling indifferent about
celaph
everyone else


##vote bozo

What is unsettling about damo? Why does celaph get a shoutout?

damo suggestion to question asker seems too helpful to me.

You think it's unlike town!damo to suggest something like that? And it's more weird to you than Jamie saying he was glad we weren't talking about mechanics, and then spending a few pages talking about question-asker suggestions?

Why don't you want to talk about celaph?

[brainbomb]

there is a difference between being helpful to genuinely be helpful; and making a role use suggestion that people would assume never comes from scum

[Vecna]

Why did you never apply that logic to Darg?

[brainbomb]

What is unsettling about damo? Why does celaph get a shoutout?

damo suggestion to question asker seems too helpful to me.

You think it's unlike town!damo to suggest something like that? And it's more weird to you than Jamie saying he was glad we weren't talking about mechanics, and then spending a few pages talking about question-asker suggestions?

Why don't you want to talk about celaph?

celaphs post about being an alien was rather endearing and I felt like it was not forced. didnt advance the game mind you; but it was unscummy

[damo666]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

your third teammate I guess

[Vecna]

Your top townread Darg did the same exact thing, and he skirted away with the question-suggestion thing so easily.

You dont think Darg does that to appear to be the oh so helpful towny?

[brainbomb]

Why did you never apply that logic to Darg?

darg is present and not scummy. asking questions and its still fun darg where he isnt 50 pages behind and overwhelmingly scumread

[Vecna]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

your third teammate I guess

[damo666]

im now imagining rdrivera curling on a beach

Curling on a beach wouldn't work

[bozotheclown]

I think the Question Asker should consider a question in the vein of what Damo has suggested, actually.

Making statements like Dargorygel is suggesting adds no value since the Question Asker is not a Lie Detector; it doesn't require any given player to have made a statement which can be verified / falsified. The question "Is Dargorygel Mafia" would return a clear yes/no result even if you, Dargorygel, had not posted at all.

hmmm.... that's probably true. My question is TOO simple.

The problem with using it as a one-shot Cop is that it gives you a 50/50 trade of a Town PR for either a single Scum Guilty or Town Clear, and nothing more.

Damo's proposed question could provide the following results, among others:

1. In the best possible outcome, it could provide three townclears, which in a game of this size would be very powerful indeed for Town

2. Or, if the answer is "yes" that there is at least one scum in the given pool of three, this means that Scum effectively cannot kill the 1 or 2 townies in that pool, because if they do so, they will out their team-mate.

I agree damo's suggestion is better than using the Asker as a cop.

Another possibility is to divide the 12 remaining players into 2 groups of 6, and ask "are there more scum in group 1 than group 2". This could solve the game late in the game when 1 or 2 scum have been found and we are down to a few players. For instance, if we found 1 scum in the group with less scum, all remaining players in that group would be cleared.

[kgray]

damo suggestion to question asker seems too helpful to me.

You think it's unlike town!damo to suggest something like that? And it's more weird to you than Jamie saying he was glad we weren't talking about mechanics, and then spending a few pages talking about question-asker suggestions?

Why don't you want to talk about celaph?

celaphs post about being an alien was rather endearing and I felt like it was not forced. didnt advance the game mind you; but it was unscummy

Cant' argue with that, everything celaph says is endearing.