MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

can everyone state who they plan to go after next once celaph is dead?

Ezio

[kgray]

Here

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/4dcUgr9BJSLwP

HR died early but scroll down to see how much more open he is to opinions as a scum partner

Yeah I see what you're saying, but he was also obviously trying to optimize their mechanics in that game. Maybe he wouldn't have gone full-tyrant on his team here but I really doubt he just lets them do something as (imo) silly as use their only kill N1. And I think that bona and Donny, specifically, are unlikely to fight him on that.

[damo666]

I have not noticed a Roleblock claim

The lack of such a claim would indicate one of the following:

either Macca is alien

or

Alien probe targeted one of the very few Mafia who are not claiming in order to get Macca daykilled.

I suspect the former

Then who did aliens probe N2?

Macca as he claimed or held if Macca is alien.

[kgray]

I have not noticed a Roleblock claim

The lack of such a claim would indicate one of the following:

either Macca is alien

or

Alien probe targeted one of the very few Mafia who are not claiming in order to get Macca daykilled.

I suspect the former

Then who did aliens probe N2?

Macca as he claimed or held if Macca is alien.

If Macca is an alien, why didn't they just pick somebody else and actually probe that person? Why pretend it was Macca?

[damo666]

I get the sense there is no point beating around the bush. I hard claim town one-shot governor.

As to why I did not claim earlier. D1 I tried to last minute self-target learning that I couldn't with only enough time for what I did. I'm frankly still surprised that I survived that day. D2 I just honestly didn't think I was going to be DK'd with HR doing whatever he was doing.

This is hard to believe. Having to choose a discard you would carefully read the 2 roles. How would you not know you couldn't self target.

Celaph is as guilty as sin.

##end

Didn't he claim to discard goon? I don't know, seems plausible he just wanted town PR over goon and wouldn't had to have read it that closely...

Possible I guess but I'm still leaving my vote there

[brainbomb]

Here are three key facts you are ignoring which illustrate the aliens were obsessed with catching an sk N1.

•The ghug roleblock after a day phase where ghug talked at length about how he would play as sk
•the bozo nk where he concludes the setup may be 5 v 1 with an sk
•the fact HR himself clings to the notion there may be a holstering sk during D2

[ghug]

Regarding mass claim I would support a vanilla/non vanilla mass claim.

I hard claim non vanilla lol.

I think if we're doing this, we should just mass claim entirely.

[ghug]

Okay, here is my theory for the most likely set of night actions up to this point.

N1:
Mafia NK bozo
Aliens do not kill
Prober RB's ghug
Doctors save various targets
Damo (vanilla cop) scans celaph iirc

N2:
Mafia NK damo
Aliens do not kill
Prober RB's Macca
Doctor saves damo
Other doctor saves incorrectly
Parrot parrots damo
Damo scans maniac??? I seem to remember seeing that but can't be bothered searching with no bot. Maybe that was N3 I can't remember

N3:
Mafia NK someone
Doctor saves NK target (I don't recall seeing someone claim saved)
Other doctor saves damo
Rdrivera does something, it is not a kill, it is an action that returns two results to rdr I believe
Parrot parrots rdr
Damo scans someone (I believe this is unknown)
Aliens do not kill
Prober holds RB or uses it on someone who has for some reason decided not to claim/has forgotten/has not had the opportunity

I am not sure whether or not the second doctor exists, I seem to recall someone saying it was likely but I can't remember where. It is not a necessary part of this theory. SK likely does not exist but may be holstering. At this point I'm thinking something like a 75% chance SK is not in play. Damo is town. Macca is not alien under this theory. Rdr is likely town if my memory hasn't failed me. Last night's RB was likely a somewhat inactive player if there was one. It is entirely possible that last night's roleblock was performed on the mafia killer.

Alternate N3:
Mafia NK someone
Prober RB's the mafia carrying out the kill
Doc saves are irrelevant
Everything else remains the same

This would explain why there is no docsave or RB claim yet (from memory)

If I've missed or misremembered something or you disagree with an assumption or my logic, feel free to point it out, this is meant to be a theory of the most likely events.

Why did you assume my theory of two doctors as fact and then ignore the part of it that actually necessitates there being two doctors?

[ghug]

Interesting.

Would I do well to start with regular bread or a sourdough starter. I want to graduate to breads, I'm just working with desserts so far in my lockdown quest to be able to bake.

