MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

someone post that up to date claimthing

need to puck a target ib case i survive the night

I'll post a summary in a while (hour or so).

[BunnyGo]

someone post that up to date claimthing

need to puck a target ib case i survive the night

May as well target me. Helps with my claim that I was shot at night 3.

[BunnyGo]

I think Damo can be mech cleared of everything except the mafia tracker.

He was willing to declare the parrot was extant. And to do this he’d need 2 results. He’d be too scared to do this UNLESS the parrot specifically targeted him that night.

I guess the other option is he was a mafia member sent to kill, AND there’s a mafia doctor who targeted him in case the parrot targeted him. And he got alerted he was saved. But that would still be hard to be sure it wasn’t a SK targeting him.

[damo666]

CLEARS

Brain Mason
DemonRHK Mason
rdr Cleared by Masons

NEAR CLEARS
damo Vanilla Cop - no reveals refuted, exposed psycho

CLEARISH
Vecna Cop - no claims refuted but no other supporting evidence
ghug - claims vt, confirmed vanilla by me, [and non Maf by celaph], undisputed N1 RB claim

Probably Town but might just be Mafia

Bona - claims vt, confirmed vanilla by me, Day 1 voting

Scanned non Maf by Vecna

EMC

Non Maf scans by celaph

Jasnah
Maniac claims town commuter (confirmed non Vanilla by me)

Claims with no further evidence

Bob claims town PR
Bunny claims town PR
Donny claims Town Lover
Ezio claims town PR
HamB claims holds or discarded town PR

[Hamilton Brian]

I think Damo can be mech cleared of everything except the mafia tracker.

Is that based on Damo's own words and/or comparing their actions to the roles?

And are you suggesting Vecna use their role on you tonight? (damn it, I have a hard time inferring with posts).

[Hamilton Brian]

CLEARS

Brain Mason
DemonRHK Mason
rdr Cleared by Masons

NEAR CLEARS
damo Vanilla Cop - no reveals refuted, exposed psycho

CLEARISH
Vecna Cop - no claims refuted but no other supporting evidence
ghug - claims vt, confirmed vanilla by me, [and non Maf by celaph], undisputed N1 RB claim

Probably Town but might just be Mafia

Bona - claims vt, confirmed vanilla by me, Day 1 voting

Scanned non Maf by Vecna

EMC

Non Maf scans by celaph

Jasnah
Maniac claims town commuter (confirmed non Vanilla by me)

Claims with no further evidence

Bob claims town PR
Bunny claims town PR
Donny claims Town Lover
Ezio claims town PR
HamB claims holds or discarded town PR

Thanks Damo. Invaluable.

[Hamilton Brian]

I will also add that I received two town PR roles. I obviously discarded one.

I am deathly afraid about revealing anymore.

[Hamilton Brian]

What amount of certainty do we have with Celaph's scans? WOuld there be an alien motivation to lie? I imagine so; their aim in the game is eliminating all non-alien factions.

Maybe take the alien reads with a grain of salt?

[damo666]

I will also add that I received two town PR roles. I obviously discarded one.

I am deathly afraid about revealing anymore.

Don't

[damo666]

What amount of certainty do we have with Celaph's scans? WOuld there be an alien motivation to lie? I imagine so; their aim in the game is eliminating all non-alien factions.

Maybe take the alien reads with a grain of salt?

Jasnah and/or Maniac could be alien if celaph covering.

The only alien role ghug could be is sypmathiser.

[damo666]

BY guess for outstanding Mafia is Bob

[damo666]

BY guess for outstanding Mafia is Bob

*my

[BunnyGo]

I think Damo can be mech cleared of everything except the mafia tracker.

Is that based on Damo's own words and/or comparing their actions to the roles?

And are you suggesting Vecna use their role on you tonight? (damn it, I have a hard time inferring with posts).

This is based on Damos own words from day 3 where he said “I need time to figure out my results” and “the psycho is definitely in play”. This was because he was targeted by the parrot night 2. He claimed that later (but was inferable from his posts). So he’d have to have known he was targeted by parrot on night 2.

[BunnyGo]

I think Damo can be mech cleared of everything except the mafia tracker.

Is that based on Damo's own words and/or comparing their actions to the roles?

And are you suggesting Vecna use their role on you tonight? (damn it, I have a hard time inferring with posts).

This is based on Damos own words from day 3 where he said “I need time to figure out my results” and “the psycho is definitely in play”. This was because he was targeted by the parrot night 2. He claimed that later (but was inferable from his posts). So he’d have to have known he was targeted by parrot on night 2.

If Vecna wants to clear me of being mafia, that’s fine.

If people don’t need it, that’s fine too.

[BunnyGo]

What amount of certainty do we have with Celaph's scans? WOuld there be an alien motivation to lie? I imagine so; their aim in the game is eliminating all non-alien factions.

Maybe take the alien reads with a grain of salt?

Yes. Aliens need mafia to kill town.

[jasnah]

@ damo Maniac and I are scanned by Vecna, not celaph

[jasnah]

CLEARS


Brain Mason
DemonRHK Mason
rdr Cleared by Masons

NEAR CLEARS


damo Vanilla Cop - no reveals refuted, exposed psycho

CLEARISH


Vecna Cop - no claims refuted but no other supporting evidence
ghug - claims vt, confirmed vanilla by me, [and non Maf by celaph], undisputed N1 RB claim

Probably Town but might just be Mafia


Bona - claims vt, confirmed vanilla by me, Day 1 voting


Scanned non Maf by Vecna

EMC
Jasnah
Maniac claims town commuter (confirmed non Vanilla by me)

Scanned non maf by celaph

Ezio - claims town PR

Claims with no further evidence


Bob claims town PR
Bunny claims town PR
Donny claims Town Lover
HamB claims holds or discarded town doctor

[jasnah]

Also, the masons are not 100% on everything having already gotten some medium to big things wrong, so I'm not saying we need to start a wagon on rdrivera, but the independent-minded town among us would do well to remember bb's own caveat that he's a "99.99%" not a sure thing.

[jasnah]

What amount of certainty do we have with Celaph's scans? WOuld there be an alien motivation to lie? I imagine so; their aim in the game is eliminating all non-alien factions.

Maybe take the alien reads with a grain of salt?

Jasnah and/or Maniac could be alien if celaph covering.

The only alien role ghug could be is sypmathiser.

Damo, I think you should scan me

[Maniac]

@Damo - an independent observer would put me clearer than Ghug.

Ghug is cleared of Mafia by a known scum
Maniac is cleared of Mafia by assumed town PR
Ghug can still be the SK
Maniac can not be SK unless Damo is lying
Ghug can be alien set up early to run deep
Maniac’a VCA before Celaph was exposed should speak for itself. Yes I could have been busing such a high value role in a game where bussing doesn’t gain any town cred because their are 3/4 factions.

I know this isn’t important yet as there are better daykills than me or Ghug, but I need to ensure those town clears understand the range of possibilities for people like Ghug.