Flatbreads are easy, fast, "rustic", and satisfying. Paul Hollywood has great technique and doesn't make it "mystical". It's bread.

If you have a scale, weights are much easier. If you don't use google to convert.
500 g bread flour
11 g salt
13 g yeast
320-330 g water
olives
cilantro
onion
cumin
(pack the filling)

This is my go to "oh shit, what's for dinner in 2 hours while also needing to clean?"

His recipe on Bake Off for ciabatta just is easy (if you have netflix, its there under the masterclass episodes).

I agree with ghug though. I've only once made a bread that was inedible. Otherwise, it's never perfect, I find making it beautiful difficult to do, but I get to slowly tweak and make it my own. And ghug's response reminded me I had crackers in the oven and no timer. Thanks ghug!

Seven pages behind but this speaks to my heart. I've been baking bread in these stupid tiny pans. I get two tiny loaves instead of a longer store loaf. Anyway, I was buying local bread the other day...you know, the wide, round loaf. And I think, "WTF can't I just throw the dough on a baking sheet and let it come out how it comes out." So I am going to try that this weekend.

Often I will use spent grains from my beer-making in the doughs and for dog treats.

If you have a large Dutch oven, I'd suggest that instead of a baking sheet (ideally preheated). Traps the moisture better than a big oven.

[ghug]

im over here bustin my ass to find quotes and string together an idea of what kills came from where and I cant even get a dialogue about it but we can talk about yeast and proper baking theory

Brain it makes no sense. I'm sorry.

[brainbomb]

im over here bustin my ass to find quotes and string together an idea of what kills came from where and I cant even get a dialogue about it but we can talk about yeast and proper baking theory

Brain it makes no sense. I'm sorry.

donny and bona being aliens with HR based on the content or that the aliens used a nk?

How are these points so easily dismissed. its like you lack any radar at all

[kgray]

Here are three key facts you are ignoring which illustrate the aliens were obsessed with catching an sk N1.

•The ghug roleblock after a day phase where ghug talked at length about how he would play as sk
•the bozo nk where he concludes the setup may be 5 v 1 with an sk
•the fact HR himself clings to the notion there may be a holstering sk during D2

I'm not ignoring this, I just don't think the most likely scenario is that the aliens used their kill N1... Even if they're hunting the SK why would they shoot so early?

[ghug]

Lol why has nobody pointed out that celaph claimed a role with an exact mafia equivalent?

[brainbomb]

I hate the fact that youre so selfish in mafia that you refuse to give anyone any credit for anything, and when people try their heart out you just shit all over it with one sentence. I swear you just wanna play the game your way by yourself in your little corner and mock anyone else who might be right.

[brainbomb]

frankly fuck that

[rdrivera2005]

I get the sense there is no point beating around the bush. I hard claim town one-shot governor.

As to why I did not claim earlier. D1 I tried to last minute self-target learning that I couldn't with only enough time for what I did. I'm frankly still surprised that I survived that day. D2 I just honestly didn't think I was going to be DK'd with HR doing whatever he was doing.

This is hard to believe. Having to choose a discard you would carefully read the 2 roles. How would you not know you couldn't self target.

Celaph is as guilty as sin.

##end

Didn't he claim to discard goon? I don't know, seems plausible he just wanted town PR over goon and wouldn't had to have read it that closely...

If Celaph flips town I will start to suspect Kgray for this incredible amount of defense on him.

[Donny Dude]

##vote celaph
Rdr, I have to agree with your point since it began at night 2 I feel after the tie.
I also think this could be scum defending another scum.

[kgray]

This is hard to believe. Having to choose a discard you would carefully read the 2 roles. How would you not know you couldn't self target.

Celaph is as guilty as sin.

##end

Didn't he claim to discard goon? I don't know, seems plausible he just wanted town PR over goon and wouldn't had to have read it that closely...

If Celaph flips town I will start to suspect Kgray for this incredible amount of defense on him.

lol no you won't

[kgray]

##vote celaph
Rdr, I have to agree with your point since it began at night 2 I feel after the tie.
I also think this could be scum defending another scum.

You think I'm scum with celaph? Are we maf or aliens?

[Bonatogether]

##vote celaph
Rdr, I have to agree with your point since it began at night 2 I feel after the tie.
I also think this could be scum defending another scum.

You think I'm scum with celaph? Are we maf or aliens?

scum is scum